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LizKat

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Listened to this album a few times on a recent road trip. Goes well with Vermont.

There's a lot of Eilen Jewell tracks I really love, she writes some piece of work songs!
[doublepost=1471652312][/doublepost]For me now it's some Friday night jazz... tonight some picks by Charlie Haden & Gonzalo Rubalcaba. Haden was an amazing bassist and worked with Rubalcaba on several albums although I only have the one of theirs called Nocturne. If you don’t know of these guys then this is a good place for just a little flavor.


Haden also did a couple albums w/ Keith Jarrett so Rubalcaba not the only pianist suddenly fell short of a great bass option when Haden passed away. Last Dance is a great album based on some 2007 recording sessions; it was released in 2014 about a month before Haden passed away.

Some may have heard of Haden through his Liberation Music Orchestra collaborations with Carla Bley. Not in our Name is the album I have, and it might well be apt for this election season, but tonight I’m more in the mood for Haden’s reflective side, hence the Nocturne picks.
 
There's a lot of Eilen Jewell tracks I really love, she writes some piece of work songs!

I'm embarrassed that I only discovered her a month ago. I've only purchased her latest album but look forward to digging deeper into her decade-long catalogue once I've worn it out. That'll take a good long while.

She reminds me a bit of the late Kate Wolf with her eye for lyric detail and in that she leans towards observation and narrative more than pure introspection. (If you're not familiar with Kate Wolf, check out her Live at Austin City Limits album.) Musically, to my ear she falls more in the vein of Lucinda Williams, who I've cooled on in recent years.
 
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lowendlinux

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Okay.. I'm going to make an incredible admission that will shock everyone.

Okay.. here goes.

I really despised the Beatles.

Yeah. I said it. I thought the Beatles were crap. complete, total crap.

Note that all of that was past tense. See, growing up, music held the least importance in my mind (hey, I was a kid, and wanted to go outside and play with my Transformers, play dodge ball, etc.. all the boy things!), and especially music from before my time (especially since being black, it was a very tumultuous time in the world). I just wanted to avoid the doomy, gloomy, drug infested haze that was music back in the 60s, and stay with the happy tunes I had as a kid in the 80s. Even in school then, we had kids songs like Yellow Submarine, which I sure as hell didn't know was the Beatles. I knew a few songs from them, but never put one and one together. Paul McCartney? I knew him from duets with Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson. Ringo Starr? Thomas the Tank Engine. George Harrison? Travelling Wilburys. John Lennon? Didn't he write some Christmas music?

Anyway, you get the point.

35 years later, I'm finally starting to come around, and again, it's taking my children and a recently premiered show on Netflix to do it.

that said, I just picked up the soundtrack of this for my children, and while the die-hards will always say that the originals are better, keep in mind that I'm looking at this with the innocent eyes of a 4 and 6 year old child. If you have Netflix, I think even as adults you'd enjoy the shows, but the music is great for what they are doing.

With that, here's Beat Bugs, an original kids show incorporating more than 50 songs from the Lennon/McCartney ïNorthern Songs' catalog and features covers by world-leading music artists.


BL.
The Beatles are still crap though.
 

bradl

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Statement of fact, or a personal opinion, or someone looking for a bout of musical fisticuffs on a Saturday afternoon?

Good question.

I guess I should say that the point of my post is that some music is like wine; it's an acquired taste, where that taste has to grow on you, through one form or another.

Perfect examples: for various reasons, I absolutely could not stand Simple Mind's Don't You Forget About Me, Suzanne Vega's Luka, and Crowded House's Don't Dream It's Over, whether from overplayed, really dark, small sample (read: 1 hit wonder).

I was at Crowded House's final show in 1996 in Sydney. I didn't know that they had 4 albums, all with really great songs. Luka really grew on me with how lush the musical arrangement was. Simple Minds, like all other great songs, just never gets old.

It may take a different arrangement, but the music still lasts.

BL.
 
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Good question.

I guess I should say that the point of my post is that some music is like wine; it's an acquired taste, where that taste has to grow on you, through one form or another.

Perfect examples: for various reasons, I absolutely could not stand Simple Mind's Don't You Forget About Me, Suzanne Vega's Luka, and Crowded House's Don't Dream It's Over, whether from overplayed, really dark, small sample (read: 1 hit wonder).

I was at Crowded House's final show in 1996 in Sydney. I didn't know that they had 4 albums, all with really great songs. Luka really grew on me with how lush the musical arrangement was. Simple Minds, like all other great songs, just never gets old.

It may take a different arrangement, but the music still lasts.

BL.

Perhaps it is not just an acquired taste, but also an evolving one. What you may have liked then is not necessarily what your ear - and mind - may prefer now. Indeed, your tolerance for different forms of music has probably extended exponentially.

Anyway, I have always liked The Beatles, but - within that - my preferences have evolved.

When I was a teenager, I liked the early stuff, and quite a few of the rock tracks, and yes, some of the later material.

However, a few years ago, I ripped the 'White Album', - not having listened to it in an age - and discovered that what I wished to listen to had undergone a marked change.

My brother and I had a discussion, and - to my surprise - he guessed (almost exactly) what I would choose to 'rip' now - and - while there was some considerable overlap - there were also marked differences between my preferences on that album now, and what my more youthful self would have selected.

Many of the 'hard rock' tracks (let us say, Helter Skelter) are somehow less appealing, whereas homage to early 20th century Music Hall styles ('Honey Pie') have become strangely attractive.

Thus, tracks such as Rocky Raccoon, and Honey Pie - which I would never have considered 'music' have developed an appeal I would never have imagined (and also showcased the Beatles' range of musical influences), while the more classic 'rock' numbers seem to me not to have aged quite as well. Indeed, my favourite tack (on what is admittedly a superb album) is 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps'.
 
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It's Sunday, so...
Sometimes the simplest lyric is the best. But sometimes the craziest title is, too:

"All The Things You Could Be By Now If Sigmund Freud's Wife Was Your Mother"
Charles Mingus

"It's Alright Ma, I'm Only Bleeding"
The Duhks
The thread about the Naked Trump statues reminded me of the lyric "even the President of the United States must sometimes have to stand naked" and I needed to wash the image out of my brain. This did the trick.
 
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pachyderm

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Okay.. I'm going to make an incredible admission that will shock everyone.

Okay.. here goes.

I really despised the Beatles.

Yeah. I said it. I thought the Beatles were crap. complete, total crap.

Note that all of that was past tense. See, growing up, music held the least importance in my mind (hey, I was a kid, and wanted to go outside and play with my Transformers, play dodge ball, etc.. all the boy things!), and especially music from before my time (especially since being black, it was a very tumultuous time in the world). I just wanted to avoid the doomy, gloomy, drug infested haze that was music back in the 60s, and stay with the happy tunes I had as a kid in the 80s. Even in school then, we had kids songs like Yellow Submarine, which I sure as hell didn't know was the Beatles. I knew a few songs from them, but never put one and one together. Paul McCartney? I knew him from duets with Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson. Ringo Starr? Thomas the Tank Engine. George Harrison? Travelling Wilburys. John Lennon? Didn't he write some Christmas music?

Anyway, you get the point.

35 years later, I'm finally starting to come around, and again, it's taking my children and a recently premiered show on Netflix to do it.

that said, I just picked up the soundtrack of this for my children, and while the die-hards will always say that the originals are better, keep in mind that I'm looking at this with the innocent eyes of a 4 and 6 year old child. If you have Netflix, I think even as adults you'd enjoy the shows, but the music is great for what they are doing.

With that, here's Beat Bugs, an original kids show incorporating more than 50 songs from the Lennon/McCartney ïNorthern Songs' catalog and features covers by world-leading music artists.


BL.

some truly crap(imho) artist on there though... and knowing paul mccartney from those duets is such shame. i hope you are lying about that.

that said, i do like several artists on there and i will seek out their versions of those tunes.

not on iTunes yet it seems...

the show looks very cute.
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very disappointed that this isn't on iTunes... unless it is under a different name...
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Debating between listening to Nina Simone, or Peggy Lee....

Perhaps Ella Fitzgerald....

I'd vote Nina.

And Nina for the Beatles lovers/haters/ambivalent-ers.

Nina for the folks asked, "what the hell do you have to lose."

Which reminds me of this poem by Muriel Rukeyser who doesn't need "the best words" because she knew how to use the right ones.

After you finish your work
after you do your day
after you've read your reading
after you've written your say –
you go down the street to the hot dog stand,
one block down and across the way.
On a blistering afternoon in East Harlem in the twentieth
century.

Most of the windows are boarded up,
the rats run out of a sack –
sticking out of the crummy garage
one shiny long Cadillac;
at the glass door of the drug-addiction center,
a man who'd like to break your back.
But here's a brown woman with a little girl dressed in rose
and pink, too.

Frankfurters frankfurters sizzle on the steel
where the hot-dog-man leans –
nothing else on the counter
but the usual two machines,
the grape one, empty, and the orange one, empty,
I face him in between.
A black boy comes along, looks at the hot dogs, goes on
walking.

I watch the man as he stands and pours
in the familiar shape
bright purple in the one marked ORANGE
orange in the one marked GRAPE,
the grape drink in the machine marked ORANGE
and orange drink in the GRAPE.
Just the one word large and clear, unmistakeable, on each
machine.

I ask him : How can we go on reading
and make sense out of what we read? –
How can they write and believe what they're writing,
the young ones across the street,
while you go on pouring grape in ORANGE
and orange into the one marked GRAPE –?
(How are we going to believe what we read and we write
and we hear and we say and we do?)

He looks at the two machines and he smiles
and he shrugs and smiles and pours again.
It could be violence and nonviolence
it could be white and black women and men
it could be war and peace or any
binary system, love and hate, enemy, friend.
Yes and no, be and not-be, what we do and what we don't
do.

On a corner in East Harlem
garbage, reading, a deep smile, rape,
forgetfulness, a hot street of murder,
misery, withered hope,
a man keeps pouring grape into ORANGE
and orange into the one marked GRAPE,
pouring orange into GRAPE and grape into ORANGE forever.

Muriel Rukeyser, "Ballad of Orange and Grape" from The Collected Poems of Muriel Rukeyser.
Copyright © 2006 by Muriel Rukeyser. Reprinted by permission of International Creative Management.
Source: Breaking Open (Random House Inc., 1973)
 
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I'd vote Nina.

And Nina for the Beatles lovers/haters/ambivalent-ers.

Nina for the folks asked, "what the hell do you have to lose."

Which reminds me of this poem by Muriel Rukeyser.

After you finish your work
after you do your day
after you've read your reading
after you've written your say –
you go down the street to the hot dog stand,
one block down and across the way.
On a blistering afternoon in East Harlem in the twentieth
century.

Most of the windows are boarded up,
the rats run out of a sack –
sticking out of the crummy garage
one shiny long Cadillac;
at the glass door of the drug-addiction center,
a man who'd like to break your back.
But here's a brown woman with a little girl dressed in rose
and pink, too.

Frankfurters frankfurters sizzle on the steel
where the hot-dog-man leans –
nothing else on the counter
but the usual two machines,
the grape one, empty, and the orange one, empty,
I face him in between.
A black boy comes along, looks at the hot dogs, goes on
walking.
I watch the man as he stands and pours
in the familiar shape
bright purple in the one marked ORANGE
orange in the one marked GRAPE,
the grape drink in the machine marked ORANGE
and orange drink in the GRAPE.
Just the one word large and clear, unmistakeable, on each
machine.

I ask him : How can we go on reading
and make sense out of what we read? –
How can they write and believe what they're writing,
the young ones across the street,
while you go on pouring grape in ORANGE
and orange into the one marked GRAPE –?
(How are we going to believe what we read and we write
and we hear and we say and we do?)

He looks at the two machines and he smiles
and he shrugs and smiles and pours again.
It could be violence and nonviolence
it could be white and black women and men
it could be war and peace or any
binary system, love and hate, enemy, friend.
Yes and no, be and not-be, what we do and what we don't
do.

On a corner in East Harlem
garbage, reading, a deep smile, rape,
forgetfulness, a hot street of murder,
misery, withered hope,
a man keeps pouring grape into ORANGE
and orange into the one marked GRAPE,
pouring orange into GRAPE and grape into ORANGE forever.

Muriel Rukeyser, "Ballad of Orange and Grape" from The Collected Poems of Muriel Rukeyser.
Copyright © 2006 by Muriel Rukeyser. Reprinted by permission of International Creative Management.
Source: Breaking Open (Random House Inc., 1973)

Nina it is, then, and thanks for the suggestion.
 

Savor

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^ I feel like playing Final Fantasy games after hearing that.

For the first time I heard Queen's "Radio Gaga" today. The song Lady Gaga named herself after. It's a cool song too. I love its new wave sound. The 1980's is like a bottomless ocean of good songs. Just when I think I heard it all, I find another gem I never heard before.
 

Tech198

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^ I feel like playing Final Fantasy games after hearing that.

For the first time I heard Queen's "Radio Gaga" today. The song Lady Gaga named herself after. It's a cool song too. I love its new wave sound. The 1980's is like a bottomless ocean of good songs. Just when I think I heard it all, I find another gem I never heard before.

Both good songs.


Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
 
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