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The biggest thing seems to be the True Tone display. I've yet to see one in person but people rave about it.
True Tone is one of those subtle things once you really get used to you can't live without. Other iPads look downright harsh in comparison.
 
Why are you so keen on Touch ID you realize that it is less safe than a 4-digit pin

but you do realize that a 4-digit-pin is not really court-proof either? i guess, most people don't lock their idevices because they are afraid of state hacking, getting incriminated in court or some other highly motivated hacker, but just to lock out their kids/colleagues/(not so)loved one or give potential thieves a hard time.

and even if they are, there's that good old xkcd-comic that tells you why it probably still doesn't matter:

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dont remember where I saw it but somewhere posted an updated ipad pencil patent that had touch rings around the surface of the pencil. This could be used for instance for brush size or zooming.
 
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1. I want a new iPad Pro and Apple Pencil that will allow a different method of charging.
2. Switch to USB-C.
3. Buttons on the Apple Pencil that can be mapped to applications or settings (favorite eraser or highlighter, for example)
 
It can be fooled. A court can force you to unlock with your finger print. But its much tougher to force you to give up a PIN.
Alex, get Real. No court is going to be able to get an order to force you to unlock a device before the (max) 24-hour period is up, where you're required to enter your PIN.

And if your seriously concerned about courts + finger prin, you have much bigger concerns than which iPad you should choose.
 
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If they did release an iPad Pro 2 (9.7) at WWDC would it be released then? Or do you think it's more plausible that a simultaneous iPhone 8 release in the fall with possible USB-C?
 
1. I want a new iPad Pro and Apple Pencil that will allow a different method of charging.
2. Switch to USB-C.
3. Buttons on the Apple Pencil that can be mapped to applications or settings (favorite eraser or highlighter, for example)

Only way I purchase a new iPad Pro (and none of this will happen) maybe in 2018

#1. A11X Quad Core CPU (because an A10X will have little benefit over the A9X)
#2. 4GB DDR4 RAM
#3. USB-C fast charging.
#4. 4K HDR OLED Display.
#5. They gave us Keyboard Use, now we need Full Mouse Capability let me pair a Bluetooth Mouse please.
#6. Bluetooth 5.0 (the Galaxy 8 has Bluetooth 5.0 if the 2017 iPAd Pro does not it's an instant pass)
 
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Alex, get Real. No court is going to be able to get an order to force you to unlock a device before the (max) 24-hour period is up, where you're required to enter your PIN.

And if your seriously concerned about courts + finger prin, you have much bigger concerns than which iPad you should choose.
Yeah in the meantime his cool smart tv and other devices hear everything ;)
 
Alex, get Real. No court is going to be able to get an order to force you to unlock a device before the (max) 24-hour period is up, where you're required to enter your PIN.

And if your seriously concerned about courts + finger prin, you have much bigger concerns than which iPad you should choose.


Ahh the time honored guilty until proven innocent. Since you have nothing to hide or protect. Please forward us all your Tax Returns, bank statements, medical records,and any business transactions, or sensitive work discussions.
 
This is true about Tru-Tone display being exclusive to the 9.7 iPad Pro. However, you mentioned you yet to see anybody rave about it. Where I have seen most seem to appreciate it, is if those who experience eyesight issues or eyestrain.

Mainly being the Pro has four ambient sensors that adapt to the color and intensity of the display in the environment in your in.

Rumor is, Tru-Tone display is allegedly going to make its way to the iPhone as well. I also assume it will be used across the iPad Pro line eventually.
Looks like someone can't read properly.

I'll be honest when I saw the 9.7" iPad Pro and all its features above and beyond that on the 12.9" I said to myself it's a must buy. The feature and value increase over the Air 2 was an order of magnitude. So now looms the iPad Pro 2.

Ignoring, a faster CPU and more RAM, which are by default a given.

Can we try and think of 1 or 2 features the 2017 iPad Pro 2 can possibly offer ?

There's not much the iPad Pro 2016 can do that even the iPad 2 can't do. This is the main issue with the iPad line. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of the software, which is causing the iPad Pro to be an 80% laptop replacement device with iOS.
 
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I compared different iPADs the other day in a store: iPad (April 2017), iPad Pro 12.9, iPad pro 9.7.

The biggest difference for me was the screen:
- iPAD spring 2017 (9.7): absence of screen coatings make reflexions look brutal in comparision. Very disturbing to me, specially when compared to the other 2:
- iPad pro 12.9: ok- reflectance of the screen, slightly cool-ish colors in comparision. Screen is big (nice) on one hand, but device is therefore quite heavy, specially for holding in one hand for more than a few seconds. Nice, but not the most convenient device...
- iPad pro 9.7: Once you saw the 12.9, the screen of that one looks tiny in comparision. The screen however is gorgeous: Lowest reflectivity of any tablet I have seen so far, it adds naturalness, by moments you forget looking at a glass surface. This is the standards all other manufacturers should try to achieve, but noone except Apple seems to try... TrueTone makes colours look nice and warmer, low reflectance make contrasts and colours pop more.

So the hopefully forthcoming iPad pro 10.5 with TrueTone, same low reflections and slightly larger screen and resolution (pixels) may be the ideal iPad for me. The 12.9 being slightly too large, heavy and cumbersome as a mobile device. If the new 12.9 also has narrow bezels and therefore smaller form factor and lower weight, it might be interesting. The current 12.9 is a bit too much for me. However if Apple releases the 10.5 (as described) in June and the iPAD pro 2 (12.9) in autumn, I may crack for the earlier device.

causing the iPad Pro to be an 80% laptop replacement device with iOS.

I'd rather put it: a 55% laptop replacement. Processor power alone is (almost) nothing. The OS is the main part. Speed is needed much less in 90% of all tasks.
 
Only way I purchase a new iPad Pro (and none of this will happen) maybe in 2018

#1. A11X Quad Core CPU (because an A10X will have little benefit over the A9X)
#2. 4GB DDR4 RAM
#3. USB-C fast charging.
#4. 4K HDR OLED Display.
#5. They gave us Keyboard Use, now we need Full Mouse Capability let me pair a Bluetooth Mouse please.
#6. Bluetooth 5.0 (the Galaxy 8 has Bluetooth 5.0 if the 2017 iPAd Pro does not it's an instant pass)

All that isn't coming this year. And maybe not next year either.

This thread is a fail because the iPad Pro 2 hasn't been announced and without that, you can speculate up the wazoo and it means nothing.

Another pointless thread from you...seems that's all you predominantly do now. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm only waiting to buy the next iPad Pro update because I currently own an iPad mini 2. Might as well wait and see what Apple does. I'm secretly hoping for an iPad mini Pro...but I seriously doubt that's gonna happen. If not, I will nab one of the rumored 10.5" bezel-less iPad pros.
 
Better display (OLED?), better battery life, and a 3D camera would be nice (for image modeling with depth). The last feature I don't really expect but you never know, Wacom has it on their MobileStudio tablets. Display would be the big one for me though, despite the resolution it's pretty marginal on iPad Pro. Inconsistent color temperature.
 
I think the new Pros could lose the headphone jack just because they may be waterproof. I would sacrifice the port for BT 5.0 and water resistance. At the end of the day, a work environment can be dusty and moist and I always get to worry about my tools.

Another thing (long shot, but let me :D ) they could add is a 3D camera to use the iPad for augmented reality. I would love an iPad that could scan the floor plan of a house just by walking inside it!
 
It can be fooled. A court can force you to unlock with your finger print. But its much tougher to force you to give up a PIN.

Inadmissible if "fooled" depending on quite a few variables if we are talking US courts, including if its not warranted by a judge. Now if you mean just not doing it against court orders then yes, its impossible for them to physically force you to give up a PIN vs holding you down and using your finger. Although there are a lot of gray areas the latter falls into.

But for the average consumer that wants security against more nefarious types Touch ID tends to be MORE secure because you SHOULD be using a long complicated passcode in place of the 4 digit. Counter to that and the most secure would be using ONLY a long complicated passcode. And by in large it has made iOS devices more secure as a whole because of its ease of use therefore more people are securing their devices.

And please no one post "I have nothing to hide", I hate that remark. Assuming you are in the US, its your right and you should protect it. That is like saying you don't care about the 1st amendment because you don't have anything good to say.....
 
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I think the new Pros could lose the headphone jack just because they may be waterproof. I would sacrifice the port for BT 5.0 and water resistance. At the end of the day, a work environment can be dusty and moist and I always get to worry about my tools.

Another thing (long shot, but let me :D ) they could add is a 3D camera to use the iPad for augmented reality. I would love an iPad that could scan the floor plan of a house just by walking inside it!
I'm sure most people here have never had an issue with Ipad and water...thats a waste of time..keep the headphone jack..no true reason not to.
 
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I'm sure most people here have never had an issue with Ipad and water...thats a waste of time..keep the headphone jack..no true reason not to.

Completely disagree. If they were water proof then they could be dishwasher safe. Now don't you feel silly?
 
If they did release an iPad Pro 2 (9.7) at WWDC would it be released then? Or do you think it's more plausible that a simultaneous iPhone 8 release in the fall with possible USB-C?
Why do you still think the 9.7" iPad Pro will continue to be in the flagship lineup? I have been saying since day one, almost a YEAR ago now that the 10.5" will replace the 9.7" in the iPad Pro lineup. I thought people had understood this by now, as many others have later said it too but clearly not. The 9.7" Pro may stay around as a low cost option, and may even get a spec bump but that's it.
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I think the new Pros could lose the headphone jack just because they may be waterproof. I would sacrifice the port for BT 5.0 and water resistance. At the end of the day, a work environment can be dusty and moist and I always get to worry about my tools.

Another thing (long shot, but let me :D ) they could add is a 3D camera to use the iPad for augmented reality. I would love an iPad that could scan the floor plan of a house just by walking inside it!
They are not losing the headphone jack this year, and I wouldn't be surprised if they kept it next year too.
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I would be tempted to buy if the rumored 10.5 inch with thinner bezels comes out. I would be even more tempted if it comes in Matte or Jet black with the fingerprint reader under the screen but that's probably hoping for too much for the next upgrade.
"If"? I still don't understand it when people don't believe anything until it's announced, but never mind. It will be released, and based off my information the bezels won't be as thin as you think. I think having it in matte black would be amazing, and while I would like a jet black model the scratches make it less appealing. I don't think we'll see jet black but I'm looking forward to a matte black iPad Pro.
 
Completely disagree. If they were water proof then they could be dishwasher safe. Now don't you feel silly?
Waterproof is a meaningless term without further specification.
Ip68 is waterproof for 30min in 1 ft of water.
But that is still standing water carefully lowered in with an equal temperature of 20c throughout the 30 minutes.

In a dishwasher everything gets at least 65C but often even 85C so air inside your device will expand and seals will leak a bit air out. No harm there, yet.
When the dishwasher starts to rinse with cold water a vacuum could occur inside the waterproof device, basically sucking water in, because the under pressure of a vacuum is easily much bigger then the pressure of 1ft of water.
So even your ip68 waterproof device might very well get damaged inside a dishwasher, even when there is just water sprayed on...

OTH wel all know iPads make great cutting boards, so if they where waterproof we could watch telly while chopping, even after it has been in the dishwasher!
 
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Waterproof is a meaningless term without further specification.
Ip68 is waterproof for 30min in 1 ft of water.
But that is still standing water carefully lowered in with an equal temperature of 20c throughout the 30 minutes.

In a dishwasher everything gets at least 65C but often even 85C so air inside your device will expand and seals will leak a bit air out. No harm there, yet.
When the dishwasher starts to rinse with cold water a vacuum could occur inside the waterproof device, basically sucking water in, because the under pressure of a vacuum is easily much bigger then the pressure of 1ft of water.
So even your ip68 waterproof device might very well get damaged inside a dishwasher, even when there is just water sprayed on...

Good to know! I'm so super rich I use iPads for dinner plates, and a iPad Pro for a charcuterie board.

BTW I'm being incredibly sarcastic. Laid on any thicker and we'd be smothered to death....
 
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