The typing feel is kind of in-between the older rMBP keyboards and the new butterfly keyboards. But it retains the older and more reliable scissor mechanisms, and the amount of travel is closer to the older rMBP keyboards than the 2016+ ones.
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the new magic keyboard are not so durable.. got broken key... I need to find old keyboard usb..
Obviously YMMV. I’ve had mine for over a year and use it all day, every day. No durability or reliability issues for me.
I got one with a new iMac in 2017 - I've tried using it for extended periods (months at a time) in an attempt to get over the "Oh no! Different!" and it's OK - but I keep going back to the old wired one, which is just nicer.
Sigh. They had one job to do - take the previous near-perfect design and make it wireless. Instead, they just had to make it thinner, lighter and shorter travel. Its a desktop keyboard guys - heavier is good!
OK, keyboards are subjective - but who was complaining about the old design - apart from it not being wireless?
the funny thing about all of this: there's no one absolute for keyboard design; it's all invention. there's no right or wrong... it's not as if the 11th commandment was "let there be a computer keyboard with fat, clicky keys".
so apple does what it does, and we adapt (or not). then we get used to the current keyboard, and, some time later, there's a whole new design.
and so on. personally, i like change, and have no complaints about the current keyboard (or my 2016 12" macbook, where i do most of my actual typing).
so apple does what it does, and we adapt (or not). then we get used to the current keyboard, and, some time later, there's a whole new design.
and so on. personally, i like change, and have no complaints about the current keyboard (or my 2016 12" macbook, where i do most of my actual typing).
I've never ejected a USB, I just unplug them and never had an issue ever.
And also: https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/8/1...e-eject-usb-flash-drive-not-needed-windows-10
Yes exactly, but who still uses external disk devices? I'm sure some, but Apple has no problem removing ports and jacks in the past so surprised they kept the button
as long as you're not doing that with non-flash drives; with hard drives, you want them to spin down first, or you can damage the drive...
I don’t care for the Magic Keyboard or Mouse. Don’t want to have the thing die on me when I need them.
I replaced the Magic Mouse with a battery powered Bluetooth mouse. Battery last 18 months.
Replaced the keyboard with a wired one that is identical to the magic keyboard. Don’t mind the keys at all.
I replaced the Magic Mouse with a battery powered Bluetooth mouse. Battery last 18 months.
Replaced the keyboard with a wired one that is identical to the magic keyboard. Don’t mind the keys at all.
the batteries last a really-long time on the magic keyboard and mouse; the keyboard can be used while charging, and apple says "charging the mouse for two minutes will give you nine hours of battery life."
two minutes. surely you'd survive that...
I have been trying to get used to it since July 2017 and It still fells terrible. The only reason why I haven't gone back to my old wired keyboard yet, is because I haven't done any serious work and not having a wire is helpfull in moving the keyboard on the desk. If I have stay all day in front of my iMac to write, as an example an essay, I would change it immediately. I still have to admit the I am impressed by the keyboard battery life.
Never used the mouse. My wrist hurt just by looking at it (I am using a Logitech g602).
Never used the mouse. My wrist hurt just by looking at it (I am using a Logitech g602).
this sums up so many people's takes on things (hardware, apps, a movie, a person, etc etc). hilarious...
What I mean is that I didn't have an extensive usage. I took it out and used it for a day out of curiosity but i couldn't even find a position where my hand was comfortable while using it so I put it away immediately. On the other hand I tried the new magic keyboard with numpad for almost 2 years but nothing change for me: to me the difference with older wired keyboard is night and day.
ok, but not what you said. besides, it's... a mouse. not an odd-shaped, weird mouse; it's like a logitech g602 sans the frills).
I also never understood the magic mouse. It's form over function to me. They look really nice but they don't have a decent grip for intensive work. You may think a Logitech mouse is weirdly shaped but they are far better tailored to a hand than a magic mouse.
Most of the people I know have replaced the magic mouse with a ergonomically/weird/functional mouse. A few stayed with the magic mouse so it's always subjective. As long as you're fine with your input device.
I reconnected the "new" magic keyboard again to give it another chance.
Most of the people I know have replaced the magic mouse with a ergonomically/weird/functional mouse. A few stayed with the magic mouse so it's always subjective. As long as you're fine with your input device.
I reconnected the "new" magic keyboard again to give it another chance.
every office i've been to, every friend, collaborator... everyone who has an imac, has the keyboard & mouse it came with. seems realistic that most people (not, for example, the small & vocal group who hang out at forums like this), use what came with their imac... and they're all fine.
we have choices (for example, i use a 3rd-party bluetooth backlit keyboard with my imac); but it's pointless to argue over what's 'best'; we all have our own opinions.
still, i bet that 90% or so of the people who own imacs have never changed their keyboard or mouse...
we have choices (for example, i use a 3rd-party bluetooth backlit keyboard with my imac); but it's pointless to argue over what's 'best'; we all have our own opinions.
still, i bet that 90% or so of the people who own imacs have never changed their keyboard or mouse...
It is pointless to argue what is best indeed. However it is interesting to share views on how everyone uses their computer. That's why I became active on this forum some weeks a go.
At the companies I've worked most of the people doing graphic design/animation used a Logitech mouse in combination with a Wacom tablet. The other departments used the magical mouse. Everyone used the Apple keyboard.
At the companies I've worked most of the people doing graphic design/animation used a Logitech mouse in combination with a Wacom tablet. The other departments used the magical mouse. Everyone used the Apple keyboard.
agreed; it's the discussions here, the lunatics (am including myself), the ranters, the theorists... that make the macrumors forums fun; also, in between... lots of useful ideas, help, advice. all of it is why i hang out here
at least i can find alternative idea from here.agreed; it's the discussions here, the lunatics (am including myself), the ranters, the theorists... that make the macrumors forums fun; also, in between... lots of useful ideas, help, advice. all of it is why i hang out here
Got one with my iMac Pro. Not a fan.
Sometimes the Magic Keyboard cuts out — my Magic Trackpad II never does — a reboot fixes it but still... May be a Mojave error; no doubt Apple will fix that but it’s annoying. I don’t like the feel as much as the old one. The spacing is the tiniest bit narrower—you can’t see it unless you compare the two but I sometimes mistype as a result.
Going back to my wired numeric keyboard. I’ll sell this one on eBay.
Sometimes the Magic Keyboard cuts out — my Magic Trackpad II never does — a reboot fixes it but still... May be a Mojave error; no doubt Apple will fix that but it’s annoying. I don’t like the feel as much as the old one. The spacing is the tiniest bit narrower—you can’t see it unless you compare the two but I sometimes mistype as a result.
Going back to my wired numeric keyboard. I’ll sell this one on eBay.
It’s funny, I never understood the hate for the Magic Mouse. I love it, it’s comfortable in my hand and I now expect every mouse to have the touch features and am annoyed when they don’t.
MM with better touch tool is insane. Love all the stuff you can program that thing to do. I did grow up on larger gaming mice (Razr), so it did take some time to get used to it. But love all the tap/swipe gestures I've got it programmed to do.
I hate mice. Always have — got a Kensington trackball in 1986 for my Mac Plus and have had some form of one ever since. When my iMac Pro wanted voice commands for setup (to the point where bluetooth was active), I said, Screw this! and plugged in my Logitech trackball.
The Magic Trackpad II is ... well, I don't know how I worked without one for my first 31 years of Mac ownership.The first version was ok but this one is amazing.
That's an easy one: I dislike the Magic Mouse 2 (aka the current model) because it's about as comfortable and pleasant to hold as a cactus connected to a 110,000V powerline
But again, YMMV. Everybody's hands are different, it the MM2 simply doesn't work for me. I absolytely agree with @fisherking though: most people I know use the input devices that came with their PC/Mac and never even consider replacing them. That thought simply never crosses their minds.
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