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And again, over the week-end, I have turned to Derek Robinson, and his RAF Quartet set during and after the Second World War. The book I am currently reading is called 'Damned Good Show' and is about a Bomber Squadron during the first few years of World War 2.
 

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Went into Waterstones this afternoon, first time in ages. Felt like falling in love with physical books again, couldn't stop smelling them! Been using Kindle for a couple of years now. Nearly (almost) bought a signed copy of Antony Beevor's "Ardennes 1944: Hitler's Last Gamble" but at £25 thought it too expensive. I have however ordered tonight "The Impending Crisis, 1848-61" by David M Potter. This was recommended here somewhere, @Scepticalscribe, think you've mentioned it before?
 

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Went into Waterstones this afternoon, first time in ages. Felt like falling in love with physical books again, couldn't stop smelling them! Been using Kindle for a couple of years now. Nearly (almost) bought a signed copy of Antony Beevor's "Ardennes 1944: Hitler's Last Gamble" but at £25 thought it too expensive. I have however ordered tonight "The Impending Crisis, 1848-61" by David M Potter. This was recommended here somewhere, @Scepticalscribe, think you've mentioned it before?

Yes. I have, as have others.

As it happens, it was recommended on this very thread to me, (by @BasicGreatGuy, if memory serves) and thus, I ordered it, received it, and will sit down and curl up with it some evening fairly soon.
 
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Mind you, @Medz1, I'd buy an autographed copy of a book I am interested in reading, even if it costs a bit extra; it is something always well worth having, and is something you can sell, later on, should the need to do so arise.
 

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Mind you, @Medz1, I'd buy an autographed copy of a book I am interested in reading, even if it costs a bit extra; it is something always well worth having, and is something you can sell, later on, should the need to do so arise.

Yeah, maybe I should of bought it. Too late now as I was on a trip. Never mind. I do have a signed copy of Giles Milton's "Nathaniel's Nutmeg" but that's about it.
 
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Yeah, maybe I should of bought it. Too late now as I was on a trip. Never mind. I do have a signed copy of Giles Milton's "Nathaniel's Nutmeg" but that's about it.

I'll only buy a signed copy if I actually want to buy and read the book, irrespective of whether or not the author has signed it. This means that i won't buy a signed copy if the books and author are of little interest to me, even if a signed copy of the book is available.

However, when a book I am interested in reading is also signed, I'll almost always buy it, if opportunity permits.
 

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I am thoroughly enjoying "A Wolf Called Romeo" by Nick Jans. It is the story of the interaction of a very unusual wolf with the residents of Juneau, Alaska and their pets. I am always a sucker for true dog, or in this case, wolf stories. And having visited the Mendenhall Glacier area near Juneau where this wolf hung out, makes it even nicer as I can picture scenic area as I read.
 

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I am thoroughly enjoying "A Wolf Called Romeo" by Nick Jans. It is the story of the interaction of a very unusual wolf with the residents of Juneau, Alaska and their pets. I am always a sucker for true dog, or in this case, wolf stories. And having visited the Mendenhall Glacier area near Juneau where this wolf hung out, makes it even nicer as I can picture scenic area as I read.

Sounds rather interesting. Do you recommend it?
 

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Mind you, @Medz1, I'd buy an autographed copy of a book I am interested in reading, even if it costs a bit extra; it is something always well worth having, and is something you can sell, later on, should the need to do so arise.

When I read this, I laughed! Certainly not because I'd be amused if having to sell books for what to eat. It's that I've just run into a writer's take on that situation, in a memoir.

I've begun reading Amoz Oz' A Tale of Love and Darkness, set during his childhood, from the time of a British-controlled Jerusalem up through the early 1950s. He made a situation with books vs. something to eat seem almost comical, probably not least because his mother at least then seemed to set stock in being able to find and value the humor of life, no matter what.

If once or twice it happened that there was not enough money to buy food for Shabbat, my mother would look at Father, and Father would understand that the moment had come to make a sacrifice, and turn to the bookcase. He was an ethical man, and he knew that bread takes precedence over books and that the good of the child takes precedence over everything.
Presumably then his dad would surrender the selected books for cash and come home with the necessary foodstuffs. Apparently it didn't always work out that way!

Father would generally return an hour or two later, without the books, laden with brown paper bags containing bread, eggs, cheese, occasionally even a can of corned beef. But sometimes he would come back from the sacrifice with a broad smile on his face, without his beloved books but also without anything to eat: he had indeed sold his books, but had immediately bought other books to take their place, because he had found such wonderful treasures in the secondhand bookshop, the kind of opportunity you encounter only once in a lifetime, and he had been unable to control himself. My mother forgave him, and so did I, because I hardly ever felt like eating anything except sweet corn and ice cream. I loathed omelettes and corned beef...
The book is hardly light reading, as one should be forwarned by just the title. I'm happy that I bumped into it, but of course it's hardly a typical "summer read" and how could it be, given the times. So I'm just picking it up now and then to read a few more chapters.

I must say the rest of my "summer read" this year, which is a deep dive into Egypt and elsewhere in North Africa (and so necessarily into French colonial history and its aftermath unto this day in France itself) has hardly turned out to be a light read either. I'm learning a lot and enjoying most of it -- in small doses-- but I'm spending more time in my studio with fabrics and assorted UFOs (unfinished objects) than I usually do of a summer.

However, I've been particularly taken by two books set in Alexandria as it trembled before its fall to Arab nationalism after Farouk's reign ended and Nasser rose to power:

Out of Egypt, André Aciman (memoir of the twilight of Alexandria’s cosmopolitan era)

Alexandrian Summer, Yitzhak Gormezano Goren (novel based on memory of that time)

These two authors lived on the same street in Alexandria, although they did not know each other then. The elder of them has written the introduction to the younger's novel. One was just born when the other’s family had decided to leave Egypt ahead of the Suez War and the even more dangerous times that lay ahead for Alexandria’s British, French, Jewish and even Egyptian Christian residents.

There was a long, erratic twilight between the mid-50s and 1967, but because of its long history with so many cultures, the Alexandria of everyone speaking seven languages (and casually observing or desecrating the same Sabbath elbow to elbow in different rituals) tottered along on its business connections and old habits for much of that time.

Egypt’s defeat in the Six Day War resulted in Nasser’s fury and the expulsion of almost all non-Arabs from Egypt, including not just Europeans but the descendents of Jews who had lived along the Nile for centuries, along with some Egyptian Christians. The younger author’s family was expelled during that time, as night fell on Alexandria’s multicultural history.

I have really enjoyed these two books, but it's infuriating to think how our seeming inability as humans, to both acknowledge and shrug at our different tribal ways, does keep tearing at the tapestries of our lives together. I suppose our memoirs of such struggles are written partly in the hope the next generations may sometime elect to read them and refrain from having another go at cooking from a very terrible recipe while expecting different results.

Anyway these two books catch the bittersweet languor and complexity of a now long gone Alexandrian era pretty well. You can almost feel the breeze off the sea and hear the buzz of polyglot gossip. In that respect at least, I appreciate their having landed in my summer reading.
 

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When I read this, I laughed! Certainly not because I'd be amused if having to sell books for what to eat. It's that I've just run into a writer's take on that situation, in a memoir.

I've begun reading Amoz Oz' A Tale of Love and Darkness, set during his childhood, from the time of a British-controlled Jerusalem up through the early 1950s. He made a situation with books vs. something to eat seem almost comical, probably not least because his mother at least then seemed to set stock in being able to find and value the humor of life, no matter what.

If once or twice it happened that there was not enough money to buy food for Shabbat, my mother would look at Father, and Father would understand that the moment had come to make a sacrifice, and turn to the bookcase. He was an ethical man, and he knew that bread takes precedence over books and that the good of the child takes precedence over everything.
Presumably then his dad would surrender the selected books for cash and come home with the necessary foodstuffs. Apparently it didn't always work out that way!

Father would generally return an hour or two later, without the books, laden with brown paper bags containing bread, eggs, cheese, occasionally even a can of corned beef. But sometimes he would come back from the sacrifice with a broad smile on his face, without his beloved books but also without anything to eat: he had indeed sold his books, but had immediately bought other books to take their place, because he had found such wonderful treasures in the secondhand bookshop, the kind of opportunity you encounter only once in a lifetime, and he had been unable to control himself. My mother forgave him, and so did I, because I hardly ever felt like eating anything except sweet corn and ice cream. I loathed omelettes and corned beef...
The book is hardly light reading, as one should be forwarned by just the title. I'm happy that I bumped into it, but of course it's hardly a typical "summer read" and how could it be, given the times. So I'm just picking it up now and then to read a few more chapters.

I must say the rest of my "summer read" this year, which is a deep dive into Egypt and elsewhere in North Africa (and so necessarily into French colonial history and its aftermath unto this day in France itself) has hardly turned out to be a light read either. I'm learning a lot and enjoying most of it -- in small doses-- but I'm spending more time in my studio with fabrics and assorted UFOs (unfinished objects) than I usually do of a summer.

However, I've been particularly taken by two books set in Alexandria as it trembled before its fall to Arab nationalism after Farouk's reign ended and Nasser rose to power:

Out of Egypt, André Aciman (memoir of the twilight of Alexandria’s cosmopolitan era)

Alexandrian Summer, Yitzhak Gormezano Goren (novel based on memory of that time)

These two authors lived on the same street in Alexandria, although they did not know each other then. The elder of them has written the introduction to the younger's novel. One was just born when the other’s family had decided to leave Egypt ahead of the Suez War and the even more dangerous times that lay ahead for Alexandria’s British, French, Jewish and even Egyptian Christian residents.

There was a long, erratic twilight between the mid-50s and 1967, but because of its long history with so many cultures, the Alexandria of everyone speaking seven languages (and casually observing or desecrating the same Sabbath elbow to elbow in different rituals) tottered along on its business connections and old habits for much of that time.

Egypt’s defeat in the Six Day War resulted in Nasser’s fury and the expulsion of almost all non-Arabs from Egypt, including not just Europeans but the descendents of Jews who had lived along the Nile for centuries, along with some Egyptian Christians. The younger author’s family was expelled during that time, as night fell on Alexandria’s multicultural history.

I have really enjoyed these two books, but it's infuriating to think how our seeming inability as humans, to both acknowledge and shrug at our different tribal ways, does keep tearing at the tapestries of our lives together. I suppose our memoirs of such struggles are written partly in the hope the next generations may sometime elect to read them and refrain from having another go at cooking from a very terrible recipe while expecting different results.

Anyway these two books catch the bittersweet languor and complexity of a now long gone Alexandrian era pretty well. You can almost feel the breeze off the sea and hear the buzz of polyglot gossip. In that respect at least, I appreciate their having landed in my summer reading.


Sounds like fascinating reading material.

'Tearing at the tapestries of our lives together' - interwoven lives that have spanned centuries? Sigh. But yes, I agree completely with you.

Over the past twenty years, on and off, I have spent a fair bit of time in the former Yugoslavia, and what was allowed to happen in Sarajevo, a genuinely multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, cosmopolitan, sophisticated urban (and urbane) space was a colossal tragedy.

There are places on the Black Sea which had similar histories, before the monomaniacal ideal of mono-cultural identity was allowed to take hold. And indeed, parts of the Middle east, Lebanon comes to kind, were once also, a cultural mixing pot, and all the better for it.

On the extraordinary history of the Black Sea, I strongly recommend Neal Ascherson's superb book, - which goes by the title - 'Black Sea' - for an elegantly written, subtle and engaging
account of the world of that region; much of the narrative deals with such issues.


Yes I certainly recommend it to anyone who is interested in wildlife. It is well written and you will come away with a new appreciation of wolves and probably less appreciation of man as a steward of the environment.

Thanks very much for the recommendation. I'll keep an eye out for it.
 

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On the extraordinary history of the Black Sea, I strongly recommend Neal Ascherson's superb book, - which goes by the title - 'Black Sea' - for an elegantly written, subtle and engaging account of the world of that region; much of the narrative deals with such issues.

I'm going to expand my reading list again, thanks.

For awhile after I started my original summer list I was pretty focused on Egypt. Somehow then I wandered into Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria...

Then of course I headed north to France (but via Andrew Hussey's The French Intifada -- now there's a controversial book, even past the idea of a Brit writing French colonial history) and then back into southern Algeria, finally back to Egypt for some more recent and non-Eurocentric history. It's tricky to know if I've actually rounded up the latter although I stuck several books on my list; many Egyptians writing in English have acquired their education elsewhere, and who knows what viewpoints they've adopted rather than synthesized.

Meanwhile maybe it's time for the beach! Black Sea sounds perfect but I'm not expecting a beach read considering how we got to your recommendation.

I'm going to stop off on Corfu and on Cyprus first, via two of Durrell's works while he lived there. I also wanted to re-read the novels of the Alexandria Quartet to wrap up the summer, figuring I'd see Durrell's writing with different eyes after my summer reading, but the snow will fly before I ever get there, so I'll stick with his Bitter Lemons (1957) and Prospero’s Cell (1945).
 

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I'm going to expand my reading list again, thanks.

For awhile after I started my original summer list I was pretty focused on Egypt. Somehow then I wandered into Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria...

Then of course I headed north to France (but via Andrew Hussey's The French Intifada -- now there's a controversial book, even past the idea of a Brit writing French colonial history) and then back into southern Algeria, finally back to Egypt for some more recent and non-Eurocentric history. It's tricky to know if I've actually rounded up the latter although I stuck several books on my list; many Egyptians writing in English have acquired their education elsewhere, and who knows what viewpoints they've adopted rather than synthesized.

Meanwhile maybe it's time for the beach! Black Sea sounds perfect but I'm not expecting a beach read considering how we got to your recommendation.

I'm going to stop off on Corfu and on Cyprus first, via two of Durrell's works while he lived there. I also wanted to re-read the novels of the Alexandria Quartet to wrap up the summer, figuring I'd see Durrell's writing with different eyes after my summer reading, but the snow will fly before I ever get there, so I'll stick with his Bitter Lemons (1957) and Prospero’s Cell (1945).

Ah.

Now, Laurence Durrell's 'Alexandria Quartet' is one of those collections that I never managed to finish reading; I started it a coups of decades ago, deep in postgrad days, looking for a break, and found it a series you trudged through, rather than delighted in.

Re Neal Ascherson, well, all I can say is that he is one of my very favourite writers. Actually, he writes about politics, history and culture with an element of empathy, I'd call it almost simpatico, an eye for the absurd, the human and a touch of wit; it is all underpinned with vast knowledge and extraordinary understanding. In fact, he is one of the few British writers (he identifies as Scottish) on the old 'eastern European' (German/Polish) beat who combines wit, historical understanding, a first rate mind and a liberal sensibility. At his best, he writes like a poet; I love his stuff.

While I wouldn't exactly call 'Black Sea' a beach read, it is a book that you can immerse yourself in and lose yourself in over a glass or two of wine. Moreover, it is one of those books I give as a gift to people I rate. Actually, I have lost count of how often I have ordered it for myself, so often have I given it away. I think
you'll enjoy it.


 
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My copy of Black Sea is on its way to me!

Meanwhile I've dipped into Ari Berman's Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America.

It's no beach read either, but it's fascinating. The index alone is worth the price of the book, and hitting the names and references brings back a lot of memories of the 60s. So much work to be done yet, and in some cases done over, sadly.

But August is almost slipping into September and I actually have a couple of somewhat lighter reads waiting for me, one is something called... fishing around for the thing.... not a beach read, but...

Yes here it is, titled The Coffee Trader, a novel by David Liss. Not necessarily light but at least it's fiction!

And finally something just for fun, Ovidia Yu's Aunty Lee's Delights: A Singaporean Mystery. I mean for a summer read, I can't go far wrong with a book about spicy foods cooked by an old lady fascinated by TV news of suicides or murders! Even has a recipe for spicy refrigerator pickles in the back; this is the way to my heart.
 

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My copy of Black Sea is on its way to me!

Meanwhile I've dipped into Ari Berman's Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America.

It's no beach read either, but it's fascinating. The index alone is worth the price of the book, and hitting the names and references brings back a lot of memories of the 60s. So much work to be done yet, and in some cases done over, sadly.

But August is almost slipping into September and I actually have a couple of somewhat lighter reads waiting for me, one is something called... fishing around for the thing.... not a beach read, but...

Yes here it is, titled The Coffee Trader, a novel by David Liss. Not necessarily light but at least it's fiction!

And finally something just for fun, Ovidia Yu's Aunty Lee's Delights: A Singaporean Mystery. I mean for a summer read, I can't go far wrong with a book about spicy foods cooked by an old lady fascinated by TV news of suicides or murders! Even has a recipe for spicy refrigerator pickles in the back; this is the way to my heart.

Spicy refrigerator pickles! That sounds interesting. Can you share the recipe with us?
 
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^^ Well that would probably exceed the “fair use” of quotes from the book, I think. :) But you can find recipes online -- look for Peranakan Achar or Singapore Achar. Some of my extended family is from Penang so we make it just slightly differently, but the same idea. The pickles keep well but who knows how long really; they vanish in short order.

Of course Ovidia Yu is offering this recipe as if from Aunty Lee, the news junkie and mystery solver, so her instructions in the How to Prepare section of the achar recipe start with this: “Turn on your radio or television and turn off your phone...” :D
 
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My copy of Black Sea is on its way to me!

Meanwhile I've dipped into Ari Berman's Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America.

It's no beach read either, but it's fascinating. The index alone is worth the price of the book, and hitting the names and references brings back a lot of memories of the 60s. So much work to be done yet, and in some cases done over, sadly.

But August is almost slipping into September and I actually have a couple of somewhat lighter reads waiting for me, one is something called... fishing around for the thing.... not a beach read, but...

Yes here it is, titled The Coffee Trader, a novel by David Liss. Not necessarily light but at least it's fiction!

And finally something just for fun, Ovidia Yu's Aunty Lee's Delights: A Singaporean Mystery. I mean for a summer read, I can't go far wrong with a book about spicy foods cooked by an old lady fascinated by TV news of suicides or murders! Even has a recipe for spicy refrigerator pickles in the back; this is the way to my heart.

I'm delighted that 'Black Sea' is on its way; I think you'll enjoy it. Ari Berman's book strikes me as interesting, while Ovidia Yu's seems interesting.
 

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I'm going to stop off on Corfu and on Cyprus first, via two of Durrell's works while he lived there. I also wanted to re-read the novels of the Alexandria Quartet to wrap up the summer, figuring I'd see Durrell's writing with different eyes after my summer reading, but the snow will fly before I ever get there, so I'll stick with his Bitter Lemons (1957) and Prospero’s Cell (1945).

Thanks so much for this reminder! I've read his Reflections on a Marine Venus, but not the others and have meant to. :)

And it's probably time to reread his brother's memoir of Corfu, My Family & Other Animals.
 
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Thanks so much for this reminder! I've read his Reflections on a Marine Venus, but not the others and have meant to. :)

And it's probably time to reread his brother's memoir of Corfu, My Family & Other Animals.

I must say that I always enjoyed Gerald Durrell's books; he was a most engaging writer, and was a wonderful introduction to the natural world for an enthusiastic youngster. 'My Family and Other Animals' is justly regarded as a classic.
 
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Thanks so much for this reminder! I've read his Reflections on a Marine Venus, but not the others and have meant to. :)

And it's probably time to reread his brother's memoir of Corfu, My Family & Other Animals.

I must say that I always enjoyed Gerald Durrell's books; he was a most engaging writer, and was a wonderful introduction to the natural world for an enthusiastic youngster. 'My Family and Other Animals' is justly regarded as a classic.
I am currently engrossed in George Orwell's 1984 while also enjoying a nice glass of homemade Caffe Fredo.

An excellent book, which enjoys a well-merited status as a classic.

To my mind, 'Animal Farm' is outstanding, too.
 
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I must say that I always enjoyed Gerald Durrell's books; he was a most engaging writer, and was a wonderful introduction to the natural world for an enthusiastic youngster. 'My Family and Other Animals' is justly regarded as a classic.


An excellent book, which enjoys a well-merited status as a classic.

To my mind, 'Animal Farm' is outstanding, too.
Animal Farm is actually the next book on my list! LOL
 

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Animal Farm is actually the next book on my list! LOL

Animal Farm is one of those rare books which is both an outstanding work of literature - a classic and peerless masterpiece of English language prose, where the prose - the form of the actual writing are superlative, - and a first rate work of political insight and philosophical analysis.
 
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I just finished Terry Goodkind's Wizard's First Rule, primarily based on seeing bits and pieces of Legend of the Seeker. I started Stone of Tears, but I'm wondering if it's worth reading the series. At some point I stopped enjoying the Wheel of Time, and only finished so I can say I did.

I was seriously tired of women rustling their skirts and pulling their hair. Although that made for an awesome drinking game.
 

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I just finished Terry Goodkind's Wizard's First Rule, primarily based on seeing bits and pieces of Legend of the Seeker. I started Stone of Tears, but I'm wondering if it's worth reading the series. At some point I stopped enjoying the Wheel of Time, and only finished so I can say I did.

I was seriously tired of women rustling their skirts and pulling their hair. Although that made for an awesome drinking game.

What do you prefer to see women doing in fantasy writing?

However, honesty compels me to admit that I, too, never managed to complete Robert Jordan's work, this was endurance reading, not reading for pleasure. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that Robert Jordan was most fortunate that Brandon Sanderson (a far better writer) was persuaded to step up and bring the series home.
 
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