It’s been known for quite sometime what and how apples refurbishment process works.
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What does Apple do of Products returned in 14 day return Period ?
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It’s been known for quite sometime what and how apples refurbishment process works.
So you think they are taking parts out of returned iPads and using those parts to build iPhones?
That is funny.
That’s picking nits. Obviously parts from a product are used to repair/refurb/remanufacture the same product.
This reasoning is bizarre.
- You still have to pay for it, whether by cash or a credit card hold. It is in no way "free".
- You have the hassle of
- Having to always make sure you are within 14 days of the return window
- Having to continuously make a trip to the Apple store
- Being faced with the possibility that they might not have one in stock after you return yours
- Having to set up your device repeatedly again and again every 14 days
Ok looks like we found a tough guy. Did you know, using Capital Letters, doesn't make your point any more Official)
No, it's not fraud to return a purchase because you changed your mind.
No doubt. It’s a 14-day no questions asked return period. You can tell them that you don’t like the shade of space gray for all it matters. No fraud involved in a return.
It would only be fraud if you attempted to return a product you didn’t actually purchase or tried to return one older than 14-days by putting in a different box and hoping they don’t verify the serial numbers (hint: they do)
I'm not saying that they do this, but they could get your name from the AppleID that was used to activate the device. Also, if purchased using a credit card, they would have that number on file with the attached name.
Bottom line, if you have excessive returns, they'll cut you off. Heck, they do this at Home Depot if you return too much stuff.
ADDED - Just had another thought. Even if Apple didn't cut you off, is it worth the risk of having the device broken or stolen? Let's say that you buy and return and re-buy every 14 days. You always have the price of the device at risk. Let's say you drop it and the screen gets busted. Now they won't accept the return and you've paid $700 for a phone you didn't really want to buy. Plus the screen's broken.
That's a bunch of hogwash. If the product is broken/used/returned because a customer didn't want it/whatever the reason, they get repaired and cleaned up/worn parts replaced, etc., then repackaged in a shiny white box and sold as refurbs on Apple's refurb website, with a full one-year warranty by the way.
https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished
That’s what I said more or less. And exactly what it says on Apples website.
They don’t just resell returns in a white box. Thats what the whole point is and was.
This reasoning is bizarre.
Completely impractical
- You still have to pay for it, whether by cash or a credit card hold. It is in no way "free".
- You have the hassle of
- Having to always make sure you are within 14 days of the return window
- Having to continuously make a trip to the Apple store
- Being faced with the possibility that they might not have one in stock after you return yours
- Having to set up your device repeatedly again and again every 14 days
I would not mind any of that, Just doesn't bother me. If I can, I have no problems doing all of the above you mentioned.
So you have no problems still having to pay for it and have to replace it every 2 weeks and set it up again and again...?
What do you gain out of doing this then?
But you see, it is not free. You pay with your time. And after a bit, you will be blacklisted from returns.
Two days ago I received a refurbished 2017 MacBook Pro (see my sig) and this machine looks brand new, despite being 1.5 year old tech, the battery only had 3 cycles on it and the outer case and screen are flawless. I just assumed it was a remanufactured 14 day return. Where did this MBP come from?
You could do that, and maybe you could even get away with it indefinitely. Fortunately the VAST majority of people value their time, and frankly their pride, too much to abuse the system this way.
It also reminds me of an old Simpsons gag where Homer visits a museum and realizes that there's no admission fee, but patrons are encouraged to make a donation. He then looks like a cheap jerk as he gleefully tells people that they don't have to pay and he can't comprehend why anyone would do so voluntarily. The point being that most people are quite alright with giving compensation for goods and services even if they can get away with not doing so, because if everyone, or even a significant number of people didn't, then none of us could have these things.
How is it free? You still have to pay for it. They're not going to give you a replacement if you haven't already paid for the original device.
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It isn't free. I don't understand how people can think of it as free. You have to pay for the original device, and when you return it and get another one, you have to pay for the new one. It is in no way "free".
[doublepost=1546716634][/doublepost]I'm going to list this down explicitly. There are only 2 scenarios:
- Pay $X for device, get replacement device for whatever reason, you are still out of pocket for $X
- Pay $X for device, return it and get a refund of $X, pay $X again for a new device, you are still out of pocket for $X.
Yeah this makes no sense, how is it free?
You pay for the phone, and return within 14 days, but you’ve still paid for the damn phone..?! Then you get a refund and... PAY for another phone..? Eh?
You pay for the phone, and return within 14 days, but you’ve still paid for the damn phone..?! Then you get a refund and... PAY for another phone..? Eh?
I would assume that devices returned without any issues claimed, once tested, can even be resold as new. If someone were to return a phone after a day without any signs of use (if it was a gift they didn't want for example) and Apple tested it and found nothing wrong with it and it didn't have a single sign of use then I wouldn't be surprised if it was repackaged and sold as new. Maybe that shouldn't happen but I wouldn't be surprised if it does.
I don't think so. Once an item has been used, no matter how little, it can't be sold as new. The battery itself will have less longevity, even if infinitesimal. Such a practice wouldn't stand legally or technically. Apple is very careful about safeguarding its reputation in this. Such returns would almost certainly be sold as refurbished.
There’s generally laws preventing returns being sold as new. Depends on your jurisdiction.
Best Buy, Amazon, and Fry’s sell returns as “open box”. Or they return unsold/returned product to the manufacturer.
Manufacturers tend to sell as refurbs directly or use for parts in repairs. Mostly because retailers aren’t interested in selling returned/refurbished product (people are wary of it).
I would not be surprised if that were true.
According to some reports, about 5-10% of returns in the U.S. are associated with fraud. This can be higher in other parts of the world. e.g. OEM parts are swapped out with generic parts or defective parts are swapped in.
Without disassembling and close examination, this will be difficult to detect.
sounds great in theory but who has time to set up and restore a new device every 14 days, and trek back and forth to an apple store, and god forbid you were to drop and break one of the items... then you're stuck with it.