iPad Pro What are the risks running iPad OS beta on IPP 12.9 2nd gen now?

[gwhizkids]

At risk of irritating some, let’s move the speculation about the next beta to the speculation thread. That keeps this one clear to discuss issues re this beta.

 

[Shirasaki]

Apple changed policy. They will restore a device running beta.

Ahh, good to know. Thanks.

 

[Jonathantuba]

I can’t wait to get iOS 13 on my iPad Pro 12.9”, but am holding off until the public beta - and only then after making a full back-up to iTunes. I did that with iOS 11 when there was last big advances on the iPad.

I will also keep iOS 12 on my older 10.5” iPad Pro to act as a working back-up in case any of the apps I use don’t work with iOS 13 as yet.

 

[hajime]

As for trying out beta, you should always make a full encrypted backup no matter what using iTunes. That way, you always have something to fall back to when things go south and you don’t need to worry too much about app data.

As for the file system, no. iPadOS does not provide and will never provide a fully functional file system (who want direct access to “/etc” “/sys” “/bin” folder on a daily basis anyway?). The files app merely opens a folder or partition or mounting point for apps to dump their data and that is it, with limitations. You won’t navigate files app by going through folder structures like “/Users/default/Documents”. But you can navigate some app data or your data around just like using macOS finder.

As for the filesystem support, iPadOS won’t support NTFS or any Linux filesystem at all, and maybe won’t support encrypted HFS+ or APFS in the near future. NAS support or SMB support is there, but as of now it is still limited. It can change though.

Any good videos that show how the new file system is like realistically?

 

[Shirasaki]

Any good videos that show how the new file system is like realistically?

Ahh, I think you just need to check out those iOS/iPadOS 13 beta “new features” videos to get an idea how file system is.

 

[hajime]

Since no beta3 released yet and I need to get an idea if iPP+iPadOS can be my ultraportable device, I tried to install beta2. I logged into my developer account, clicked on iOS icon but only XCode_11_beta 2.xip is available to download. I downloaded it but when I tried to extract the file, I got: cpio read error+ Undefined error:0 I am using OX X El Capitan 10.11.3. This is the latest OS that Apple allows me to use on MBP 2010 17". Tried to install XCode 11 beta 2 on Windows PC but could not extract the file. Any suggestion?

 

[Shirasaki]

Since no beta3 released yet and I need to get an idea if iPP+iPadOS can be my ultraportable device, I tried to install beta2. I logged into my developer account, clicked on iOS icon but only XCode_11_beta 2.xip is available to download. I downloaded it but when I tried to extract the file, I got: cpio read error+ Undefined error:0 I am using OX X El Capitan 10.11.3. This is the latest OS that Apple allows me to use on MBP 2010 17". Tried to install XCode 11 beta 2 on Windows PC but could not extract the file. Any suggestion?

Your computer simply cannot install Xcode. But you can google a small package on Twitter to install. That package provides mobile device support for iOS 13 devices without using latest iTunes. Or, you can “show package content” on Mac, and find a package name Called “mobiledevice.pkg”, extract it and install it. I am not sure if that file is actually inside Xcode though. Give it a try.

 

[hajime]

Your computer simply cannot install Xcode. But you can google a small package on Twitter to install. That package provides mobile device support for iOS 13 devices without using latest iTunes. Or, you can “show package content” on Mac, and find a package name Called “mobiledevice.pkg”, extract it and install it. I am not sure if that file is actually inside Xcode though. Give it a try.

Thanks. Is such inconvenience TC's way of making people to buy a new Mac laptop/desktop?

 

[Shirasaki]

Thanks. Is such inconvenience TC's way of making people to buy a new Mac laptop/desktop?

Nah. It is a bit far stretched to consider that way in my opinion. Plus beta is not intended for mass deployment after all.

 

[hajime]

So Apple does release a new beta today. I will try to get it installed on my IPP this week.

 

[hajime]

So Apple does release a new beta today. I will try to get it installed on my IPP this week.

Installed it successfully. Thanks.

What adapter do you recommend to buy to try out the new file system and external storage features?

 

[gwhizkids]

Since no beta3 released yet and I need to get an idea if iPP+iPadOS can be my ultraportable device, I tried to install beta2. I logged into my developer account, clicked on iOS icon but only XCode_11_beta 2.xip is available to download. I downloaded it but when I tried to extract the file, I got: cpio read error+ Undefined error:0 I am using OX X El Capitan 10.11.3. This is the latest OS that Apple allows me to use on MBP 2010 17". Tried to install XCode 11 beta 2 on Windows PC but could not extract the file. Any suggestion?

Tl; dr.

Anyhoo: The public beta is out, so you don’t need to install via IPSW as was required for beta 1. But in any event, were you trying to install Xcode on a Hackintosh or emulator? You can’t run it on windows natively. Also Xcode needs to be run on Mojave or higher (from release notes: “Xcode 11 requires a Mac running macOS Mojave 10.14.4 or later.”)

 

[hajime]

Mostly working and butter smooth. Rarely (may be 5% of the time), choosing things on the touch screen did not seem to work. BT mouse also works but cursor motion a bit jumpy.