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Last night as I was searching for something to watch, (After my Kenneth Clark Civilisation marathon) I came across this 1965 Documentary based on The Guns of August. A bit dated, but a decent use of lots of archival footage that I had never seen before.
Worth a look. :)

How did you enjoy re-visiting Kenneth Clark's "Civilisation"?

My mother loved that series when it was first broadcast, so much so, that she bought the fat hardback which was published subsequently to accompany the series.

Over the Christmas holidays of my last year at school, - those dead days after the New Year before school re-opened - before university - I read it and was enthralled; what helped hugely was having been able to visit - and thus, visualise - a few of the places he had written about - such as having had the privilege of being able to visit both the basilica of St Denis in Paris, and the "Lion and the Unicorn" series of tapestries in the Cluny museum.
 
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How did you enjoy re-vvsiting Kenneth Clark's "Civilisation".
I rather did enjoy it. Almost guiltily as the overarching idea can be seen as a bit outdated and not altogether PC… But then again it is titled Civilisation: A Personal View.

Kenneth Clark is a very engaging presenter/companion. And lovely judicious use of music. Not the constant droning on in the background we have these days. Whatever happened to silence?

Personally I much prefer him to what is sometimes shown on BBC. (I'm not even talking about what ITV seem to think passes as cultural documentary.) Take the current "Buddy road trip" with Janina Ramirez (Who I don't mind usually) and the irritating Alastair Sooke. Reason why last night I ended up searching YouTube. 10 minutes of Art Lovers' Guide to Barcelona had me switch off.
It is all so funny. So quirky music. So busy… So arch. So ironic. So witty… so empty.
Famous Five go to Barcelona.

I do acknowledge though this is me growing old. Information being presented to me as if it were the latest-greatest-bestest-idea-evah. Little chunks of Tweetable, shareable gobbets of fluff.

But I digress!
My mother loved that series when it was first broadcast, so much so, that she bought the fat hardback which was published subsequently to accompany.
Haha. I am hunting down a decent 1st edition on eBay and AbeBooks.

what helped hugely was having been able to visit - and the visualise - a few of the places he had written about - such as having had the privilege of being able to visit both the basilica of St Denis in Paris, and the "Lion and the Unicorn" series of tapestries in the Cluny museum.
Oh yes, seeing these objects, places first hand is why I love travel, and why I cannot understand people who just have no curiousity about "going other places".
The other day — OK, I fib, a couple months ago, a woman told me she doesn't like travelling to new places "Because I might not like it." Aaaaaaargh!!!!

/grumpyoldmanmode
 
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I rather did enjoy it. Almost guiltily as the overarching idea can be seen as a bit outdated and not altogether PC… But then again it is titled Civilisation: A Personal View.

Kenneth Clark is a very engaging presenter/companion. And lovely judicious use of music. Not the constant droning on in the background we have these days. Whatever happened to silence?

Personally I much prefer him to what is sometimes shown on BBC. (I'm not even talking about what ITV seem to think passes as cultural documentary.) Take the current "Buddy road trip" with Janina Ramirez (Who I don't mind usually) and the irritating Alastair Sooke. Reason why last night I ended up searching YouTube. 10 minutes of Art Lovers' Guide to Barcelona had me switch off.
It is all so funny. So quirky music. So busy… So arch. So ironic. So witty… so empty.
Famous Five go to Barcelona.

I do acknowledge though this is me growing old. Information being presented to me as if it were the latest-greatest-bestest-idea-evah. Little chunks of Tweetable, shareable gobbets of fluff.

But I digress!

Haha. I am hunting down a decent 1st edition on eBay and AbeBooks.


Oh yes, seeing these objects, places first hand is why I love travel, and why I cannot understand people who just have no curiousity about "going other places".
The other day — OK, I fib, a couple months ago, a woman told me she doesn't like travelling to new places "Because I might not like it." Aaaaaaargh!!!!

/grumpyoldmanmode

My first visit to France - an exchange arranged by my mother - occurred when I was a teenager and it was a transformational epiphany for me. The French family that my mother had befriended were cultured - but neither pretentious nor snobbish about it - open, warm, welcoming and genuinely delighted that I fell in love with their world, language and culture.

They lived (and still live) in the centre of Paris, and the grandfather of the family was a well known cinema critic, a friend of René Clair's (whose biography he wrote), a founder member of the Cannes Film Festival, a personal friend of Marc Chagall (whose portrait of the grandfather still hangs, casually, - one work of art among many - on the walls of their flat in the Île de la Cité - or, it did, when I last visited them in 2013), and brought me to some of the most incredible places I had seen in my life until then.

I remember my stunned delight when I picked up Kenneth Clarke's book, realising - awestruck - that I had actually visited some of the legendary places he wrote about.

The book is beautifully produced - we still have it, and - now that you have written about it, I must re-visit it. And yes, while it is undoubtedly of its time, it is also a homage to what Kenneth Clarke has argued is 'western culture'.

A fascinating footnote, (as an illustration of the sheer breadth of his intellectual interests, and his passion for the concept of 'public service' as expressed - in this instance - by broadcasting) is the fact that David Attenborough - then Controller of Programmes on BBC2 - commissioned both "Civilisation" (with the generous budgets for the era), and the magisterial "The Ascent of Man" by Jacob Bronowski. (I have that book, as well).

Agree about much modern stuff: There is a way of rendering the material interesting and entertaining without making your treatment trite or silly.

Mary Beard has cracked this - her enthusiasm, learning and love of her subject matter - and the sheer fun she has telling you about it - are infectious. While I really like the woman and her politics, I also love her writing: Actually, she is a damned good writer too, and her book "SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome" is brilliant.
 
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My first visit to France - an exchange arranged by my mother - occurred when I was a teenager and it was a transformational epiphany for me. The French family that my mother had befriended were cultured - but neither pretentious nor snobbish about it - open, welcoming and genuinely delighted that I fell in love with their world, language and culture.

They lived (and still live) in the centre of Paris, and the grandfather of the family was a well known cinema critic, a friend of René Clair's (whose biography he wrote), a founder member of the Cannes Film Festival, a personal friend of Marc Chagall (whose portrait of the grandfather still hangs, casually, - one work of art among many - on the walls of their flat in the Île de la Cité - or, it did, when I last visited them in 2013), and brought me to some of the most incredible places I had seen in my life until then.
You are most definitely very fortunate. Many other exchange students ended up in far more bourgeois accommodation. Still… we made do. :)

A fascinating footnote, (as an illustration of the sheer breadth of his intellectual interests) is the fact that David Attenborough - then Controller of Programmes on BBC2 - commissioned both "Civilisation" (with generous budget for the era), and the magisterial "The Ascent of Man" by Jacob Bronwowski. (I have that book, as well).
Now that you mention it, yes! I noticed it the other evening right at the end of the credits.
David Attenborough is one man I will not hear anything bad about. I think he is a great human being.

Ah, The Ascent of Man — now there's something special as well. Pops on to my list of TV series to revisit. Thanks for the reminder. (Oh, oh oh! And available on YouTube)

Mary Beard has cracked this - her enthusiasm, learning and love of her subject matter - and the sheer fun she has telling you about it - are infectious. While I really like the woman and her politics, I also love her writing: Actually, she is a damned good writer too, and her book "SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome" is brilliant.
Agreed. The book that typifies her for me is "Laughter in Ancient Rome". And I can think of no other author who could do the subject any better justice.
 
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I've been reading/browsing the blog for a few days and will be ordering the book soon.

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I've never been to Japan, so it's interesting reading about the peculiarities and things you probably would not read about on travel websites, specifically from the perspective of a 'westerner'.
 
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Now that you mention it, yes! I noticed it the other evening right at the end of the credits.
David Attenborough is one man I will not hear anything bad about. I think he is a great human being.

An amazing human being, absolutely agree with you; and he has made a number of outstanding programmes - or series - on material and matters that aren't natural history.

In the early 80s, I recall watching a stunning series he did (I had to look it up so that I could cite the actual title in this post) called The Spirit of Asia which explored the myths, cultures and religions of a number of Asian cultures. That was where I first learned of - indeed heard of - the Ramayana, for example. As with everything else he has done, it was brilliant, and beautifully put together.
 

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The Jersey Brothers by Sally Mott Freeman. A new release. It looked interesting. Read the sample on Kindle and decided to order the hardback version as it was only a few dollars more. Plus, the download size was over 70 MB. Clearly there's images in the book that are better viewed in print.
 

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Just finished "War of The Worlds". There were parts in the book that were tough to get through only because those parts did not hold my attention with either the dialogue or sequence of events that were taking place.

I could actually see more of the Spielberg's movie in the book than the 1953 version. Spielberg's movie was actually pretty close in terms of the martians and their vehicles along with the characters. Of course there were differences but overall he was pretty close to the book.

Next up:

Robert Ludlum's "The Scarlatti Inheritance". Just started it last night.

After that I am going to try and tackle "Dune".
 

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Just finished "War of The Worlds". There were parts in the book that were tough to get through only because those parts did not hold my attention with either the dialogue or sequence of events that were taking place.

I could actually see more of the Spielberg's movie in the book than the 1953 version. Spielberg's movie was actually pretty close in terms of the martians and their vehicles along with the characters. Of course there were differences but overall he was pretty close to the book.

Next up:

Robert Ludlum's "The Scarlatti Inheritance". Just started it last night.

After that I am going to try and tackle "Dune".

Rather than the movie (which I saw as a child), or the book, why not try out Jeff Wayne's musical version; the soundtrack is terrific - and he assembled an amazing cast (Richard Burton, Phil Lynott, Justin Hayward, David Essex, Julie Covington among others) to give voice to the various characters; it is brilliant.
 
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Recently finished 'Killers of the Flower Moon' which I highly recommend.

Just finished 'Seven Deadly Sins' about the Lance Armstrong insane lie-fest

Now reading 'Kidnapped' which is about a child kidnapping which took place in Sydney in 1960. Good book so far as it's a true crime and as I live in Sydney I can easily visualise the places mentioned.
 
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I've discovered a little gem of a book, courtesy of my sister. It's called "The Signature of All Things" by Elisabeth Gilbert. It's beautifully written. I'm only a third of a way through it but am really enjoying it.

The Signature of All Things https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1408841924/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_WEj.ybGXT4NEB
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Finished this this week and throughly enjoyed it and recommend it. Beautifully written. I urge anyone with a kindle to download "a sample". And anyone without a kindle just buy. Thanks you.

Now, back to Albert...
 

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Finally finished this. The first 9/10s convinced me it just wasn't worth continuing, and then right at the end it almost gets interesting. Putting the series on hold, though, as I much prefer the Dresden files series, and I have a few of those awaiting my time.
 

Mousse

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I stumbled up on a paperback at a 1/2 Price Books shop. I just had to get it, especially seeing how much people are charging for them.:rolleyes: $235 for a $6.50 (listed price) book?:eek:o_O A book about my favorite DS9 character and for a mere $3? Yarp, took me all of .000001 millisecond to make buy decision.:D
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It's the memoirs of everyone's favorite Cardassian tailor written by the actor who portrayed him on the show. I only started last night (10% of the way through), but a very good read. The way the writing style flows, if I had some free time, I could easily finish it in one sitting.

It contains a lot of spoilers for anyone who hasn't watched the entire Deep Space Nine series. It also contains info left blank in the show. I didn't know Glin/Gul/Legate Damar's (Gul/Legate Dukat's right hand man) first name was Corat.
 
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Spent several hours last night and this morning reading Gordon Martel's book; neither the Austrians (which was well known) nor the Germans (which was not quite as well known) come terribly well out of it.
 
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Hm. Fascinating.

Must admit that I'm curious to see what you think of this work; while I don't doubt that it will make a most interesting and possibly thought-provoking read, equally, I wouldn't always regard Yanis Varoufakis as the most objective or reliable of sources.

Personally, I've never been a huge fan of Varoufakis, mind you I'm also not a fan of the other players - Schauble, Dijsselbloem, Lagarde etc etc - I would imagine that they're not always the most objective or reliable sources either and the Eurogroup is hardly renowned for being open and transparent.

He does say in a note on quoted speech in the frontispiece:

To this end I have been able to draw on audio recordings I made on my phone, as well as on ones I made at the time, of many of the official meetings or conversations that appear in this book. Where my own recordings or notes are unavailable, I have relied on memory and, where possible, the corroboration of other witnesses.

I'll report back when I've finished. So far, its pretty damming...
 
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