Agree, completely. I’ve also heard very bad reports from users with older iPads that were updated to iPadOS (like the Air 2 or the one I have, the 9.7-inch iPad Pro).
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iPad What happened to the legendary standby time of iPad?
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Hi Guys,
I am looking to buy an ipad ideally a 12+inch one for taking notes and journaling with a stylus. I was googling to find standb time on ipads and ended up in this thread. Having not owned any Apple devices, can any of you please help me?
I will only use the browser and onenote in this pad and is looking for one with largest standby time. Rest of things like security patches, updates, emails, app refresh, locate device etc isn't an issue due to the usage. I will always leave it on low power mode and on Airplane mode except when needing to sync and turn on Bluetooth only for apple pencil.
With this, which ipad/ipad Air/ipad Pro (ideally over 10inch and preferably 12inch) has the best standby time and can use apple pencil(1st gen is good enough)? I can buy an older one if it has better battery, according to this thread.
I am looking to buy an ipad ideally a 12+inch one for taking notes and journaling with a stylus. I was googling to find standb time on ipads and ended up in this thread. Having not owned any Apple devices, can any of you please help me?
I will only use the browser and onenote in this pad and is looking for one with largest standby time. Rest of things like security patches, updates, emails, app refresh, locate device etc isn't an issue due to the usage. I will always leave it on low power mode and on Airplane mode except when needing to sync and turn on Bluetooth only for apple pencil.
With this, which ipad/ipad Air/ipad Pro (ideally over 10inch and preferably 12inch) has the best standby time and can use apple pencil(1st gen is good enough)? I can buy an older one if it has better battery, according to this thread.
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If you’re primary use case it note taking then you need to get the current iPad Mini. Its battery is great but its small size is much better for writing With a stylus, especially if you pair it with a paperlike screen protector.
Save yourself a few of your local currency though and don’t bother with the Apple Pencil. You can get a magnetic charging (as in docks to the side) Pencil from a 3rd party on Amazon for only $30 https://www.amazon.com/Generation-M...688899963&sprefix=apple+pencil,aps,196&sr=8-2
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It’s iPadOS.
My iPad Air 2 used to be able to have stand by time for many months. Now that I updated iPadOS, the standby is nothing like that anymore.
My iPad Air 2 used to be able to have stand by time for many months. Now that I updated iPadOS, the standby is nothing like that anymore.
I have the same problem with Mac laptops too. Mac laptops used to have great stand by time. But now they are like Windows laptops if they are put in ”sleep mode”.
Maybe Apple their software engineers need to return to the office.
Maybe Apple their software engineers need to return to the office.
I’ve had both mine for almost a year and almost never shut them down and they do not display this behavior. (🤞)
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I will try mini, but an A4 size screen or around 12inch would be beneficial. Thanks for the pen reccomendations, didn't know that.If you’re primary use case it note taking then you need to get the current iPad Mini. Its battery is great but its small size is much better for writing With a stylus, especially if you pair it with a paperlike screen protector.
Save yourself a few of your local currency though and don’t bother with the Apple Pencil. You can get a magnetic charging (as in docks to the side) Pencil from a 3rd party on Amazon for only $30 https://www.amazon.com/Generation-Magnetic-Wireless-Sensitivity-Compatible/dp/B0BWYGFSMG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=12PY2B59W9OLJ&keywords=Apple+Pencil&qid=1688899963&sprefix=apple+pencil,aps,196&sr=8-2
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Is it possible/not too hard to go back to older iPad Os? With jailbreak or anything else like that?Can you share which OS you had before and which device is it?
My Intel 12" MacBook stayed on standby for a week during my holidays, when I came back it immedialy open to where I had left it and had more than half of the battery life. All my iPads were dead and they were all almost full charged. The only exception was my mini 2 on IOS 10 which had only lost 10-12%
This is fairly anecdotal but it feels like Apple addressed standby in the iPadOS 17 betas. I have 2 iPad Pros and a mini and they’ve improved significantly with sitting around. Slept 8 hours last night and my iPad Pro 12.9 (magic keyboard and apple pencil attached) drained 1% (50-->49%). My 11” was fully charged right before bed for a test and held at 100% the entire night, Magic Keyboard attached but no Apple Pencil on
Been noticing this for the past few weeks.
Been noticing this for the past few weeks.
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I feel like my mini 6 standby time also improved from the last couple of updates.
Another ancedotal report with iPadOS 17b3: 12.9” iPP+magic keyboard+pencil, went to bed at 11pm with the iPad at 87% and woke up at 6:30am with it at 84%. Definitely a slower drain rate than when I was on iPadOS 16.
Apparently, I hit the two week mark — I didn’t even notice until I saw this alert:
And still has ~27% battery charge remaining:
By the way, the iPad has had every update and is currently running iPadOS 16.5.1 (c).
The usage is low because I am spreading the time with my still hanging in there 6th generation iPad.
And still has ~27% battery charge remaining:
By the way, the iPad has had every update and is currently running iPadOS 16.5.1 (c).
The usage is low because I am spreading the time with my still hanging in there 6th generation iPad.
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That iPad is at most 2 years old and from the Pro series that generally has better battery life than the Mini and Air. 2 charging cycles until april 2023, so probably less than 2 years old, and battery still near its full capacity. 7-8 hours of total screen usage and lasting two full weeks should really just be expected, that's nothing crazy.
The model is from 2021, and, indeed, this specific unit is not old. It was overstock.
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Of course, the Pro is expected to have a bigger battery (i.e., more runtime) than a non-Pro.
With that said, this iPad Pro model appears to have about the same capacity battery as the...
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And going back to the original comparison...
Earlier iPads were thicker but I didn’t realize/forgot...
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Had the largest capacity (42.5 watt-hour) battery in an iPad to date — 48% larger than the fourth generation iPad Air, for example.
The 12.9-inch models don’t even have that; although, these models come close:
Anyway...
My point being — again, a happenstance notice and share — acceptable/fair standby time can be expected.
Standby time being abhorrent doesn’t have anything to do with battery health, it’s merely the OS sipping power on standby far quicker: my 7-year-old 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 12 has far better standby time than my far newer Air 5 on iPadOS 15 (original version of iOS vs THREE - forced - major updates!).
@MacCheetah3 result is utterly surprising, honestly.
(Funnily enough, I can’t mention them if I include the apostrophe, so incorrect English it is).
Hey there, just found out something worth taking a look.
My iPad Air 4 WiFi model now goes into sleep mode like Macbook when not in use.
Airplane mode ON, WiFi and BT are turned off. iOS 16.6. The device is not turned off.
This is how sleep looks on Mac (turned off lots of stuff for it to be this way)
I guess this behaviour is not possible with WiFi turned ON. Wish iPhone could do the same.
My iPad Air 4 WiFi model now goes into sleep mode like Macbook when not in use.
Airplane mode ON, WiFi and BT are turned off. iOS 16.6. The device is not turned off.
This is how sleep looks on Mac (turned off lots of stuff for it to be this way)
I guess this behaviour is not possible with WiFi turned ON. Wish iPhone could do the same.
I understand that, but it really depends on what apps are running simultaneously and the OS minor version. My Air 5 was able to survive in standby for a full month on 16.3 or maybe it was 16.4. But now, on the latest version since a week or so ago, I charge it to 100% and at the end of the week I am below 50% even though I haven't done much with it. The same thing is currently happening on my barely used iPhone that sits around on airplane mode, wifi off, with the latest update: Until a couple weeks ago I charged it to 100% ONCE a week. Currently it dies after 3-4 days in standby, with absolutely zero use.
The latest update is really infuriating and makes me want to stop updating - but I am not sure I can even do that. I can set it to "download only" and never hit install, but it will still install the security response updates and turning off updates entirely would disable Apple Pay. And I do want to see what iPadOS 17 has to offer anyways.
I have posted the same on this forum in April or may ( https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-normal.2386125/?post=32097703#post-32097703 ) My iPad is doing this since then. Apple said it’s a bug in iOS 16 and also in iPadOS 16. Mine is looking like this when I disable WiFi. I was worried, because my iPhone 7 was doing this and that iPhones battery was broken (exchanged by apple). im still slightly worried, because I can see my battery percentage drop with 2% every 3 minutes since I’ve updated again last week (that’s why I was reading on here again!). I have an m2 iPad Pro 11“.
edit: forgot to add screenshot from last weekend, i tried if the ‘bug’ was fixed by disabling WiFi. It was not fixed ;-)
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Sure, it depends on usage and settings, but with the exact same settings you’ll get wildly different results if on different major versions of iOS.
A minor version affecting standby time like that is surprising, perhaps there is indeed a bug on... what is it? iOS 16.6?
The only way you can stop things like these is by not updating entirely, but the vast majority won’t do that, for various reasons. I can confirm that by not updating you save yourself a lot of headaches when it comes to these issues. There’s never a problem.
Don't know if this has come up earlier in the thread, but it's worth mentioning: You can quit apps on iOS.
I didn't know this for many years, but in a discussion about memory usage on iOS devices, someone said; you can't quit apps on ipad/iphone, it's managed by the system, or something like that. Then came the reply:
This is how you do it; double-click your home button, and all your active apps are shown in a stack. You can then drag an app upward, out of the screen to remove it from memory - quit, if you will.
I guess the battery drain caused by apps open in the background, will vary grately, but every now and then I quit all apps on my ipad/iphone, and I think I can see a difference in battery drain.
Useful to know about, anyway.
I didn't know this for many years, but in a discussion about memory usage on iOS devices, someone said; you can't quit apps on ipad/iphone, it's managed by the system, or something like that. Then came the reply:
This is how you do it; double-click your home button, and all your active apps are shown in a stack. You can then drag an app upward, out of the screen to remove it from memory - quit, if you will.
I guess the battery drain caused by apps open in the background, will vary grately, but every now and then I quit all apps on my ipad/iphone, and I think I can see a difference in battery drain.
Useful to know about, anyway.
Over 3.5 days of standby and no drop from 100% on my 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 12. Sad to see what Apple took away from us (my iPad Air 5 on iPadOS 15 is nowhere close to being this good).
In fact, my Air 5 dropped from 86% to 75% in the same timeframe. Yes, the 100-99% percentage point lasts about 8-9 times longer than any other, but it isn’t this much better.
Back when the standard was good (so, iOS 12 and earlier, before the conversion to iPadOS), it was unthinkable that an iPad that’s over 7 years old and updated through three major versions could beat an iPad that’s new and on its original iOS version in terms of standby. That just wouldn’t happen. Well, thanks to iPadOS, now it happens.
Like many commenters here have stated, iPadOS broke something, and it broke something really badly. iOS 12 is the last good version in terms of standby, unfortunately.
My trial M2 iPad Pro 12.9” went from 100 to now 94% after 3 days. That’s actually quite good. My iPad mini 6 is usually dead every time I want to use it.
I am looking forward to the M3 iPad Pros. Will be getting the base config largest display size for sure. Mini will serve as my small iPad.
I am looking forward to the M3 iPad Pros. Will be getting the base config largest display size for sure. Mini will serve as my small iPad.