What do you say when your PC loving friends.....

[thechris69]

is there a way to upgrade the intel imac's video card?
i dont own one but i hear its good for now, but when games get more advanced, say in the next 2 years, then the video card wont be able to keep up, so is there a way to upgrade the video card in the intel imac?

 

[thechris69]

sorry i double posted

 

[marchcapital]

Do chicks dig sub-$1000 PC's? No.

Basically, there are those who will drive the cheapest piece-of-junk cars they can and be happy with it. Such people build sub-$1000 PCs and like them.

Others prefer the nicer cars. Yes, understood, many can't afford them. But only a fool would pick a Hyundai over a BMW if they could have either.

Could not have said it better myself!...

 

[mheekowh]

say well with a mac you can't upgrade it? Some of my more technical knowledgeable know about the powermac or in the future Mac Pro they like it but think it is so expensive. They tell me I can build my own computer for less than a $1,000. I have a hard time responding back, I would say this would be the number one grudge against the Mac. Not only from friends but people I meet day in and day out. How would you fight back with this misconception? Hope someone can help. Thanks.

You say something like this:

"You upgrade your PCs? Great.

Have all your upgrades solved your problems with spyware, virii, and the inevitable crashing of Windows (of course, this is coming from someone who's managed to keep a Windows XP system alive with no crashes and no need for reformatting since 2002)?

Oh, by the way, I can upgrade my Mac. And when I upgrade my Mac, your PC will still be susceptible to spyware, virii, and Windows."

 

[designed]

Well they haven't said a one thing about it because they do not understand it at all. If they were ever to say something, I'd hit back with a "I don't need to upgrade half as often" or something like that. I didn't upgrade my previous PC for four years (except some new HDs and that can be done on the iMac too with external drives).

 

[Timepass]

You say something like this:

"You upgrade your PCs? Great.

Have all your upgrades solved your problems with spyware, virii, and the inevitable crashing of Windows (of course, this is coming from someone who's managed to keep a Windows XP system alive with no crashes and no need for reformatting since 2002)?

Oh, by the way, I can upgrade my Mac. And when I upgrade my Mac, your PC will still be susceptible to spyware, virii, and Windows."

You should rememeber one thing. General speaking any one who knows how to build there own computer is also going to be running XP with out any problems.
They are not going to suffer from Spyware, Virii or really any major windows crashes beause they know how to do basic system maintaince and how to just advoid the problems. So that arguement is going to cause more harm than good. It just makes mac comminity look stuck up. Face it these guys are going to know how to maintain there systems if they are know much about computers at all.

 

[gekko513]

The thing with upgrading and building a PC yourself is that it requires you to have PC building as a hobby. It takes a lot of time and effort to keep up to date on components, research specs and prices, troubleshoot incompatibilities and faulty components without being able to send the whole thing to one vendor. If you like to have that as a hobby, then there's no alternative on the Mac side and the PC is better with regards to cost, but if you don't mind not having to do that, the upgradability is really a non-issue.

Buy a consumer Mac, get Firewire and USB peripherals for your special needs. No one except pros need PCI cards nowadays. If you want a faster Mac down the road, sell your Mac and buy a new one. Non-tampered with Macs have a very high resale value precisely because you know what you can expect.

In the long run you'll be better of with Macs compared to a self-built PC if you count the time and effort you spend researching, building and upgrading the PC vs. the time you could've spent actually using your Mac.

If you're a pro, you get a PowerMac and customise it to your needs.

 

[laidbackliam]

Basically, there are those who will drive the cheapest piece-of-junk cars they can and be happy with it. Such people build sub-$1000 PCs and like them.

Others prefer the nicer cars. Yes, understood, many can't afford them. But only a fool would pick a Hyundai over a BMW if they could have either.

i bought my macbook pro instead of paying off the loan on my honda

i also built a windows desktop for 300$, using remnants of an old HP motherboard(athlon xp 1.8), an old hard drive (60 gig, 250 installed later) and a new case/dvd burner and new ram and motherboard(pc chips, cheap, but reliable).

also installed a video card with s-video out so i could send all my video to my tv, it was nice, as anytime a video on a website opened, it played simultaneously on my tv and my computer. i tried setting that up on my macbook and i couldn't do it. wish i could do that


i gave that computer to my brother for free, because i couldn't fathom charging for it.

 

[hulugu]

Home-built machines while cheap can also become maintenence nightmares, especially if they're built by someone else, I can't tell you how many times I've run into bodgy PCs cobbled together and sold to businesses as a cheap alternative. The company ends up spending more money and time on these machines then they were ever worth.
This doesn't mean that a home-built sub-1000 machine can be good, it just seems less likely given my experience. I actually think the home-built crowd overemphasize how fantastic shopping at Fry's for motherboards.

 

[confucious626]

Do chicks dig sub-$1000 PC's? No.

Others prefer the nicer cars. Yes, understood, many can't afford them. But only a fool would pick a Hyundai over a BMW if they could have either.

I agree...