If Apple can work Intel on price (they can)... those processors and graphics chipsets would be ideal.
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What GPU in 2013 Mac Mini?
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If Apple can work Intel on price (they can)... those processors and graphics chipsets would be ideal.
News and rumors Haswell for mac mini
I give you that in french:"L'évolution la plus intéressante est donc pour le MacBook Pro Retina 13 pouces et le Mac mini qui devraient voir leurs performances graphiques décuplées."
Here is the source ;
http://www.macworld.fr/mac/actualit...ue-geforce-gt-755m-gtx-775m-780m,534659,1.htm
I think its a very good news (if true...).
I give you that in french:"L'évolution la plus intéressante est donc pour le MacBook Pro Retina 13 pouces et le Mac mini qui devraient voir leurs performances graphiques décuplées."
Here is the source ;
http://www.macworld.fr/mac/actualit...ue-geforce-gt-755m-gtx-775m-780m,534659,1.htm
I think its a very good news (if true...).
it will be disappointed if APPLE doesn't select Iris Pro HD5200 graphics with the new Haswell i7 processor...(2+ GHz). 
Tenfold improvement in graphics performance? That's pretty outrageous compared to any other guesses that have been thrown out there.
755M in the 15" MacBook Pro eh? Interesting. Iris 5100 should make the most sense for the mini and 13" rMBP although if they add the Iris Pro, we'll see.
Exactly. I had this debate with someone in another thread. Ain't no way the mini is coming up before, or with the Mac Pro. Look for it at least a month later, if not several months after the Mac Pro release.
with grave sadness i feel as though agreeing with you is the most logical thought process....
i have been waiting for new mini's since WWDC
luckily i dont "need" one immediately but nevertheless i'd like to be able to start using my MBP as a laptop again and not a home theatre/server system... Though if i am honest the MBP is handling all tasks with more than acceptable resilience and fervour...
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I traded in my 2009 C2D Mini for:
the 2010 as an Xray server at work.
Also have a 2011 mini as another server at work and
4 2012 mini's, 1 at home as my server and 3 more as workstations.
We'll see a Haswell Mini fairly soon.
not to steal away the thread but "demi-god" how the hell do you get that designations
good question. i have done more then 1000 posts and I am a 603. what is a 603? I remember being a 6502 and a 6502a and a newbie. not sure why I am not a member or a regular
Ah, the 603. My Power Mac 4400/200 PC Compatible had a PPC 603e powering the Mac side (and some sort of generic 486 equivalent powering the PC card). That was a cool machine. Clunky and not very Apple-like at all.
How is a $600-700 Mac going to distract folks from another Mac likely priced approximately $2000 more ? Those are two different groups of people, both in price and performance.
The Mac Pro also has parts logistics that the Mini doesn't have. Intel hasn't targeted volume Thunderbolt 2 shipments till 2014. Intel is also doing a slow-roll rollout of the E5 v2 (like last year for v1). [/quote]
Pushing the mini behind that by "months" could push the mini pragmatically into 2014 fo no good reason.
The Mac Mini has largely been a derviative of the MB/MBP 13" offerings. Similar (to same) CPU/GPUs. Perhaps a month stagger behind those ( so that that much higher volume Mac Pro gets full supply of the shared CPU/GPU parts), but the Mac Pro is on a completely different zip code when it comes to pricing , components, and performance.
I am hoping for Iris 5100 in the base model. I think I said that before, though I am not sure how much I would be willing to pay for a mini with Iris Pro. If they put it in the upper model mini and it stayed at $799, I would go for it. If it was $999, I might pass.
We have no idea what the price of the new Mac Pro will be. The publicly available component prices for the CPU and GPU mean almost nothing in the case of a large, flagship customer such as Apple. The same $2500 price point as the current pro is the best guess - but a pretty weak one for such a radical re-design.
The new design will put off some "pro" customers so it would make sense for Apple to compensate for this by trying to attract new "prosumer" customers who just want a headless Mac with decent graphics, even if they won't really need, or even benefit from Xeon or dual FireGL.
A fully tricked out Mac Mini with 2.6GHz Quad i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB Fusion is $1400, currently let down by its graphics. Improve the graphics with Iris Pro, add PCIE flash storage options and, yes, it is the sort of thing that some customers will be weighing up against a $2000 Mac Pro.
You will not see iris pro in a Mac mini. the iris pro cpus a 47watt TDP. and the Mac Mini case maxes out to support 45w TDP
so most likely the new range will be lower end i5 models and no high end Mac Minis with 4 core cpus in the i7 haswell range.
so most likely the new range will be lower end i5 models and no high end Mac Minis with 4 core cpus in the i7 haswell range.
In my opinion,
Intel® Core i7-4558U Processor 2.80 GHz (4M Cache, up to 3.30 GHz), Max. TDP # 28 W, Intel® Iris graphics 5100, Dual Core / 4 Threads.
or
Intel® Core i7-4550U Processor 1.50 GHz (4M Cache, up to 3.00 GHz), Max. TDP # 15 W, Intel® HD Graphics 5000, Dual Core / 4 Threads.
or
Intel® Core i7-4650U Processor 1.70 GHz (4M Cache, up to 3.30 GHz), Max. TDP # 15 W, Intel® HD Graphics 5000, Dual Core / 4 Threads.
or
Intel® Core i7-4600M Processor 2.90 GHz (4M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz), Max. TDP # 37 W, Intel® HD Graphics 4600, Dual Core / 4 Threads.
or
Intel® Core i7-4702HQ Processor 2.20 GHz (6M Cache, up to 3.20 GHz), Max. TDP # 37 W, Intel® HD Graphics 4600, Quad Core / 8 Threads.
or
Intel® Core i7-4765T Processor 2.00 GHz (8M Cache, up to 3.00 GHz) Max. TDP # 35 W, Intel® HD Graphics 4600, Quad Core / 8 Threads.
These are all the candidate i7 Haswell mobile processors (Max. TDP below 45W). Unfortunately, there isn't any CPU (Dual or Quad Core) + Iris Pro 5200 graphics combination.
Let's see...
PS: How do you know that Mac Mini case Max. TDP # 45 W capability?
I think the 47w incorporates stuff that wasn't included in the Ivy Bridge chips so they are effectively the same TDP.
That being said, there's enough information about a downsides of running a Mac Mini hot for Apple to have considered a more effective design for heat dissipation. I keep reading about people's solutions for Minis in data centres involving standing them on the side or leaving the bottom off and elevating the unit for air flow. It's not very elegant and you can tell that Apple had a good think about heat dissipation when they came up with some of their new product refreshes this year.
When you look at the new Airport Extreme, Time Capsule, and Mac Pro it would stand to reason for a new design Mac Mini to be in the wings and it would be a vertical design with exhaust fan at the top. Internally, we might see something like internals of the Time Capsule, with space for a 2.5" hard drive plus a PCIe stick if a fusion drive is specced.
Remember everything else Apple has launched this year has dispensed with Samsung 830 Pro 2.5" SATA 3 SSD parts in favour of a smaller blade design with faster PCIe interface. The added benefit being they don't take up as much room as a 2.5" drive bay. There might have been an internal change for the (unchanged) iMacs to accommodate the new flash drives so if the Mac Mini were to remain in the current form factor there might be internal changes afoot to effectively erase one of the drive bays in favour of a slot for a PCIe SSD Fusion drive option.
Even if they didn't see fit to upgrade the design they might also want to nobble the Mini to prevent it from cannibalising the iMac or Mac Pro in particular by limiting it to a dual core chip with Iris 5100 graphics at best. This is the reason why an Iris Pro Mac Mini might not be on the cards in my opinion.
a. where have you found max. TDP 45w? 45w concerns only cpu or total consumption?
b. no quad core i7 mobile Haswell processor combined with HD5xxx series graphics? YES. There are some quad-core i7 mobile Haswell processors combined with HD4600 graphics, though.
Is Iris 5000 faster than mc816 AMD Radeon HD 6630M ?
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It would definitely fill a void to put a decent GPU in a Mac Mini refresh. The iMac is the all-in-one consumer option and while tricked out it's more prosumer, but the Mac Mini is more like a consumer desktop that gives you display freedom and the Mac Pro is their professional line, above prosumer. If they could throw something in there that's a little more robust for a decent price, they could really attract a lot of people. Give us a slightly higher clock speed, PCIe, and a GPU comparable to the mobile one inside the new iMac and you'll have some very happy people. Let us have a GPU option that when tricked out can be more prosumer worthy. It won't beat up the other computer sales IMO...very different desires between MP, iMac, and Mac Mini users.
Do you think a new Mac Mini case can be reconstructed to resist higher MAX TDP? (i.e. 47W). There isn't any i7 quad-core mobile Haswell processor combined with Iris Pro graphics 5200 below 45W MAX TDP.
Otherwise, there are combinations of Iris HD5100 or HD5000 graphics only with dual-core i7 mobile Haswell processors (below MAX TDP 45W).
OR
HD4600 + quad-core i7 mobile Haswell processors (to comply with MAX TDP 45W).
(I am talking about the best possible BTO option in the new Mac Mini).