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arkitect

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I rather fear I'm going to feel like that when, on this side of the pond, further memoirs emerge about the Trump administration... after the owner of that hot mess departs the office he occupies at present. I want to read those accounts. I want to live long enough to read them! But I fear sometimes that my anger while keeping up w/ current events will do me in.

The book about May sounds like a compelling read. Maybe being in and from the USA would lend me enough distance to read it with less emotional impact than you're experiencing. Still the decisions taken in both the UK and in the USA in the past few years may have put our two countries and the whole world in one, interestingly leaky boat. Interesting in the proverbial, "Chinese curse" sense of the times we live in.

More than enough said here I guess... except that this is why I turn to stuff like music to regain some of what passes for mental health in this household.

You sum up my feelings elegantly and succinctly. I often get lost in a mire of my own verbiage. :)

I am relying on Beethoven's String quartets lately.

During my younger days I was all about the symphonies. Nowadays… I find solace in these small ensemble pieces.
Enough Sturm und Drang in the world.
Shock horror! I have even started listening to less and less opera. Though each morning I start off with the Met's broadcast. I particularly enjoyed the wonderful Maria Stuarda the other day. Joyce Didonnato. Smashing! History that should have happened. Imagine Elizabeth R vs Mary R meeting in real life and not just in Schiller's drama.


And yet, the current administration may turn out to be even worse.

Sounds a fascinating - if deeply frustrating - read.

Mrs May always struck me as being on of those people who, when offered a choice between the "the right option", "the less right option" and "the catastrophically wrong option" inevitably and invariably, with unerring precision, chose the latter. Always.

And - however ominous her advisers - she also seemed to me to be someone who did not appear capable of listening to advice. Or, rather, advice from sources she preferred not to have to hear, or listen to.
She did not listen to anyone… apart from her pro-EU husband and her two anti-EU close advisors (and she trusted them because they told her "we can make you PM" years before 2016. They did. So she did. No one else… until it was far far too late.

is the book seriously biased pro/anti May, or is the rage due to your own interpretation of a factual book? While some bias is inevitable, I don't want to read a book that is either hagiographic or just a rant.
Oh no, it is fairly even handed. I have read his previous books and he gives it warts and all… as far as I know.
I could explain why I am angry, but… that is for PRSI. :)

BTW. Did you ever see John Adams' opera "Nixon in China"?
To each his own buy me thinks you display your politics.
Of course it does! ?
 
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Scepticalscribe

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She did not listen to anyone… apart from her pro-EU husband and her two anti-EU close advisors (and she trusted them because they told her "we can make you PM" years before 2016. They did. So she did. No one else… until it was far far too late.


Oh no, it is fairly even handed. I have read his previous books and he gives it warts and all… as far as I know.
I could explain why I am angry, but… that is for PRSI. :)

I gather that she was pretty much a nightmare to negotiate with.

Oh no, it is fairly even handed. I have read his previous books and he gives it warts and all… as far as I know.
I could explain why I am angry, but… that is for PRSI. :)

BTW. Did you ever see John Adams' opera "Nixon in China"?

Of course it does! ?

I have the CD somewhere, I recall purchasing it twenty years ago having heard the piece on radio.......must listen to it anew.
 
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yaxomoxay

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Oh no, it is fairly even handed. I have read his previous books and he gives it warts and all… as far as I know.
I could explain why I am angry, but… that is for PRSI. :)

Thanks, added to the list! I must admit that British politics is fascinating.

BTW. Did you ever see John Adams' opera "Nixon in China"?

I only listened to it (bought a CD a few years back).
 

RootBeerMan

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Finished up "Powers of the Earth" (very good, even if it could have benefited greatly from a good proofreader and copy editor). If you liked Heinlein's "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress", you'll probably like this one. Now I'm moving on to an SF classic, "Next of Kin" by Eric Frank Russell. I loved his book, "Wasp" and am hoping for something just as good, but so far it's just OK.
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RootBeerMan

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I get tired of thinking that about a lot of books lately. The corner-cutting really shows.
Yeah, but I will kind of give the author a semi-pass on it, as he self published. Still, no real excuse to not get an editor involved. Lots of them out there that make a point of dealing with self publishers.
 
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LizKat

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Not a book but a nudge to read some particular books: bumped into a long profile of N.K.Jemisin in an issue of The New Yorker I had skimmed through earlier this year and was delving into again.


It's a long piece but I couldn't stop reading it and wanted it to keep going! Made me add to my list of speculative fiction I keep meaning to get into and never quite manage.

"This time I really mean it"...

Might start with her Broken Earth series

The Fifth Season (August 2015)​
The Obelisk Gate (August 2016)​
The Stone Sky (August 2017)​
 

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Not a book but a nudge to read some particular books: bumped into a long profile of N.K.Jemisin in an issue of The New Yorker I had skimmed through earlier this year and was delving into again.


It's a long piece but I couldn't stop reading it and wanted it to keep going! Made me add to my list of speculative fiction I keep meaning to get into and never quite manage.

"This time I really mean it"...

Might start with her Broken Earth series

The Fifth Season (August 2015)​
The Obelisk Gate (August 2016)​
The Stone Sky (August 2017)​

Terrific article, - and I couldn't stop reading it, either. Thanks for sharing.

Now, I know some of the books that shall be purchased in a bookstore post lockdown.....
 
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rhett7660

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Finished up "Powers of the Earth" (very good, even if it could have benefited greatly from a good proofreader and copy editor). If you liked Heinlein's "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress", you'll probably like this one. Now I'm moving on to an SF classic, "Next of Kin" by Eric Frank Russell. I loved his book, "Wasp" and am hoping for something just as good, but so far it's just OK.

I just read the snippet on what this book was about! It is now on my reading list! Call me super intrigued by this!
 

RootBeerMan

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I just read the snippet on what this book was about! It is now on my reading list! Call me super intrigued by this!
Next of Kin was alright, but clearly an SF book of its time. Wasp, however, is one of those books that have stood the test of time and is still very readable. A quick read, but very enjoyable!
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I bought this one when it came out and it was a great read! One that I have recommended to anyone who mentioned it. This book should be required reading in high schools.
 

LizKat

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Time to start scouting around for what to make of this summer's "deep dive" in reading for me. Every year I either reread a lot of some author's works or make a topical adventure out of something or other. I've been reading more poetry during this time of the coronavirus, and thinking now to make a summer of reading not only poetry in translation but some of the other writings of the translators (who often share bits of their approach to "what's lost in translation" in a lengthy foreword tailored to the particular author whose works they've spent months or years on).

Thought it would be fun to know more of what goes on behind the scenes with these multi-skilled writers, if I can find some of their memoirs, essays or even more collections where they've translated and annotated their concerns and decisions in footnotes. In reading translated works, it can sometimes be too easy to take labor for granted when the translations seem well done and the mechanics aren't showing. It's just that now and then --as when I bump into a negative criticism of some translated effort-- that I wonder how they ever managed to develop the nerve to translate even prose writers, never mind the works of poets.

Just now I've been reading some poems of the late Israeli poet Yehuda Amichai. In a foreword to an Amichai poetry collection that Robert Alter edited (including poems brought to English by a number of translators), the noted Hebrew-English scriptural translator addresses some of the concerns any translator has, and I suppose that may have been the crystal around my growing interest in making poetry translation issues a summer "deep dive" for me. Here is one of Amichai's poems that Robert Alter himself translated to English; it was published in The New Yorker in July of 2008, eight years after the poet had passed away.

Summer Evening By the Window with Psalms​
by Yehuda Amichai​
(translated, from the Hebrew, by Robert Alter)​
Close scrutiny of the past.​
How my soul yearns within me like those souls​
in the nineteenth century before the great wars,​
like curtains that want to pull free​
of the open window and fly.​
We console ourselves with short breaths,​
as, after running, we always recover.​
We want to reach death hale and hearty,​
like a murderer sentenced to death,​
wounded when he was caught,​
whose judges want him to heal before​
he’s brought to the gallows.​
I think, how many still waters​
can yield a single night of stillness​
and how many green pastures, wide as deserts,​
can yield the quiet of a single hour​
and how many valleys of the shadow of death do we need​
to be a compassionate shade in the unrelenting sun.​
I look out the window: a hundred and fifty​
psalms pass through the twilight,​
a hundred and fifty psalms, great and small.​
What a grand and glorious and transient fleet!​
I say: the window is God​
And the door is his prophet.​
 
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chengengaun

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Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism by Professors Anne Case and Angus Deaton (Princeton Univ. Press, 2020). There's significant emphasis on the role of healthcare in hastening the destruction of the working middle class. While other factors e.g. "glorification of bachelor's degree", withering of unions, churches and other institutions are discussed, these should be treated at greater lengths in comparison to the role of healthcare. In any case, it is a sobering read and a reminder that meritocracy is not an unalloyed good.
 

LizKat

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I'm looking for a good one on Catherine the Great.

Anyone got a rec?

I liked both of these: Robert Zaretsky's "Catherine & Diderot" and Robert K. Massie's "Catherine the Great: Portrait of a Woman". The former is fascinating, focused on historic meeting between Catherine and French philosopher Denis Diderot. But the Massie book is all about Catherine and conveys how amazing she and her eventual reign over Russia became, considering she was born to a 16-year-old mother as just another minor German princess. I bought that one on the strength of an NYT review and was not disappointed.

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pachyderm

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I liked both of these: Robert Zaretsky's "Catherine & Diderot" and Robert K. Massie's "Catherine the Great: Portrait of a Woman". The former is fascinating, focused on historic meeting between Catherine and French philosopher Denis Diderot. But the Massie book is all about Catherine and conveys how amazing she and her eventual reign over Russia became, considering she was born to a 16-year-old mother as just another minor German princess. I bought that one on the strength of an NYT review and was not disappointed.


@Scepticalscribe ..?
 
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In this instance, I'd happily allow myself to be guided by @LizKat.

Actually, academically, and paradoxically, the eighteenth century is the only century (in the past eight centuries!) that I have not taught at university - experts were always available to teach it (unlike say, medieval or Renaissance & Reformation history where I did a lot of very interesting journeyman teaching for years, whereas my own areas were 19th-20th century European history).

If asked to recommend either of these two works, I cannot offer a recommendation with any authority or knowledge, as I have read neither, but I would be fascinated and intrigued to investigate the Massie book further.

People approach books differently, but, when I was exploring the history of central & eastern Europe (or, even Renaissance topics, such as the endlessly fascinating history of the wool trade in England during the Middle Ages), in other words, if I am reading material, or stuff on topics I don't already know all that much about, I will very often read two or three books on that topic, or closely related and over-lapping topics, more or less simultaneously, so that one particular perspective or slant does not influence me excessively.
 
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RootBeerMan

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After a meh alt history book I need an amusing and snarky SF classic. "Bill, The Galactic Hero", by the great Harry Harrison.
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pachyderm

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In this instance, I'd happily allow myself to be guided by @LizKat.

Actually, academically, and paradoxically, the eighteenth century is the only century (in the past eight centuries!) that I have not taught at university - experts were always available to teach it (unlike say, medieval or Renaissance & Reformation history where I did a lot of very interesting journeyman teaching for years, whereas my own areas were 19th-20th century European history).

If asked to recommend either of these two works, I cannot offer a recommendation with any authority or knowledge, as I have read neither, but I would be fascinated and intrigued to investigate the Massie book further.

People approach books differently, but, when I was exploring the history of central & eastern Europe (or, even Renaissance topics, such as the endlessly fascinating history of the wool trade in England during the Middle Ages), in other words, if I am reading material, or stuff on topics I don't already know all that much about, I will very often read two or three books on that topic, or closely related and over-lapping topics, more or less simultaneously, so that one particular perspective or slant does not influence me excessively.
@LizKat and my old college roomie both mentioned the Massie tome. So I will seek out that one.
And one by Robert Cronin...
Cheers to all involved !!
 

LizKat

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Today I started scouting around to expand on my initial idea for this summer's "deep dive" reading... and while I'm still very taken by a focus on the art of translation, I can see it will blossom more readily if I don't limit the exploration to issues in the translation of poetry only. A lot of translators are themselves poets (which certainly makes sense to me), and most of those have translated at least some poetry, but a lot of what they end up translating by choice, happenstance or economic necessity is prose, whether fiction or nonfiction.

I'm already having fun with this idea, found a wonderful piece in the Guardian with remarks from six translators who've made me feel like I'm going to have a lot of fun this summer. I thought to concentrate on the issues as seen from standpoint of the translators, and indeed from that piece I've realized it might be harder to round up thoughts on the art of translation from the authors of translated manuscripts: they've usually long since moved on to their own next creations by time translation issues come up on a previous work. But the Guardian piece provides glimpses into how important the exchange of views between author and translator can be, when the author is still living and available for consultation.

 
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