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The_Martini_Cat

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A bit sad that kitty and the kittens have -- just this moment! -- all been outfitted with Intel Macbook Airs, but ...they needed computers. As for moi, I just started rockin' a blue iPad Air with that keyboard and altho it's not a full-on Mac, that chip ... it is the knees of the bee. Otherwise I'd be typing this on an M1 Mac and not an Intel iMac.

Since I am a value buyer, I will wait and see. It's hard, tho! I could unplug the extra Dell monitor from the iMac, get a new M1 mini, and camp out in the kitchen with it? xCode compiles with avocado toast? My retina Macbook stopped accepting the upgrade with Catalina, but I always thought it was a bit big at 15 inches. I might go with a 14 inch if BTO gives a lot of TB in the SSD. But i think I'm going to be comfortable enough with cloud storage to have Apple One take up that slack & go out and get an M1X machine of some kind. I've never needed the Z level, but I like the idea that everything is going to happen within 280 days. All best && Cheers! ??
 

The_Martini_Cat

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Oops, 210 days. Forgot to mention ... will need more RAM than 16, must have at least 48 to commemorate my dear departed Apple ][ ??
 

ChrisA

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Jan 5, 2006
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I'm finding that most of my work (robotics software development) requires Linux. Seeing as I am in from of the Linux screen all day, I decided to look for productivity apps.

1) Video Editing - DaVinci Resolve. This is a full pro-level editor and color grading system that competes with FCPX and Adobe. There is a free version that runs on Linux. There is also a growth path that is suitable for Hollywood level work.
2) Libre Office, Looks and works pretty much like an older version of MS Office, similar feature set
3) 3D CAD. I use this a lot. Currently, I have to run Windows inside a VM on the Linux system and then Fusion360 inside Windows but I'm looking at OnShape because it can run with no Windows and no VM.
4) E-books, I have a lot of them, mostly technical stuff and academic papers in PDF. I was using Apple Books but now "Calibre". Caliber is dramatically more featured and can do quite a lot of organizing and conversion.

5) Photos -- It is easy to find a better solution than Apple Photos but after killing Apeture, Apple has set the bar very low. Just about anything is better. What I'm still looking for is a Linux solution that is on par with the Adobe Suite. Looking at Shotwell and Darktable. These might replace Adobe Lightroom

The above pretty much means I don't need a Mac. Except I will need a notebook size computer and Apple makes darn good hardware been if their software is kind of bare-bones. My plan is to buy an Apple Mac AFTER it can run all of the above software. My old mid-2012 MacPro can run all of the above and also Linux in a VM. When Apple Silicone macs can do this too I'll upgrade to the M2 or M3 or "whatever"
 
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FilmIndustryGuy

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May 12, 2015
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Maybe im spoiled but I currently use the MBP 16 and MB 12 2017. I also got 2, 32 inch LG ERGO 4k screens. The screens look great but the resolution sucks for text and it bothers me. I really really really like the idea of having a 12 inch laptop for moving around, 16 inch for bigger screen when around the house and having a larger screen with crisp everything. I tried the Mac mini route but hate the options for monitors so got rid of it.

My problem with all you guys saying you got the MBA and sold your 16 inch only to go back to 16 inch when it comes out is that what you really want is a 16 inch Apple silicone and now you are working with a cramped 13 inch.

I'm also tempted to get rid of both my Macs and get the MBA but I know in my bones that in 6 months ill feel pissed that I dont have the ideal travel laptop and dont have a large screen laptop either especially is a 12.5 comes out at 2 lb in mini LED.

Yes the 12 inch laptop isnt butter fast when jumping screens but it has the portability value and who will use a 12 inch screen to edit 8k videos anyways? this whole talk about value loss holding onto INTEL is getting people in panic mode but if the values are tanking currently, how much more will it tank when 16 inch is released?

Guys, convince me. If you had the 12 inch and 16 inch, is the transition to 13 MBA a never look back deal? Or are we kidding ourselves? If I did this, id keep the 13 inch and get the iMac when it releases.
 

LeeW

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I’ll pass the M1 MBA Base to my parents who will then replace a completely aged 2014 MBA 4/128.

I was thinking the same recently, I know I will upgrade at the next major upgrade, less than two years away at which point my 16GB M1 Mac Mini will still be good enough for someone in the family for many years.
 

m1maverick

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My problem with all you guys saying you got the MBA and sold your 16 inch only to go back to 16 inch when it comes out is that what you really want is a 16 inch Apple silicone and now you are working with a cramped 13 inch.
I think, for anyone who is working with a 15" or 16" MBP, buying an M1 13" MBP makes a lot of sense for a couple of reasons:
  1. The performance of the M1 MBP exceeds all but the highest spec'd, latest model 15" and 16" MBPs.
  2. The battery life of the M1 MBP exceeds almost, if not, all of the previous MBP models.
There are other factors but if one needs speed / battery life "suffering" with a 13" M1 MBP makes a lot of sense.
 

Jimmy James

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Oct 26, 2008
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I see this thread and it makes me wait for the M2 - I feel like this is Apples A4 moment, so the A5 version will be a huge leap.
I always thought A4 was a slow pig (most seemed thrilled with the speed). This feels amazing out of the gates. It is, after all, a derivative of A14. Are we expecting A15 (therefore M2) to be a big step forward?
 

macintoshmac

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Very few people, very few, buy computers and don't plan on using them for at least 3 years if not closer to 5-6 in many cases. The M1 is clearly incredible but it begs an important, important question... what WILL the higher end computers in the MacBook Pro 13 and 16 inch lines (or the rumored 14/16 in 2021) have in terms of performance? You have to believe they will significantly outperform the M1 computers released so far if only to justify the price and category separation. What will the higher end iMacs (with a rumored full redesign) look like? Will the iMac Pro "go away" with the performance of the M series of chips? Because of this uncertainty I am waiting... my computers need to be replaced and while still serviceable my primary Macs certainly could use an update... the M1 is very enticing but with a M1X or M2 likely in just 6 months I'm waiting to see since inevitably I won't want to trade in a brand new Mac for another brand new Mac in just a year or less.
Not necessarily. They can have better multitasking abilities and extra ports. The M1 pretty much exceeds their current Intel top-of-the-line notebooks, so that is a great starting point. They could have better multitasking efficiency and ports and call it a day with extra ports. Or maybe two M chips, but that is going to be quite a different beast I suppose. And way costlier.
 

oosamon

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May 6, 2013
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If it comes in a 12" model, I'm all over it. Love my (underpowered but effective) 2017 MacBook. Incredibly portable.
 

mattburley7

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Oct 13, 2011
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Going to keep my M1 MBA until there is enough changes where I would need to upgrade.
 
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Gene Steinberg

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I still have a working 2010 17-inch MacBook Pro. It has been orphaned with os releases for several years, but continues to work just fine as a backup device.

I would certainly want to wait for a 16-inch MacBook Pro as a replacement to last another 10 years. I think the panic over the M1 Macs maybe not having all the features you want is nonsense. Apple said it would take two years for this transition. Take a deep breath. If the current models do what you want, great.

If they don't, wait. Your current Mac won't self-destruct.

Peace,
Gene
 

canyonblue737

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Not necessarily. They can have better multitasking abilities and extra ports. The M1 pretty much exceeds their current Intel top-of-the-line notebooks, so that is a great starting point. They could have better multitasking efficiency and ports and call it a day with extra ports. Or maybe two M chips, but that is going to be quite a different beast I suppose. And way costlier.

well we will see, but i doubt apple magically becomes a computer company with top-line performance at $1000-2000 and then they add some ports and "multitasking abilities" for some extra money. apple sells expensive stuff and they will have to justify you going out and spending $2000-4000 or more on a premium MacBook pro or iMac etc... and they will do that through naked performance. I fully expect an M-series processor with far more than 8 cores and perhaps discrete graphics again designed to crush what the M1 tier Macs can do performance wise. Of course you may rightly say that "what regular person needs that level of performance, just get the M1 Macs!" but if you can afford to wait 6-12 months you'll have a much better idea of what you are giving up vs. the higher tier M-series Macs to come.
 
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dasjati

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Of course you may rightly say that "what regular person needs that level of performance, just get the M1 Macs!" but if you can afford to wait 6-12 months you'll have a much better idea of what you are giving up vs. the higher tier M-series Macs to come.

That's exactly what I am doing right now. I wanted to replace my 2015 MBP 15 next year anyway, and hope that it doesn't brake down all of a sudden. I expect Apple to show the rest of the MBP lineup maybe in spring, definitely by WWDC 21 in the summer.

As someone else has pointed out in this thread: These chips have been in the making for many, many years. So the rest of the „M“ family is already in its final stages. I think the reason for the two year timeframe is the Mac Pro with all its crazy upgrade options. I personally would not be surprised if the transition for everything else is already done next summer.

I might still go with a base model MBP by then. But I don't have to wonder what the better machines will be capable of. And some of the problems with the transition will have been figured out (ScreenFlow not working on M1 is one issue for me).
 
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