Not to worry, a Mini can pirate with the best of them.
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What are the limitations of a mini?
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Not to worry, a Mini can pirate with the best of them.
Um, downloading torrents and streaming video are using the internet.
Nothing.
The Mac Mini has the same specs was the MacBook I think.. It's a great computer. It does still have an Intel Core 2 Duo but a lot of PC companies are shipping out 10 year old chips!! yeah!! i know!! Lol
The reason there isn't many limitations is because it's running OSX.. there are still computers from 2004 that are running mac OSX... and they run better than 2009 PC's... The Mac computers are meant to run for 5-7 years, and then buy an upgrade, they last a long time. PC's last about 1 or 2 years TOPS, and they are still slow.
Mac Mini is a great computer, it's fast, and into date. As for Torrents, it all depends on the RAM, processor and internet connection. The RAM and processor are excellent for that, but the internet will determine it, really. And by the way, all torrents are slow, even on Mac Pros, or top of the line PCs.. it's just the way they are..
Thank you for choosing the Mac... you will NEVER regret it. (((
You can even run windows on it with BootCamp built-in out of the box.. what's better than a mac+ PC.... not a PC... LOL
The Mac Mini has the same specs was the MacBook I think.. It's a great computer. It does still have an Intel Core 2 Duo but a lot of PC companies are shipping out 10 year old chips!! yeah!! i know!! Lol
The reason there isn't many limitations is because it's running OSX.. there are still computers from 2004 that are running mac OSX... and they run better than 2009 PC's... The Mac computers are meant to run for 5-7 years, and then buy an upgrade, they last a long time. PC's last about 1 or 2 years TOPS, and they are still slow.
Mac Mini is a great computer, it's fast, and into date. As for Torrents, it all depends on the RAM, processor and internet connection. The RAM and processor are excellent for that, but the internet will determine it, really. And by the way, all torrents are slow, even on Mac Pros, or top of the line PCs.. it's just the way they are..
Thank you for choosing the Mac... you will NEVER regret it. (((
You can even run windows on it with BootCamp built-in out of the box.. what's better than a mac+ PC.... not a PC... LOL
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You didn't really say that, did you?
If that's your honest opinion, you either have been REALLY new to the Mac world, have no idea what you're talking about, or are just simply seeing things through rose-coloured glasses. No offence, but that's just simply wrong.
Hi Transporteur,
have to agree with most of cootersgarage6 comment.
And please, don't try to 'school' me about computers - I simply know too much in that field (and I have 4 PCs & 4 Macs at home) so I know 'what I'm talking about'
have to agree with most of cootersgarage6 comment.
And please, don't try to 'school' me about computers - I simply know too much in that field (and I have 4 PCs & 4 Macs at home) so I know 'what I'm talking about'
PPC... Enough said!
Apple ditched support for those machines after only three years. The same might happen when Apple decides to release Lion for 64bit Kernel machines only. That would mean that even 2009 machines wouldn't be able to run this OS.
Simply but, Apple doesn't care for longevity of their products and only has a very short support period. If your machine is over that period, you're screwed and have to buy a new machine.
And 2004 Macs (G4 or G5 machines) that run faster than 2009 PCs? Sorry, but EVERY PC you can buy these days (and back in 2009) runs circles around these PPC machines. Period!
PCs lasting one or two years? Sorry, but that's just plain ignorant. For sure, if you can find a used P4 today, that machine will be slow, but everything you can buy new these days mostly has the exact same basic components than a basic Mac (Core2Duo, or Nehalem based processors). So how can one possibly say that those machines are slower than a Mac and last only one to two years?
Apple ditched support for those machines after only three years. The same might happen when Apple decides to release Lion for 64bit Kernel machines only. That would mean that even 2009 machines wouldn't be able to run this OS.
Simply but, Apple doesn't care for longevity of their products and only has a very short support period. If your machine is over that period, you're screwed and have to buy a new machine.
And 2004 Macs (G4 or G5 machines) that run faster than 2009 PCs? Sorry, but EVERY PC you can buy these days (and back in 2009) runs circles around these PPC machines. Period!
PCs lasting one or two years? Sorry, but that's just plain ignorant. For sure, if you can find a used P4 today, that machine will be slow, but everything you can buy new these days mostly has the exact same basic components than a basic Mac (Core2Duo, or Nehalem based processors). So how can one possibly say that those machines are slower than a Mac and last only one to two years?
Presently I have a late 2009 2.53Ghz Mac Mini running headless in my closet. I have it set up as a fileserver, webserver/MySQL/PHP, and also run uTorrent, with folder actions to run handbrake automatically on finished downloads, and move them onto the firewire drive when finished. Also MagicJack is on it.
I use Screen Sharing from my MBP to manage it when I need to. It handles it perfectly, takes about an hour and a half to convert a 2 hour avi to mp4(h.264).
It gets the job done and does it well, without issues.
I use Screen Sharing from my MBP to manage it when I need to. It handles it perfectly, takes about an hour and a half to convert a 2 hour avi to mp4(h.264).
It gets the job done and does it well, without issues.
That is not true. Intel machines were introduced in Jan 2006. Apple just dropped support for power pc recently.
As has been said, both Macs and PCs have very similar hardware these days and within the limits of the operating systems, behave in a similar manner.
However I have found it MUCH easier to sell a used Mac than to sell a used PC, and they bring a much higher percentage of their original purchase price. My experience is usually with hardware that is fairly recent (less than 3 years old), older machines have even a wider discrepancy. Even vintage Macs seem to sell well, whereas you can't even give away a older PC.
When it is mentioned that Macs are too expensive compared to PC machines, I think people not only overlook the value of the included OS and Application Software, but fail to recognize the resale value of the Mac which tends to more than equalize the initial price differential.
However I have found it MUCH easier to sell a used Mac than to sell a used PC, and they bring a much higher percentage of their original purchase price. My experience is usually with hardware that is fairly recent (less than 3 years old), older machines have even a wider discrepancy. Even vintage Macs seem to sell well, whereas you can't even give away a older PC.
When it is mentioned that Macs are too expensive compared to PC machines, I think people not only overlook the value of the included OS and Application Software, but fail to recognize the resale value of the Mac which tends to more than equalize the initial price differential.
Introduction of Mac Pro - August 2006.
Till that date, the G5 was the top of the line workstation of Apple.
Release date of Snow Leopard - August 2009.
That is exactly three years later. So after three years, the latest G5's were not supported any more.
Now you tell me how this is not true!
Nonsense. The first Intel Macs were introduced in January 2006 and shipped a couple of weeks later. So, what you said isn't true. In fact, it's false.
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Apple_Reveals_First_Intel_Mac_iMac/
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/01/10/apple_macs_intel_price/
Your both correct, at least kindve (Transporteur is correct, fa8362, your kindve wrong). Apple transitioned over a period of 6 Months. The Pro Tower was PowerPC G5 Based until Mid-06 (and the Quad G5 is more powerful than the Intel Macs introduced in January 2006 - geekbenches are about 3300 for the Quad G5 and about 2600 for the Intel iMac/MBP) when the Pro was introduced (It was in June 2006 I believe), Apples most powerful machine became Intel based. Thus the very last PowerPC Macs were 3 years old when support was dropped, and the very first Intel Macs were 3.5 when it was dropped.
I'm not wrong. I never said a word about Mac Pros. Mac Pros are irrelevant to the discussion of when Apple introduced Intel Macs. Apple introduced Intel Macs in January 2006. That cannot be disputed.
Wow, it's amazing how people like to bash the poor little mini. And they mostly do it to talk up the iMac! Wow. Just wow.
A little hint here: Many people out there don't want an all-in-one. I'm sure the iMac is great and fast and neato with its wonderful built in screen and all that, but it's still an all-in-one. That makes it quite useless to a lot of people. Myself included.
Now that you've gone and bashed up the mini because it's not what you own, here's my piece: The mini is a surprising little box. It does a lot for little money. No, it's not as fast as an iMac or a Mac Pro. Most people don't need a lot of power anyway. I know for a fact that the OP doesn't.
For $780, I got a Mac Mini, 320GB HDD at 7200rpm (to replace the stock 120GB 5400rpm), 4GB of memory, an apple keyboard, and a mini displayport -> DVI adapter. This was almost 2 years ago. I'm still using it today, and it's still a fantastic little machine. It does everything I need and then some. Yes, I'd rather have a Mac Pro, I just don't have the $2K lying around waiting to be burned. No, I still don't want an all-in-one iMac.
To the OP: Yes, it will do everything you want and more. Go ahead and buy with confidence. If you find that it doesn't perform to your satisfaction, return it. Easy.
A little hint here: Many people out there don't want an all-in-one. I'm sure the iMac is great and fast and neato with its wonderful built in screen and all that, but it's still an all-in-one. That makes it quite useless to a lot of people. Myself included.
Now that you've gone and bashed up the mini because it's not what you own, here's my piece: The mini is a surprising little box. It does a lot for little money. No, it's not as fast as an iMac or a Mac Pro. Most people don't need a lot of power anyway. I know for a fact that the OP doesn't.
For $780, I got a Mac Mini, 320GB HDD at 7200rpm (to replace the stock 120GB 5400rpm), 4GB of memory, an apple keyboard, and a mini displayport -> DVI adapter. This was almost 2 years ago. I'm still using it today, and it's still a fantastic little machine. It does everything I need and then some. Yes, I'd rather have a Mac Pro, I just don't have the $2K lying around waiting to be burned. No, I still don't want an all-in-one iMac.
To the OP: Yes, it will do everything you want and more. Go ahead and buy with confidence. If you find that it doesn't perform to your satisfaction, return it. Easy.
Once you see what a Mac Pro does to your electric bill, I doubt you'd want it. The mini is way less expensive to operate. Mine draw only 13 watts at idle, and the newest minis draw 10 watts at idle. The Mac Pros are 10 or more times that at idle.
Err, you are wrong in your interpretation of the discussion, the introduction of the Mac Pro is incredibly relevant, because what matters isnt when Intel Macs were introduced, its when the last PowerPC Macs were sold which indicates how long Apple waited before dropping support, not the instance their replacement appeared (Look at the 68K transition, Apple was selling 68K Macs new long after the 6100 came out, and people look at the loss of support for 68K from the day the last 68K machine was sold, not the day the very first PowerPC Mac was available).
It really depends what you want to accomplish - some of us need the Mac Pro to get stuff done (Heavy-duty Motion 4 and Final Cut Rendering as well as Code Compilation in my case). The Mac Mini while not terrible, still is the most compromised of Apples current line-up of Desktops (No i3/i5/i7 Option for example) - it still doesnt stop me wanting one as a Server and one as a Guest Computer however.
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Sorry, but that's total nonsense. Apple introduced Intel Macs in January 2006. Period, end of discussion. Trying to argue a fact is senseless.
Once again, I think it is less compromised than the mac with the built in display. To get the step up in performance, I would be forced to have the display with it. It is not something you can change, which makes it more compromised than the mini for anyone that already has a display, wants a better display than the one built in, or needs a small form factor.
If I want a sports car, I don't want a uhaul permanently attached to it, even if they throw the uhaul in at half price. It is the same thing with the mini. I don't want a display that is permanently attached thrown in, even if it is discounted. I am amazed that people have such a hard time understanding that people's needs are different.
Im not arguing with you, if youd bothered reading my post youd understand that by now. Im saying clearly to you, Just because Apple introduced A Intel mac then, doesnt mean they stopped selling PowerPC Macs on that date, because they didnt (I had a G5 which shipped in April 2006 for a while), the fact is PowerPC wasn't super-seeded in the entire product line until Mid-2006, that is the only date you can call Apples end of PowerPC, not the date in January - so PowerPC Macs stopped being supported 3 years after they stopped being sold by Apple.
Who cares when they stopped selling Power Macs? Apple introduced Intel Macs in January, 2006. Period, end of story.
Yeah, it's amazing what some people will do to avoid being proven wrong about their 3 year assertion. Again, Jan 2006. End of story.
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This will be my last post trying to educate you of the blindsidingly obvious. Apple stopped selling PowerPC Macs in June/July 2006, until that time the most powerful machine they sold was the PowerPC PowerMac G5 Quad. Transporteur, as well as just about everyone else who can count agrees that this is 3 years before the end of PowerPC Support, this is the date the counts, because until then Apple was still making and selling PowerPC Macs. The fact they sold something else doesnt detract from this fact, and if you think it does, you shouldnt be on a forum, but should be spending your time learning about how things such as time before end of support are measured, especially before charging in with a view that is not only completely wrong, but ridiculous and unresearched, under your view, somethings count to the end of being supported starts as soon as a parallel product line is updated, which can only be viewed as utter nonsense.
Also, you need to learn to Multi-Quote in your posts, as per the forum rules.
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I have 2 mini's. One is the older 1.83GHZ model and one is a mini server. The server handles my business websites and email AND serves as the media server for my home. It regularly streams to 2 apple tv's while serving up web pages and moving large attachements in email while accepting time machine backups from 4 other macs connected. It has yet to stall or go over 70% of the processing power. It has 12tb of storage across 2 firewire connected RAID sets in addition to the dual 500gb drives. The server is the 2.53GHz model. I was very surprised at what these little machines can do. Don't think you can go wrong with it.
As for those who say it's overpriced, well quality speaks for itself. I have owned macs since my first 128k mac and have had about every desktop model ever made at one time or another and very very few ever just died. I still have but don't use 3 quad 950's and even the famous quadra 840av and they still run fine if I fire them up. (funny to hear them start now)
I have 2 mini's. One is the older 1.83GHZ model and one is a mini server. The server handles my business websites and email AND serves as the media server for my home. It regularly streams to 2 apple tv's while serving up web pages and moving large attachements in email while accepting time machine backups from 4 other macs connected. It has yet to stall or go over 70% of the processing power. It has 12tb of storage across 2 firewire connected RAID sets in addition to the dual 500gb drives. The server is the 2.53GHz model. I was very surprised at what these little machines can do. Don't think you can go wrong with it.
As for those who say it's overpriced, well quality speaks for itself. I have owned macs since my first 128k mac and have had about every desktop model ever made at one time or another and very very few ever just died. I still have but don't use 3 quad 950's and even the famous quadra 840av and they still run fine if I fire them up. (funny to hear them start now)