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Rodimus Prime

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After playing with my iPod touch and my bothers iPhone it got me thinking about some of the huge flaws in the current OS that I think apple really needs to address in the OS to make it better for more business orientated and well work on that side better. Hell some of the things it lacks are down right embarassing and even not with over 2.5 years after the iphone was released it still has items that should of been there on day one of the release.

1. A Spellchecker-- I do not get why apple did not include a spell checker in the OS. One that simplely puts a red line or a line under misspelled words. Well have make typos and some times we just do not know the correct spelling of a word but can get pretty close. The spell checker either corrects it for us or confirms that we have it spelled correctly. I know for a fact blackberries have it and I know of a few dumb phones that have a built in spell checker for SMS. Apple still lacks this very BASIC feature. If you are writing a professional email of any type it should not contain misspelled words and many people have replayed to an email on their phones. They normally are not long emails but may be a few lines but they should not contain a misspelled word.

2. Notifications system -- Apple currenty way of informing you notifications on the phone is a joke and you can not get any information off the lock screen. THis needs to be greatly improved. Having SMS, Voicemail, and email count alone would be nice. Also allow other apps to put something there so at a quick glance with out unlocking the phone we can get that infomation. Also it would be nice to do it off any screen that you have access to your icons along the top row. Very basic and it would be easy to include something in the setting that would allow the OS to override each app because some apps we would want to allow this and others that would be block. RIM did a good job on the control side look to them. On the OS level setting each app can be overriden and block from putting up notifications. Now apple could make this a lot easier to do that on RIM but the controls would need to be there to prevent app makers from going hog wild and not putting the option in the apps.

3. Profiles-- Apple really needs to have profile setting. Like allow the person to have an office setting which would have the ringtone volume turned down or even allow the user to have a different ring tone for the office because some of our favorite ring tones are very embarrassing to go off in an office. Having "My Humps" start playing in an office is just not a good idea. Now a basic ringer can work.


Now I know others might have something to ad to this list but I am trying to stay away from hardware things that could be done and those are much more debatable. The iPhone is a great consumer Smart Phone but I think it falls short on the business side and some minor additions would really add a lot to the business users and take way nothing to it wouuld add a lot of the consumer side.

Apple did a lot of speed up some changes to the smart phone industry I think there is just some areas the iPhone is really lacking and could use some bigger changes. One thing I know about the blackberry is when you really dig into it is is geared very well for the business user in mind with it puts a lot of information available at a glance and then the controls to limited what is put there to avoid overload and customizing to what the user wants. This includes all the way down to the little LED flashing to tell the user when a message has arrival
 
After playing with my iPod touch and my bothers iPhone it got me thinking about some of the huge flaws in the current OS that I think apple really needs to address in the OS to make it better for more business orientated and well work on that side better. Hell some of the things it lacks are down right embarassing and even not with over 2.5 years after the iphone was released it still has items that should of been there on day one of the release.

1. A Spellchecker-- I do not get why apple did not include a spell checker in the OS. One that simplely puts a red line or a line under misspelled words. Well have make typos and some times we just do not know the correct spelling of a word but can get pretty close. The spell checker either corrects it for us or confirms that we have it spelled correctly. I know for a fact blackberries have it and I know of a few dumb phones that have a built in spell checker for SMS. Apple still lacks this very BASIC feature. If you are writing a professional email of any type it should not contain misspelled words and many people have replayed to an email on their phones. They normally are not long emails but may be a few lines but they should not contain a misspelled word.

2. Notifications system -- Apple currenty way of informing you notifications on the phone is a joke and you can not get any information off the lock screen. THis needs to be greatly improved. Having SMS, Voicemail, and email count alone would be nice. Also allow other apps to put something there so at a quick glance with out unlocking the phone we can get that infomation. Also it would be nice to do it off any screen that you have access to your icons along the top row. Very basic and it would be easy to include something in the setting that would allow the OS to override each app because some apps we would want to allow this and others that would be block. RIM did a good job on the control side look to them. On the OS level setting each app can be overriden and block from putting up notifications. Now apple could make this a lot easier to do that on RIM but the controls would need to be there to prevent app makers from going hog wild and not putting the option in the apps.

3. Profiles-- Apple really needs to have profile setting. Like allow the person to have an office setting which would have the ringtone volume turned down or even allow the user to have a different ring tone for the office because some of our favorite ring tones are very embarrassing to go off in an office. Having "My Humps" start playing in an office is just not a good idea. Now a basic ringer can work.


Now I know others might have something to ad to this list but I am trying to stay away from hardware things that could be done and those are much more debatable. The iPhone is a great consumer Smart Phone but I think it falls short on the business side and some minor additions would really add a lot to the business users and take way nothing to it wouuld add a lot of the consumer side.

Apple did a lot of speed up some changes to the smart phone industry I think there is just some areas the iPhone is really lacking and could use some bigger changes. One thing I know about the blackberry is when you really dig into it is is geared very well for the business user in mind with it puts a lot of information available at a glance and then the controls to limited what is put there to avoid overload and customizing to what the user wants. This includes all the way down to the little LED flashing to tell the user when a message has arrival


Not to start a flame war, but these are the reasons I went to a BlackBerry. Now, I'm not saying that it's the perfect phone--just today it totally froze up on me, I had to pull the battery out, and wait three minutes for it to decide to come back to life--but I couldn't stand the iPhone 'spell check'. It was just too subjective. It would change words I didn't want to change--no matter how many times I pressed the little 'x' in the corner, it would still correct the supposed mistakes--but would never catch when I'd spell just 'jsut'. However, on the BlackBerry, I can just add it to my dictionary, to change 'jsut' to 'just', and it does it. I love the multiple profiles--Normal for every day, Phone Only for night, when I don't want my friends texting at 3AM to tell me a cool story, or Vibrate and Quiet for when I need my phone not to make a peep, and yet, my LED will tell me if something is waiting, and I can look or not, and it won't have blasted my annoying ringtone in a place where it is entirely inappropriate. While I did like the vibrate/ring switch on the iPhone, it just wasn't always helpful. I've also decided I HATE virtual keyboards. IMO, it's so hard to use. However, Safari rendering is GORGEOUS, and I do miss it terribly.
 
Regardless of whether or not Apple is interested in the business market, or whether or not the Blackberry is a better product (both of which are debatable), I'm not persuaded that the iPhone isn't business oriented.

Personally, I find spellchecker to be both a crutch and a hindrance. Not only does it correct words that I probably already, or should, know how to spell, it often functions at the expense of grammar and syntax. Honestly, if I don't know how to write, how is a spellchecker going to show me? At best, it may make my writing bearable, but that still means the reader has to drudge through it in order to understand it. And, as the OP said, most emails are only a few lines anyway - if I can't proofread a few lines, what kind of professional am I?

And I don't get the notification argument. If I'm receiving each and every notification (any and all of which I can either pay attention to or not), how hard is it to just ignore one or the other? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see why unlocking the phone is a problem.

Now, the profiling argument may be valid, but I don't think it's sound. If the phone should be both personal and work oriented, then why aren't the volume and vibration options enough to adapt to where you are? On the other hand, if the phone is meant to be business oriented, why is "My Humps" (or anything like it) a ringtone at all? I'm not trying to be glib, OP, I just think you're being a little fussy.
 
I can live with the spell checking - or lack of - and I have a program, SpellChecker, that I can use if I am typing a long email and want to be sure. It easily transfers to the email app after wards.

But I do miss more notification options as well as custom profiles that I had on WM. I loved the way WM will switch to vibrate only when you have a meeting scheduled on your calendar - and back to normal after the meeting ends. Silent at night, ringer on at a certain time in the AM, notifications on/off, different sounds, etc. Miss all of that a little.

I would also like to add a better way to view multiple email accounts. Does not even have to be consolidated (like the BB), just a way to get to one or the other of my two account's Inboxes w/o a lot of screens.
 
The addition of having more than one Microsoft Exchange account.

I think Blackberry is the only phone that allows more the one Exchange account. And even then I think it the accounts still need to be under the same Exchange Organization. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I do know that Windows Mobile can't do it. I remember somebody tried to hack it so it could, but it had major conflicts.
 
LOL @ Apple not being interested in Professionals. Ever seen the music or music industry usage of Mac products?

Of course those are different industries, but Mac had to start somewhere.

The iPhone will evolve more and more once it goes to more U.S. carriers and they are truly competing in the "business" market. After all, they aren't going to rule the world without dominating all facets of cellular users.
 
Regardless of whether or not Apple is interested in the business market, or whether or not the Blackberry is a better product (both of which are debatable), I'm not persuaded that the iPhone isn't business oriented.

Personally, I find spellchecker to be both a crutch and a hindrance. Not only does it correct words that I probably already, or should, know how to spell, it often functions at the expense of grammar and syntax. Honestly, if I don't know how to write, how is a spellchecker going to show me? At best, it may make my writing bearable, but that still means the reader has to drudge through it in order to understand it. And, as the OP said, most emails are only a few lines anyway - if I can't proofread a few lines, what kind of professional am I?

And I don't get the notification argument. If I'm receiving each and every notification (any and all of which I can either pay attention to or not), how hard is it to just ignore one or the other? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see why unlocking the phone is a problem.

Now, the profiling argument may be valid, but I don't think it's sound. If the phone should be both personal and work oriented, then why aren't the volume and vibration options enough to adapt to where you are? On the other hand, if the phone is meant to be business oriented, why is "My Humps" (or anything like it) a ringtone at all? I'm not trying to be glib, OP, I just think you're being a little fussy.


I never understood the spell checker as a hindrance. And the learn to spell argument is a straw man argument.

For me I use spell checker like the tool it is supposed to be. That is to speed up the process of looking for misspelled words that or quite often I there are words I have no clue how to spell correctly but I can get close enough for the spell checker to get me there. Even a few lines it is still really nice because all it takes is one misspelled word to kill an entire email or even txt. It makes it just easier to read.

The notification argument is the fact that it does take a lot of extra time to to that slide or god forbid you have gloves on and all you can hit is the home key. Then you can at least get counts along with the clock. Why the hell even put a clock on the lock screen it is complete waste. How easy is it to unlock the phone and look at the top of the screen for that info and go to the app for larger print of it.
It to allow very basic information to be displayed at a quick glance. Why should there be a count on SMS or message on the screen or email. You can go to the App for that information.


To me most of the list I even made are things that the iPhone should of had on Day 1 over 2.5 years ago. Profiles you can let slide but the others is a COME ON. Right now the iPhone I feel is missing some very basic things from a smart phone.
 
...because some of our favorite ring tones are very embarrassing to go off in an office. Having "My Humps" start playing in an office is just not a good idea.

Question:

Where, geographically speaking, is it not embarrassing to have "My Humps" start playing from your phone?

EDIT: (And yes, I'm teasing you because I see little to argue about over your points. So take this as a compliment.)
 
Nice read, but the fact is, Apple isn't interested in being a business/corporate end supplier.

They are interested, but just starting out, and they have got to compete with RIM/BlackBerry which is established. However, everyone starts somewhere. Only a few years ago if you said to someone "I have a BlackBerry in my pocket" they would probably think you were weird for having fruit in your pocket.

I think Blackberry is the only phone that allows more the one Exchange account. And even then I think it the accounts still need to be under the same Exchange Organization. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I do know that Windows Mobile can't do it. I remember somebody tried to hack it so it could, but it had major conflicts.

The Enterprise version can only be linked to one Exchange account.

The Consumer could've potentially supported more, but I think RIM took the Exchange connector away, so don't know if it can support Exchange Mail anymore

The addition of having more than one Microsoft Exchange account.

If you are jailbroken you can/could. I don't know of the impact hough

I think the limitation is Activesync and the way it works rather than the devices implementation of it
 
Regardless of whether or not Apple is interested in the business market, or whether or not the Blackberry is a better product (both of which are debatable), I'm not persuaded that the iPhone isn't business oriented.

Personally, I find spellchecker to be both a crutch and a hindrance. Not only does it correct words that I probably already, or should, know how to spell, it often functions at the expense of grammar and syntax. Honestly, if I don't know how to write, how is a spellchecker going to show me? At best, it may make my writing bearable, but that still means the reader has to drudge through it in order to understand it. And, as the OP said, most emails are only a few lines anyway - if I can't proofread a few lines, what kind of professional am I?

And I don't get the notification argument. If I'm receiving each and every notification (any and all of which I can either pay attention to or not), how hard is it to just ignore one or the other? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see why unlocking the phone is a problem.

Now, the profiling argument may be valid, but I don't think it's sound. If the phone should be both personal and work oriented, then why aren't the volume and vibration options enough to adapt to where you are? On the other hand, if the phone is meant to be business oriented, why is "My Humps" (or anything like it) a ringtone at all? I'm not trying to be glib, OP, I just think you're being a little fussy.

I'm on the fence with spellchecker. Sometimes I love it, sometimes it makes me want to throw my phone across the room.

But I'm with the OP regarding his notification argument. Simply put, why can't Apple allow us to see how many emails, text/SMS, voicemails we have waiting, on the lock screen? Yes, we can choose to ignore them as they come in, but it would be a nice feature to have. Kind of like a prelude of what we have waiting for us when we have the time to actually unlock it.

I also agree with the profiles. If I want "My Humps" to be my "at home" ringtone, and the built-in "old phone" to be my "business" ringtone, each at different volume levels, and possibly with or without vibration, I want to be able to make all those changes with a simple push of an icon, rather than the PITA method we currently have.
 
Question:

Where, geographically speaking, is it not embarrassing to have "My Humps" start playing from your phone?

EDIT: (And yes, I'm teasing you because I see little to argue about over your points. So take this as a compliment.)

Honestly I can not think of one. Reason I though about "My Humps" by the Black Eye Peas is a guy I used to work with had that as his ringtone and it went off in a meeting. Everyone gave him the WTF look and he was beat read. Very bad ringtone to go off during a meeting.
 
Why the hell even put a clock on the lock screen it is complete waste. How easy is it to unlock the phone and look at the top of the screen for that info and go to the app for larger print of it.

I have found the clock on the lock screen incredibly useful, especially for people who don't have a watch. It's very quick to check and the size is big enough for a quick glance instead of squinting to see what the time is at the top of the home screen.

You could also argue how easy is it to unlock the phone and look at the badges to see any new notifications for whatever app.
 
These posts always make me shake my head and realize that there are way too many picky people out there. The iphone already has plenty of business capabilities, but because it doesn't appease 100% of the people (and you all know the old cliche about that), then someone is always going to complain.

Nearly everyone also knows about jailbreaking. Yes, I've heard all the reasons about not having time (even though you have time to post on the forum), shouldn't have to jailbreak to get what you need, etc. but those are also lame excuses. The phone, whether stock, or jailbroken is quite capable of performing most business uses.

I am a self employed business person as well. I get my emails pushed to me, I have a great calendar, I have lockscreen info installed on my jailbroken phone which took about 30 seconds to do, of which notifies me of any calls/voicemails/emails/appointments, I have a very quick and easy to use vibrate switch on the side to click when I need the phone silent for meetings and such. The phone auto correction works perfectly for me, with the exception of one or two words here and there, but those are easy fixes and I cant imagine anyone is so incredibly busy that they cant take the extra 10 seconds to correct a word. While I would like to have multiple profiles for personal and business email, it also only takes 5 seconds to delete my business signature if I am sending a personal email. Heck, I can also create and edit Office documents on the go, get directions to a client, use a great web browser if I need to look something up for business, and download multiple other apps that work great for business purposes.

I know many people that use the iphone for business and sure while some features would be nice to have, none of the missing features make the phone any less useable for business than a blackberry. Its only a matter of preference of which phone any one individual prefers. So, for those to say that Apple NEEDS to add certain features to make the phone better for business users is just someones opinion on what features they want, but none of which are REQUIRED to use the phone as a business tool.
 
I have found the clock on the lock screen incredibly useful, especially for people who don't have a watch. It's very quick to check and the size is big enough for a quick glance instead of squinting to see what the time is at the top of the home screen.

You could also argue how easy is it to unlock the phone and look at the badges to see any new notifications for whatever app.

I think you understand the point I was trying to make. If you read the guy I quoted on that he said that having notification on the lock screen is useless because you could just unlock it to get that info.

THe point I was trying to make was to show that under his argument the clock on the lock screen was useless.

I just feel that those things I list are some of the biggest failures of the iPhone. Profiles I can let slide but the others are just rather sad and when if and when apple adds them and screams how it is a new feature I will place them to the growing list of things that should of been on the iPhone on day 1.
 
I think you understand the point I was trying to make. If you read the guy I quoted on that he said that having notification on the lock screen is useless because you could just unlock it to get that info.

THe point I was trying to make was to show that under his argument the clock on the lock screen was useless.

I just feel that those things I list are some of the biggest failures of the iPhone. Profiles I can let slide but the others are just rather sad and when if and when apple adds them and screams how it is a new feature I will place them to the growing list of things that should of been on the iPhone on day 1.

What you listed in your original post are not failures. They are merely things that the iPhone OS does not use. If these are things that absolutely vital to business users or yourself, what would be the point in owning an iPhone then? "Cool factor"?

I just feel the real failures in situations like yours are the lack of the consumer educating themselves on the features of a phone, buying it, then complaining why the iPhone doesn't have what they need or want.:eek:
 
As discussed recently on another website:

Give us a way to scroll quickly to any part of a document or web page !!

It's beyond ridiculous that viewing a long webpage or PDF requires flick-scrolling your way to a scroll location. Try reading the 200+ page iPhone PDF manual that way. Woof. Not to mention accidentally hitting links while scrolling a long web page.

(Even Apple on their support website says "To view the guide on iPhone, tap the iPhone User Guide bookmark in Safari." In other words, don't bother with the PDF, use the simple webpage version instead.)

At least on other phones, you can use both methods... flick or use a popup scrollbar. Whoever at Apple that got too excited over flick-scrolling, and threw the scrollbar baby out with the bathwater, should be forced to read long documents all day.
 
What you listed in your original post are not failures. They are merely things that the iPhone OS does not use. If these are things that absolutely vital to business users or yourself, what would be the point in owning an iPhone then? "Cool factor"?

I just feel the real failures in situations like yours are the lack of the consumer educating themselves on the features of a phone, buying it, then complaining why the iPhone doesn't have what they need or want.:eek:

Ummm I have educated myself on those factors. Those items listed above are among the reasons I went with another phone. It is the bitching I hear about and some ways on my iPod touch it pisses me off because I can not write an email on them.

Some ways I think the things I listed would be great for the consumer side because I know many people would would love the basic spell checker, and notification on the lock screen.
 
The truth is I have never been 100% happy with any phone I've had
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...I have a Blackberry 8830 and 3G, there are little things that bug me about both. But I love the way my iPhone 'feels' to me...it's just a different experience from a usabiltiy perspective. My BB is just for business and my iPhone is for everything else.
 
Why can't you write an email on your iPod touch? :confused:

the lack of a spell checker. My have quite a few problem with spelling due to my dyslexia so it makes proofing reading a lot more difficult.

A basic spell checker built into the OS would be really nice.
 
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