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This is another key difference, which is another reason why my Note 2 would never be used as my main phone.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...app-caught-harvesting-users-contacts-facebook

LOL. Quoting a piece written by Dan Digler on AppleInsider. What a joke.

And FYI, Apple didn't figure out 2 step authentication until THIS year... and it still isn't 100% working. We call this epic fail. Which is another reason why I would never use Apples login garbage for iTunes (and by extension an iPhone or 4g capable iPad). Apple sucks at keeping personal user info secure.

At least with Android, I can see and approve permission for apps before I install them. If I don't like what I see, I don't install the app. Easy. But I'm also not a middle aged woman or 13 year old girl, so I don't use Facebook anyway.
 

eaglesteve

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Aug 10, 2009
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Don't use Facebook at all, problem solved.



At least with Android, I can see and approve permission for apps before I install them. If I don't like what I see, I don't install the app. Easy.

Depending on which Android you're talking about, as we know it is an extremely fragmented OS. I understand that some Android phones come with Facebook already installed and you can't uninstall it. Using it is not a pre-requisite for your contacts to be stolen.

In any case, Facebook forms a large part of mobile phone usage, that's a fact. There are 751 million people using Facebook on their mobile phones.
 
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jcpb

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Depending on which Android you're talking about, as we know it is an extremely fragmented OS. I understand that some Android phones come with Facebook already installed and you can't uninstall it. Using it is not a pre-requisite for your contacts to be stolen.

In any case, Facebook forms a large part of mobile phone usage, that's a fact. There are 751 million people using Facebook on their mobile phones.

Umm, you realize... Facebook is a giant data-mining operation disguised as a social networking app? You're already giving them lots of your personal information.
 

eaglesteve

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http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/07/03/security-flaw-opens-all-modern-android-devices-to-zombie-botnet-takeover
 

eaglesteve

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Any source for this claim?

This is the report by Symantec, not Apple Insider

"Of particular note, Mobile Insight automatically flagged the Facebook application for Android because it leaked the device phone number. The first time you launch the Facebook application, even before logging in, your phone number will be sent over the Internet to Facebook servers. You do not need to provide your phone number, log in, initiate a specific action, or even need a Facebook account for this to happen. "

http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/norton-mobile-insight-discovers-facebook-privacy-leak
 

Assault

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http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/07/03/appleinsider-a-pathetic-excuse-of-a-website-to-get-information/QUOTE]

OMG. Everyone throw your phones away. If it's written by Dan Digler for AppleInsider, then it has got to be fact based... Or not. Digler is known to "leave out" facts, not to mention he is unable to write a coherent piece that isn't full of grammatical errors.

You should just post up from the National Enquirer tabloid. At least the articles there are written well. But hey, at least I get a good chuckle out of your links. :p
 

eaglesteve

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http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/07/android-flaw-allows-hackers-to-surreptitiously-modify-apps/#p3

These info are reported in many websites. Apple Insiders might or might not have been one of them.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/07/03/security-flaw-opens-all-modern-android-devices-to-zombie-botnet-takeover

So this is just one of 10 billion Android security flaws, but I've yet to see a forum poster, any of my friends and coworkers, or myself become affected.
 

Assault

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While we are at this, enjoy some reading material on iOS security flaws from just the last few months. Isn't this fun? Boy, glad I don't own an iPhone because the security sucks and all my info will be stolen.

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/03/21/ios-6-1-3-passcode-lock-bypass/

http://news.yahoo.com/video-major-security-flaw-found-ios-7-lock-214015514.html

http://www.redmondpie.com/imessage-security-flaw-allows-for-dos-like-attacks-on-ios-users/

And the most disturbing one from 2 weeks ago; http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2013-4616/

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So this is just one of 10 billion Android security flaws, but I've yet to see a forum poster, any of my friends and coworkers, or myself become affected.

And you never will, unless you go to China or Russia, buy one of the Android phones there, that don't use the Google Play Store for apps and download a bunch of apps from the illegitimate Play Stores there.

The companies like BlueBox will lump all Android phones together, regardless of geographic location and regardless if they are in a country that prevents access to the official Google Play store and exclaim the sky is falling, look at all this malware! What they fail to put out is that 95% of that malware is contained in the Chinese and Russian "Play Stores".

But that doesn't make for good click bait and advertising revenue, does it? :D
 

thehustleman

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Jan 3, 2013
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I have only had ios devices since they first came around back in 2007.

I honestly don't know very much about Android aside from it's an open platform.

Around a couple of years ago I did try switching over to Android, I can't tell you which version it was, but I believe it was Honeycomb. It was an HTC phone, and I had nothing but problems with it from Day 1. It wasn't so much the android platform, it was the phone itself.

I'm getting tired of ios. There's nothing wrong with it, I just would like to try something new.

I don't know anything about rooting or sideloading apps or anything technical like that, but I'm a geek so if someone would explain to me what exactly "rooting" is, then I could easily learn.

The Samsung galaxy S4 honestly looks amazing, and when my current phone (a horrible windows phone, again, I wanted to try something different) contract is up I want to try the Galaxy.

I'm in the market for a 7" tablet, and I hear good things about the Nexus 7, but it's also getting an update within the next month I assume, given that the last model came out this time last year.

Any other big name android tablets besides the Nexus 7, I know the Kindle Fire HD is but it's a locked down version?

Anyway, what makes Android so...different than the ios? I mean to me it seems the same, besides the two different app stores and such.

In a word, FREEDOM!

Android gives users the simplicity of ios (if not even more simple to do most things) and couples it with the ability to do whatever you want with your phone.

If you want to just pull it out the box and use it, do that.

If you want to customize every bit of it? Do it.

If you just want to change a few things, do that too.

You want control over what you install? Have it.

Having control and options is always better than not having it

Androids only limitation is the user
 
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Oletros

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This is the report by Symantec, not Apple Insider

"Of particular note, Mobile Insight automatically flagged the Facebook application for Android because it leaked the device phone number. The first time you launch the Facebook application, even before logging in, your phone number will be sent over the Internet to Facebook servers. You do not need to provide your phone number, log in, initiate a specific action, or even need a Facebook account for this to happen. "

http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/norton-mobile-insight-discovers-facebook-privacy-leak

So, no, just with Facebook installed nothing is sent, you have to use it at least once

Still waiting what has to do with Android fragmentation

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/07/03/security-flaw-opens-all-modern-android-devices-to-zombie-botnet-takeover

Please, if you want to have a minimal credibility, don't post anything from Daniel Eran Dilger or Appleinsider.

And no, the security flaw it is not such dangerous as he paints it.

But nice tries, you're trying hard, next you can try to read Appleinsider forums and quote some of their unbiased and knowledgeable members
 

eaglesteve

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Aug 10, 2009
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And you never will, unless you go to China or Russia, buy one of the Android phones there, that don't use the Google Play Store for apps and download a bunch of apps from the illegitimate Play Stores there.



"One of the points made in playing down Android malware risks is that it mainly affects those who download apps from Russian and Chinese app stores.

But the Trend Micro study found that of the 293,091 malicious apps, 68,740 were in the Google Play app store."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technol...-android-devices/story-fni0c1du-1226657128776

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Relative seriousness of risks between these two platforms according to McAfee:

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/04/17/apple-enterprises-android-malware/


Will remember not to use Appleinsider as source of information in the future.
 
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Mattstkc

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Dec 8, 2009
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I would forget about all the nonsense spouted about needing to do a lot to an Android phone to make it work. Straight from the box it is fairly easy to get up and running, even for non tech people like myself, for a self proclaimed geek like yourself there will be no problems at all. I would suggest that for the time being to forget about rooting etc your new phone, it really will be enjoyable as is. Later, perhaps you could go the rooting, flashing route.

Do not, do not, do not compare it to iOS, it works differently, not wrongly, just differently, if iOS does something one way, it does not mean that Android doing it another way is wrong. Take your time to enjoy your new phone, don't just give it a week or two, give it a good chance.

I came from a long line of iPhones (3GS, 4, 4S and 5) and move to a SGS3, Nexus 4 and now a Galaxy S4, I have been very lucky, all of the phones I have owned that I have mentioned have been superb, I just enjoy Android more at the moment.

Enjoy your new phone. :)

have to say I did not expect to find this nice of a thread re:android. I had a 3GS, went to a ****** android phone because I didn't know any better, and then back to a 4S. I too am just bored, and things on android, like Tasker, make me want to go for it even more. Probably the Galaxy S4.
 

Mattstkc

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Dec 8, 2009
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Chicago, IL
I'm currently also using a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I will also be getting perhaps an HTC One when they put in a Snapdragon 800. Before this I also had a Samsung Galaxy S. I just don't find them capable of meeting my needs (where music is a big part), so they're just my hobby phones as oppose to my day to day main phone.

Have you tried DoubleTwist for Android? Super easy to use desktop and mobile client. the stock music app is for **** to me but DoubleTwist is pretty great. Works similar to iTunes - super easy to use.
 
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