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Ray2

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My understanding is that LightRoom has native support for DNG conversion

I can see one benefit of DNG. The edits are stored in the file header, no need for a sidecar
Correct but the issue is Fuji .raf specific. Adobe's conversion process isn't the greatest, be it Lightroom or their .dng converter. As a result, Fuji shooters need to look elsewhere. Often in spite of the fact they use and like Lightroom.
 

Steven-iphone

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Correct but the issue is Fuji .raf specific. Adobe's conversion process isn't the greatest, be it Lightroom or their .dng converter. As a result, Fuji shooters need to look elsewhere. Often in spite of the fact they use and like Lightroom.
I saw a photographer who has a YouTube channel discuss Fuji RAF process in LightRoom. He saw worm like artifacts in open areas, under high magnification. Not affecting normal printing. It was more of a mental thing for him. He does use the Iridient plug in to buffer this.
 
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javisan

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In 2021 I subscribed (through Apple) to the $9.99 Lightroom CC (cloud) that includes 1TB of storage and I love it. It is very powerful and it has not been hard for me to learn.

I was hesitant to pay another subscription but I really really enjoy using it. It is a million times better, faster, and sleeker than the free software that came with my Canon mirrorless camera.
 
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Steven-iphone

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I don't mind paying for subscriptions - if the product offered is of good quality. And the subscription allows the product to be kept at a quality standard - else, why subscribe.

A person's cell phone service is basically a subscription.
 
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Apple fanboy

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I don't mind paying for subscriptions - if the product offered is of good quality. And the subscription allows the product to be kept at a quality standard - else, why subscribe.

A person's cell phone service is basically a subscription.
They moved to a subscription model because to many people were using an old pirated copy of their software for years. I held out for as long as I could on LR6 until I bit the bullet and subscribed. I hate subscription models and will actively avoid them if at all possible. But I’d already been using LR for years at that point and didn’t want to try and switch to an inferior software.
 

Ray2

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I saw a photographer who has a YouTube channel discuss Fuji RAF process in LightRoom. He saw worm like artifacts in open areas, under high magnification. Not affecting normal printing. It was more of a mental thing for him. He does use the Iridient plug in to buffer this.
If someone on YouTube saw worms, and you believe its a "mental thing", fine. Initial renders are what each of us accepts as a decent starting point, or rejects. That's probably why he, and I, and others, are using Iridient.
 

Steven-iphone

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If someone on YouTube saw worms, and you believe its a "mental thing", fine. Initial renders are what each of us accepts as a decent starting point, or rejects. That's probably why he, and I, and others, are using Iridient.
You miss quoted. He felt the images were fine. Yet under high magnification he saw the artifacts (worms). And it caused concern for his purest nature of his printed images.
 

Ray2

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You miss quoted. He felt the images were fine. Yet under high magnification he saw the artifacts (worms). And it caused concern for his purest nature of his printed images.
Struggling here. Some guy on YouTube finds Adobe conversions for Fuji XTrans files print fine and since they appear only under high magnification they’re sort of there but he can’t see them. So, its a mental thing. I believe that’s accurate. Since you posted his findings with no qualification, I assume you agree. But fine, I’ll comment on him thinking it’s a mental thing.

As a 10 year Fuji shooter, my alternate view is even the latest Adobe conversions of XTrans files can display mush for highly detailed foliage at normal, less than 1:1, magnification. Not worms, a total lack of definition. The worms are a product of Lightroom sharpening. Easily avoided within the Adobe family by going to PS. But, if the conversion resulted in mush, sharpening won’t do anything to improve the situation. Claims of improved processing can easily be discounted by cycling through the 5 versions of Adobe calibration with Lightroom's Calibration tab. The only change visible to me was going from v1 to v2. They added some sharpening. The later versions look similar to v2 at 1:1 or, even at fit to screen viewing.

Question, are you, or the YouTube guy, Fuji XTrans shooters?
 

Steven-iphone

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Struggling here. Some guy on YouTube finds Adobe conversions for Fuji XTrans files print fine and since they appear only under high magnification they’re sort of there but he can’t see them. So, its a mental thing. I believe that’s accurate. Since you posted his findings with no qualification, I assume you agree. But fine, I’ll comment on him thinking it’s a mental thing.

As a 10 year Fuji shooter, my alternate view is even the latest Adobe conversions of XTrans files can display mush for highly detailed foliage at normal, less than 1:1, magnification. Not worms, a total lack of definition. The worms are a product of Lightroom sharpening. Easily avoided within the Adobe family by going to PS. But, if the conversion resulted in mush, sharpening won’t do anything to improve the situation. Claims of improved processing can easily be discounted by cycling through the 5 versions of Adobe calibration with Lightroom's Calibration tab. The only change visible to me was going from v1 to v2. They added some sharpening. The later versions look similar to v2 at 1:1 or, even at fit to screen viewing.

Question, are you, or the YouTube guy, Fuji XTrans shooters?
You don't need to struggle.
 

ericgtr12

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As above. Just use LR Classic and PS and manage my own storage and back ups.
Same here. I love the Adobe subscription model for apps but have never used their storage, I use external drives to house all of my raw photos and anything I post process for sharing gets uploaded to Google Photos in .jpg format, their hosting is cheap and they don't mess with any of your photos.
 

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Same here. I love the Adobe subscription model for apps but have never used their storage, I use external drives to house all of my raw photos and anything I post process for sharing gets uploaded to Google Photos in .jpg format, their hosting is cheap and they don't mess with any of your photos.
I used to store my .jpg on flickr but I didn't want to subscribe to their Pro model and already have hit my 1TB. I'm quite happy with everything in my control than in the cloud somewhere.
 
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ericgtr12

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I used to store my .jpg on flickr but I didn't want to subscribe to their Pro model and already have hit my 1TB. I'm quite happy with everything in my control than in the cloud somewhere.
Agreed and drives are getting cheaper all the time, I saw an 8TB on sale at Costco for $169. I'm still filling up my current 5TB but that will likely be my next drive.
 
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