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There are many reasons why Touch ID is a convenient alternative to Face ID.

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Higher end devices Touch ID coming back unlikely. Lower end might last a few more years before apple deciding to axe them.
 
Even the C-pandemic did not force Apple to bring TouchID back to their phones, but instead brought us FaceID with face mask. I don’t think TouchID would have even a slight chance to come back and replace FaceID. Instead, I want both TouchID and FaceID on at least the Pro models. Then you can either use both authentication for even greater security, or pick either one to use.
 
There could be worse notions than Touch ID, having to provide a DNA sample for example. But Face ID as implemented by Apple works so well and so reliably that I can hardly imagine why anyone would have any other preference. To provide for multiple users of a device? I can see that is reasonable for a tablet or laptop shared within a family, but for my phone, which is now my sole means of accessing my bank accounts, I think Face ID is great. Just pick the phone up and use it, what could be easier?
 
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We may see power button Touch ID on a new full screen SE model as Apple would save money if they removed Face ID.
 
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I see no return to TouchID from Apple in any new iOS device. For me, FaceID is working well on myiPadPro. The ”on” button TouchID on her iPadAir does work pretty well but we both prefer the FaceID.

What I really DO miss though is the Home button. It is soooo quick and easy to return to the Home screen with this one button on her SE(1st gen) and my iPhone7. Neither of us likes the swipe up, tap, swipe, move your leg to the left, etc., motions required to get to the Home screen on our recent iPads.
 
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I see no return to TouchID from Apple in any new iOS device. For me, FaceID is working well on myiPadPro. The ”on” button TouchID on her iPadAir does work pretty well but we both prefer the FaceID.

What I really DO miss though is the Home button. It is soooo quick and easy to return to the Home screen with this one button on her SE(1st gen) and my iPhone7. Neither of us likes the swipe up, tap, swipe, move your leg to the left, etc., motions required to get to the Home screen on our recent iPads.
At least you can tap the back of the iPhone as a home button. Face ID is less quick and reliable for me.
 
Not ever going to happen. Time to move on.
Said no identical twin ever. Apple admit their FaceID is, understandably, a complete failure when asked to distinguish between the facial features of identical twins. You'd be surprised how many there are. My two sons, for starters.

Apple removed a technology which was superior at differentiating between people than the solution they replaced it with, for no other reason than to placate customers and reviewers who complained the home button made their phones look dated compared to competitors' products, many of which had all-round edge-to-edge displays.

Many competitors' phones now have in-display finger-print scanners including high-profile best-sellers like the Google Pixel 6 and Samsung S22. There doesn't appear to be any good reason why Apple could not bring it back via similar technology, and please all of us.
 
Said no identical twin ever. Apple admit their FaceID is, understandably, a complete failure when asked to distinguish between the facial features of identical twins. You'd be surprised how many there are. My two sons, for starters.

Apple removed a technology which was superior at differentiating between people than the solution they replaced it with, for no other reason than to placate customers and reviewers who complained the home button made their phones look dated compared to competitors' products, many of which had all-round edge-to-edge displays.

Many competitors' phones now have in-display finger-print scanners including high-profile best-sellers like the Google Pixel 6 and Samsung S22. There doesn't appear to be any good reason why Apple could not bring it back via similar technology, and please all of us.
Not to mention backtracking on technology like magsafe power for MacBooks.
 
Said no identical twin ever. Apple admit their FaceID is, understandably, a complete failure when asked to distinguish between the facial features of identical twins. You'd be surprised how many there are. My two sons, for starters.

Apple removed a technology which was superior at differentiating between people than the solution they replaced it with, for no other reason than to placate customers and reviewers who complained the home button made their phones look dated compared to competitors' products, many of which had all-round edge-to-edge displays.

Many competitors' phones now have in-display finger-print scanners including high-profile best-sellers like the Google Pixel 6 and Samsung S22. There doesn't appear to be any good reason why Apple could not bring it back via similar technology, and please all of us.
Don’t think the occasionally rare identical twins will alter Apple’s choice. FaceTime is here to stay for the next year or two. Hope they keep FaceId even if they introduce a display finger reader.
 
Don’t think the occasionally rare identical twins will alter Apple’s choice. FaceTime is here to stay for the next year or two. Hope they keep FaceId even if they introduce a display finger reader.
I definitely have no issue with it existing. But it would be good to be offered the choice.

There are far more 'occasionally rare' identical twins than you think. As at December 2021, 1 in 42 babies are born a twin:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56365422

...most of whom are sufficiently identical (obvs except male/female twins) to confuse the technology. I couldn't tell you how many unique finger prints there are. But it's not going to be 1 in 42. And no matter what ratio it is, your fingerprint double is just as likely to live at the other side of the planet as next door to you.
 
I definitely have no issue with it existing. But it would be good to be offered the choice.

There are probably far less 'occasionally rare' identical twins than you think. As at December 2021, 1 in 42 babies are born a twin:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56365422

...most of whom are sufficiently identical (obvs except male/female twins) to confuse the technology. I couldn't tell you how many unique finger prints there are. but it's not going to be 1 in 42. And if it is, your double is just as likely to live at the other side of the planet as next door to you.

‘We can see how worried Apple is about this. Congrats and have a good weekend.
 
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Don’t think it’ll be back.

Not sure I’d want it in a power button. Nothing compares to the feel of the original button, unlocking your device while pulling it out of your pocket. That click it makes as it takes you home to all those satisfying apps. I would rub that button for hours…

Wait, what were we talking about? Oh, yes. Button gone, Touch ID gone, forever.
 
‘We can see how worried Apple is about this. Congrats and have a good weekend.
We can, unfortunately. Up to 1 in 42* people aren't going to be able to use the FaceID because they look exactly like their brother or sister...when the far superior finger-print-reading technology existed before it.

*Will in reality be less because of non-identical twins.
 
I bet the 1 in 42* can use the iPad with no problems at all. Your argument is just to argue. I am done here.
 
I bet the 1 in 42* can use the iPad with no problems at all. Your argument is just to argue. I am done here.
Fair enough. I'm just not grasping why you have an aversion to the two technologies co-existing together.

EDIT: and as for me just wanting to argue, well sorry you feel that way. I just tried to put together a justified (with facts) point of view explaining why there is a valid cause for TouchID to co-exist with FaceID. Maybe I'm wrong but you just seem to have taken offence because you didn't think of it.

Enjoy the rest of your day.
 
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Don’t think it’ll be back.

Not sure I’d want it in a power button. Nothing compares to the feel of the original button, unlocking your device while pulling it out of your pocket. That click it makes as it takes you home to all those satisfying apps. I would rub that button for hours…

Wait, what were we talking about? Oh, yes. Button gone, Touch ID gone, forever.
I think you need to wipe it down now.
 
Fair enough. I'm just not grasping why you have an aversion to the two technologies co-existing together.

EDIT: and as for me just wanting to argue, well sorry you feel that way. I just tried to put together a justified point of view explaining why there is a valid reason for TouchID to co-exist with FaceID. Maybe I'm wrong but you just seem to have taken offence because you didn't think of it.

Enjoy the rest of your day.
No where did I say that I had a problem with both. See!
 
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