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I think reading on an iPad is one of the most overlooked advantages of the device. I got a local public library card and downloaded an app called Libby. It is terrific. Once you set up a log on and enter your library card, Libby basically gives you access to all available books in your local public library plus affiliated libraries.....which in my case is huge collection! I really never need to buy another book. If you read one book a month, you can pay for your iPad investment pretty quickly.
A few years ago, after I had gotten done ripping all of our CDs and uploading them to iTunes Match, we took all our books and CDs to Half Price Books and sold the whole lot of it. When we got home we got rid of all the book and CD shelves in the house as well. Almost everyone in my house has their own iPad and we're all big readers, so we just do all our reading on those now. Our books, music, movies, and shows are always with us on our iPads and iPhones. HUGE upside: when we moved, we didn't have those dreaded boxes full of CDs and books to lug to the new place. Those are always the heaviest and most awkward to move!!
 
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A few years ago, after I had gotten done ripping all of our CDs and uploading them to iTunes Match, we took all our books and CDs to Half Price Books and sold the whole lot of it. When we got home we got rid of all the book and CD shelves in the house as well. Almost everyone in my house has their own iPad and we're all big readers, so we just do all our reading on those now. Our books, music, movies, and shows are always with us on our iPads and iPhones. HUGE upside: when we moved, we didn't have those dreaded boxes full of CDs and books to lug to the new place. Those are always the heaviest and most awkward to move!!

Yep. I agree that having access to all of your books plus library books readily on a tablet is tremendous.

I recently read biographies of Jefferson and Adams. These guys put considerable effort into their personal book collection because during their time there was very limited access to books. Very few Libraries. So, books were precious, collected and prized. A substantial book collection was a status symbol. These collections were also susceptible to damage from fire, floods, etc.. Jefferson's collection of 6,500 plus books were bought by the Library of Congress.

Now, if you showed Jefferson and Adams an iPad, and told them the only thing this one pound tablet can do is access millions of books in Libraries all over the region.....they would have viewed it as a miracle. Then, if you told them that such a tablet was $300, which is well within the average persons' disposable income, they would think we must have the best read and most educated citizens and that society must have evolved to the highest levels in literature, poetry, arts, sciences, and humanities........:(......Alas, then the conversation would get kind of grim.
 
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I am a cancer patient, my iPad goes with me to appointments & chemo. When I feel like crap I bring it to bed with me. I can answer my phone on it, watch Netflix & Youtube...it’s my constant companion & just works so beautifully with my Mac & iPhone. I don’t have to go nuts configuring things, the devices just work together seamlessly
 
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I have a Mac, but I don’t do much with it, (safari browse.) I honestly got it while I’m waiting for the new iPad. *Again knock on Wood that Apple announces them (and are very similar to the leaks or rumors.)

But I mainly use my Xs Max as my go-to everything device.
 
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I am getting excited about getting my new phone Friday, time to do an encrypted backup of my 6S Plus & get an Apple account for my son. I hope he comes to love Apple as much as I do :)
 
I have my iPad mounted on this arm that moves around. The thing sits right next to my recliner in my living room. I use that thing all the time. Mainly Reddit, Safari and Youtube. My iPad rarely leaves my house. Rarely leaves the mount to be honest.

I do zero "real work" on my iPad. I bought a pencil and keyboard case for my current iPad and never use either. I will not be doing the same next time.

I'm very excited about the dimensions Mac Rumors has for the hopefully announced iPads for next week. The old 12.9" iPad would not fit on my mount, but the new one would. If the dimensions hold up to the rumor, I'm getting the 12.9" next week for sure.
 
Yep. I agree that having access to all of your books plus library books readily on a tablet is tremendous.

I recently read biographies of Jefferson and Adams. These guys put considerable effort into their personal book collection because during their time there was very limited access to books. Very few Libraries. So, books were precious, collected and prized. A substantial book collection was a status symbol. These collections were also susceptible to damage from fire, floods, etc.. Jefferson's collection of 6,500 plus books were bought by the Library of Congress.

Now, if you showed Jefferson and Adams an iPad, and told them the only thing this one pound tablet can do is access millions of books in Libraries all over the region.....they would have viewed it as a miracle. Then, if you told them that such a tablet was $300, which is well within the average persons' disposable income, they would think we must have the best read and most educated citizens and that society must have evolved to the highest levels in literature, poetry, arts, sciences, and humanities........:(......Alas, then the conversation would get kind of grim.
That’s true! But that said, I have a personal library of over 5000 paper books. But I also have my IPP 10.5 on which I now read a lot more since I have a large part of my books and journal articles in digital formats. I should add, almost all my books are related to my work/ research.
 
I’m mostly a lurker, but I thought I’d comment on this thread because I think it’s laughable that some people still think an iPad Pro isn’t a true productivity device. I run and market a 7 figure ecommerce store (and a few smaller ones) entirely from my iPad Pro, and have done so since the iPad Pro came out. So, I’d say my iPad Pro is very productive.
 
I’m mostly a lurker, but I thought I’d comment on this thread because I think it’s laughable that some people still think an iPad Pro isn’t a true productivity device. I run and market a 7 figure ecommerce store (and a few smaller ones) entirely from my iPad Pro, and have done so since the iPad Pro came out. So, I’d say my iPad Pro is very productive.

Yeah, i just laugh at anyone who calls the ipad pro a toy & not a serious computer. It reminds me of how film photographers reacted when DSLRs came onto the scene. They called them inferior and not serious cameras. Now they all use them. As an artist and content creator, ANY tool that one can use is valid. I would never trash people who used laptops or computers as their main devices. It just seems odd. And I think it stems more from a lack of understanding, fear of change and clinging to the old that motivates the people who lash out at ipads.
 
I'm always confused. Some people say that they legitimately use their iPad to do ''real work'' and some say they barely use it at all.

The iPhone and MacBooks are definitely things that have clear use cases. It seems harder for the iPad. But I'm curious what's your daily use for your iPad, the plus and the challenges of an iPad.

This is coming from someone who has only used a Nexus 7 as a tablet for about 6 months.

I use my iPad every day for business purposes. I've automated most of my paperwork (inspections, invoices, reports, etc.) using an app called FormConnect.
 
And I think it stems more from a lack of understanding, fear of change and clinging to the old that motivates the people who lash out at ipads.

This Is It exactly.... I am using mine for everything now out of necessity. I got fed up with my “windows” desktop because I got fed up with it.... Windows can be such a pain....

Yesterday, I am working on a project and it said you had to finish it on the computer.... I am like, I can’t do that and no way I want to use my hubby’s slow laptop..... So I found a way to save the project - uploaded it to Affinity Photo. I did the clean up that was needed on the image. Then put it back into the software and off I went...

I so wanted for a fast PC yesterday (because it would be easier) - but I worked around the issues. Some of it is I know how to do it on the computer. I have streamlined my work in Photoshop. I know how to find images and see them like I want. Not as successful right away on the iPad. But I am figuring it out. I guess it is good that I have NO other pc right now, because if I need to get it done, I need to figure out which app to use.... But it does add time to my project.... for now.
 
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My iPad has all but replaced my laptop that I use to do the Internet. It is used for everything except for photo processing. If something happened to my iPad right now, I would go and buy anther within the hour!
 
There are clearly a LOT of people that can get by with an iPad (or even an iPhone) as their only or main device, but it is just very limiting for me in the way I work so I have a variety of devices for different uses. I have both iPad Pros (10.5 and 12.9), a 15" MBP, a high end Windows PC and an iPhone X.

I work at a software company and for some work things like coding I clearly can't get by without a MBP. I spend a lot of time on design documents in Word, Excel spreadsheets and MS Project schedules. While I can work on those files on my iPad, it's slow and clunky. The lack of mouse support leaves me constantly reaching up to tap the screen from the keyboard - an ergonometric nightmare! The inability to have multiple files open is a massive PITA.

At home I do some desktop gaming, video and photo editing, and recording music and use the PC for that.

The things I do use the iPads for are:
testing the mobile apps our company makes
email at nights and on the weekends
surfing the web
social media
reading Kindle books
light gaming
 
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I’m mostly a lurker, but I thought I’d comment on this thread because I think it’s laughable that some people still think an iPad Pro isn’t a true productivity device. I run and market a 7 figure ecommerce store (and a few smaller ones) entirely from my iPad Pro, and have done so since the iPad Pro came out. So, I’d say my iPad Pro is very productive.

Good for you.

It could probably replace it for Tim Cook too where he is simply writing one liners to his staff (whom are using Macs to carry out actual tasks).
 
When you need to create documents (Writing, Spreadsheets, and Presentations), it is pretty hard to beat a full laptop or desktop computer. The operating system was designed to handle multiple windows, precision pointing with mouse, and keyboard input. So, yep....traditional computers are going to be better than a touch-based device, such as an iPad, for working with documents. Most office professionals spend their time working on documents and data bases, so these folks will most certainly need to have a computer.

Now, ads will show folks working on an iPad Pro with pencil engaged in some kind of creative endeavor like sketching and drawing, and there definitely are people who make a living doing this type of work. I don't know the stats, but I would guess for every person earning a living as a creative person there are 10 office slaves sweating over spreadsheets and decks of slides. I was an office slave.....so, my experience might be skewed.

So, for me, I use the iPad much in the same way as Jobs described it during the launch in 2010. It is a device that sits between a laptop and a smartphone. It is great for answering emails, browsing the web, taking notes, calendaring, setting reminders, marking up documents, reading books/PDFs, sharing photos, and watching videos/movies. Basically, it excels at light productivity and consumption of media. For many people, these are the primary personal (rather than: professional) computing activities. It's a great travel companion for business or pleasure. Finally, the iPad is a delight to use. So, it has a place.

With the Attached Keyboard and Pen - how much does it narrow the gap in terms of content creation?

What could Apple do to close the gap on content creation on iPad Pro?
 
With the Attached Keyboard and Pen - how much does it narrow the gap in terms of content creation?

What could Apple do to close the gap on content creation on iPad Pro?

One thing that for sure I need is being able to open multiple instances of the same application. I quite often need to have open more than one Word or Excel document.

I need easy way to add second monitor. By easy I do not mean a dongle that I have to carry around on top of the pencil and keyboard. I am talking about having a port for this.

And yeah I need to be able to hook up mouse pointer. There are things that I do far easier with mouse pointer than touch screen.

Better integration with printers. I am not talking about Apple printers, but regular printers that most companies use (so like HP and others).

Better files management. The current one is pretty restricted and crippled. I want to be able to choose where to download files. I want to be able default apps for opening files.

I need micro sd card slot. So that I can easily transfer music/photos from one device to another. iCloud is not a solution. I want something that works without Internet.

Better and more accurate cursor. Typing is annoying on an iPad. Editing something I have written is PITA. It's really difficult to put the cursor where I want. Adding keyboard is not enough. The issue is not in the keyboard itself, it's the OS.

An option to open youtube clips in browser and then minimize it. I use youtube to listen to music quite often and I want to have it in the background while doing something. Picture in picture is distracting and not what I want.
 
secretk,
All the things you are asking for are available with a laptop. The iPad is not a laptop.

I have found I can be extreamly productive with an iPad. I use the iWork apps for many things both work and school (pursuing a second graduate degree) related. I have Affinity Designer and Photo for image creation and editing purposes. I have LumaFusion for multi-track video editing (it even has Chromokey). Using the apps and files does require a slightly different workflow and mindset when using the Files app. I have a bluetooth keyboard when I want to do more than a paragraph of typing.

Recently I discovered that I can use Zoom for sharing my iPad screen. I can even control other meeting participant's screens (Windows and Mac). I use Zoom meetings a lot for work and recently for some collaborative school projects. I read that WebEx also has gives the user at the ability to share the iPad screen. That means that a iPad user can run a meeting and present in Keynote or other app. Adobe Connect does not have the ability to share iPad screen yet.

I still have a MacBook and do a lot of things with it, but I just don't take it out of the home that often.
 
secretk,
All the things you are asking for are available with a laptop. The iPad is not a laptop.

True. I was explaining what I need so that the gap between iPad and laptop can be narrower :). You just proved my point. If you need the stuff I mentioned then you have to use laptop. And that basically also explains why not everyone sees the iPad as a replacement for a laptop. Basically I cannot be productive without the things I asked for. Sure I can circumvent them on an iPad and I could do it when outside, but the moment I see computer or laptop I would just drop the iPad and go to other machine.

I have found I can be extreamly productive with an iPad. I use the iWork apps for many things both work and school (pursuing a second graduate degree) related. I have Affinity Designer and Photo for image creation and editing purposes. I have LumaFusion for multi-track video editing (it even has Chromokey). Using the apps and files does require a slightly different workflow and mindset when using the Files app. I have a bluetooth keyboard when I want to do more than a paragraph of typing.

I have Bluetooth keyboard too, but iOS and BT keyboard is not a working solution for me. I type that fast that the cursor cannot catch up. There is a noticeable lag between what I have typed and what is seen on the screen. And that has negative impact on my productivity and efficiency. I do not relate productivity to photos and videos processing as this is not what my work. My work is about leading a team of 23 Software Developers. I have to type a lot of emails, I have to interact via chat with a lot of people in other countries, I have to read a lot of project requirements documents and estimate. I need access to the code all the time as I have to assist my people. Overall lots of typing for me. And I cannot work without music so I have lots of youtube tabs open in the background.

Recently I discovered that I can use Zoom for sharing my iPad screen. I can even control other meeting participant's screens (Windows and Mac). I use Zoom meetings a lot for work and recently for some collaborative school projects. I read that WebEx also has gives the user at the ability to share the iPad screen. That means that a iPad user can run a meeting and present in Keynote or other app. Adobe Connect does not have the ability to share iPad screen yet.

I have not used Zoom. I do have Webex installed but still have not had the chance to use it :). However at work we don't use Webex. We use Cisco system and if I have to share my screen I need HDMI port. Now for me that matters as I spend half of my work week in meetings. And quite often I have to share my screen and show stuff.

I still have a MacBook and do a lot of things with it, but I just don't take it out of the home that often.

Makes sense. I also have a laptop at home, but prefer to not carry it around too much as it's heavier.
 
secretk,
All the things you are asking for are available with a laptop. The iPad is not a laptop.
eh????

that was the whole point of a question- what do you miss out by not getting a laptop.

Apple says we dont need laptops. if you watch the keynotes at all this is clear. I'm not sure that with an upgraded keybaord/trackpad you could make the gap closer.
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One thing that for sure I need is being able to open multiple instances of the same application. I quite often need to have open more than one Word or Excel document.

I need easy way to add second monitor. By easy I do not mean a dongle that I have to carry around on top of the pencil and keyboard. I am talking about having a port for this.

And yeah I need to be able to hook up mouse pointer. There are things that I do far easier with mouse pointer than touch screen.

Better integration with printers. I am not talking about Apple printers, but regular printers that most companies use (so like HP and others).

Better files management. The current one is pretty restricted and crippled. I want to be able to choose where to download files. I want to be able default apps for opening files.

I need micro sd card slot. So that I can easily transfer music/photos from one device to another. iCloud is not a solution. I want something that works without Internet.

Better and more accurate cursor. Typing is annoying on an iPad. Editing something I have written is PITA. It's really difficult to put the cursor where I want. Adding keyboard is not enough. The issue is not in the keyboard itself, it's the OS.

An option to open youtube clips in browser and then minimize it. I use youtube to listen to music quite often and I want to have it in the background while doing something. Picture in picture is distracting and not what I want.

On this list if they came out with an upgraded keyboard and integrated track pad-
then in a software update - improved file management- wouldn't you be pretty close?

for me the current keyboard is sorta unpleasant. if they upgraded that it would go pretty far for me.
 
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On this list if they came out with an upgraded keyboard and integrated track pad-
then in a software update - improved file management- wouldn't you be pretty close?

for me the current keyboard is sorta unpleasant. if they upgraded that it would go pretty far for me.

The gap would definitely be smaller if they come up with a better keyboard and integrated track pad. And yeah if they improve the files management and the experience of the user with iOS when it comes to multitasking and overall working with multiple apps in the same time. If you think about it this is the huge thing that separates laptop from usual tablet. When you use computer you switch between apps quite often. The easier it is to switch app, the better. Also being able to copy/paste from one app to another.

I also would like to see more apps on the dock. I like the dock. It is pretty close to the taskbar on Windows computers and I guess dock on mac. However I would prefer if the dock contains more than the last 3 open apps. Like say at least 5 apps. I switch between apps quite often.
 
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The gap would definitely be smaller if they come up with a better keyboard and integrated track pad. And yeah if they improve the files management and the experience of the user with iOS when it comes to multitasking and overall working with multiple apps in the same time. If you think about it this is the huge thing that separates laptop from usual tablet. When you use computer you switch between apps quite often. The easier it is to switch app, the better. Also being able to copy/paste from one app to another.

I also would like to see more apps on the dock. I like the dock. It is pretty close to the taskbar on Windows computers and I guess dock on mac. However I would prefer if the dock contains more than the last 3 open apps. Like say at least 5 apps. I switch between apps quite often.

I think iOS 13 and maybe before that will address file improvements and multitasking.

I am pretty focused on if they can intro a keyboard w/ integrated trackpad that feels good to work on. No rumors at all on that tho- so who knows.
 
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