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maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
What version of Windows would ever not be successful? And also I can't think of any other content creation suite that's been as popular or as common as Office.

Vista, windows 98me are two examples where the operating system was not a successful product. Did they sell copies of both, yes, and both were also considered dogs.

As for office I agree but I think the general reception is that this latest version is a particularly solid advancement in the office suite.
 

KeriJane

macrumors 6502a
Sep 26, 2009
578
1
ЧИКАГО!
LTD is right again!

MS has lost its edge, hasn't been much of a threat to anyone for years now.

Windows 7 is good. For a PC operating system done by MS, that is. Consumers with $$ buy Macs. Apple owns the premium end, MS having been relegated to bargain-bin status. Also-rans attempt to be more "Apple-like" as the saying goes. Not more 'Windows-like" or "Microsoft-like." LOL I've never hard anyone use those last two phrases. Apple is selling more Macs than ever, in the presence of lower-cost Windows-based options. Something just doesn't seem right about that, especially when Windows 7 was supposed to claw back the Premium end from Apple. Instead, Apple's expanded it with record Mac sales. Again.

Microsoft Office is tolerated for the same reason Windows is. You buy Office because of interoperability with . . . other copies of Office. It isn't particularly great. And it isn't particularly great that MS is relying so heavily on the old Windows + Office paradigm. Especially when MS is becoming a dying, unexciting, unimaginative consumer brand. Time to move *away* from Windows and Office as flagship products. They're cash cows that just encourage laziness, as we're all witnessing.

We're witnessing the Rise of Apple. This decade belongs to them and to players other than Microsoft. The real competition will be between Apple and someone else. This will remain truth until the current management team at MS leaves or is terminated. There needs to be a COMPLETE reorganization at MS a-la Apple upon SJ's return in 1997. It doesn't make sense for MS to be underperforming to the degree they are with a company their size and their R&D budget. Something is very, very wrong in Redmond. The real question is . . . do consumers care anymore?


LTD has got it exactly right AGAIN!

Well, maybe LTD is too generous towards Microsoft.

I didn't see any mention of MS's many blatant rip-offs of other companies products and ideas, particularly Apple's.

Right back down to MS-DOS v 1.0, MS hasn't created anything original.
Maybe my definition of MS as "The Worlds Biggest (out of focus) Copying Machine" was a little too generous as well. Maybe "Corporate Parasite"?

Just because MS has gotten themselves near-universal acceptance through borderline criminal tactics.... doesn't mean that they'll stay there forever or that their stuff is any better than anyone elses or any good at all, period.

Oh Well,
Go Team Apple!
Keri

PS.
What versions of Windows weren't successful? About every alternate one!
;)
PPS.
I'm all for viable alternatives to Apple. I don't feel that MS is one. Either in the computer itself, or the Microsoft Store.
 

rdowns

macrumors Penryn
Jul 11, 2003
27,397
12,521
KeriJane and *LTD* should hook up, marry and have little fan boys and girls. :D
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
8,784
215
UK
I'm shocked that anyone would be so narrow minded, never mind two people. It's gambits like keri Jane and LTD that put a lot of people off apple, myself included despite the fact that I own several apple products and prefer them over other companies offerings. It's the kind of snobbery they display that really puts people off apple, and the fact that they somehow feel elite over anyone who doesn't use apple products.

Tell me this ltd/kerijane, if apple are so damned good then why are they not top dog in everything they sell yet? Why are people still choosing android over iPhones? Why is windows still in existence if it is as terrible as you both make it out to be?

I like my mac, my iPhone and mobile me. But I do not think they are perfect and I do think that there are some parts of other companies offerings of the same product type are better than apples and vise versa. Apple is not king and not god and you are doing nothing but proving your stupidity by being so narrow minded.

Bring on my infraction.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
I'm shocked that anyone would be so narrow minded, never mind two people. It's gambits like keri Jane and LTD that put a lot of people off apple, myself included despite the fact that I own several apple products and prefer them over other companies offerings. It's the kind of snobbery they display that really puts people off apple, and the fact that they somehow feel elite over anyone who doesn't use apple products.

Tell me this ltd/kerijane, if apple are so damned good then why are they not top dog in everything they sell yet? Why are people still choosing android over iPhones? Why is windows still in existence if it is as terrible as you both make it out to be?

I like my mac, my iPhone and mobile me. But I do not think they are perfect and I do think that there are some parts of other companies offerings of the same product type are better than apples and vise versa. Apple is not king and not god and you are doing nothing but proving your stupidity by being so narrow minded.

Bring on my infraction.

+1

I feel exactly the same.
 

Damnations!

macrumors newbie
Jun 5, 2010
21
0
Yes
Right back down to MS-DOS v 1.0, MS hasn't created anything original.
Maybe my definition of MS as "The Worlds Biggest (out of focus) Copying Machine" was a little too generous as well. Maybe "Corporate Parasite"?

Windows NT. That's Network Technology to you, as you do seem uneducated in everything computer related.
You also don't seem to understand that Macs and PCs are generally used for very different things.

For example, people who have no common sense, like you, and who only want to browse the internet should get a Mac, as the number of viruses and vulnerabilities is very small. For people with common sense, Windows is great for that.
I'm not saying everyone here has no common sense, just you, as everyone besides you seems to be making valid arguments, and not just spouting bullcrap about Microsoft that is unsubstantiated and has no source.

Here is a few Microsoft Products.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_software_applications

Here's an idea, Grow the ****** up, stop moaning, and if you don't like Microsoft, then do something about it. Vote with your wallet.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
Actually NT stood for New Technology as it was a brand new OS, not one that was built upon the dos/windows 3.1 and 95 code base.

It focus was the business sector as opposed to the consumer sector that windows 3.1 and 95 were being marketed towards
 

*LTD*

macrumors G4
Feb 5, 2009
10,703
1
Canada
and if you don't like Microsoft, then do something about it. Vote with your wallet.

She did. She got a Mac.

You did too, apparently. Right? You DO own a Mac (or an iPhone or iPod or iPad), right?


Tell me this ltd/kerijane, if apple are so damned good then why are they not top dog in everything they sell yet?

They are.

They either lead the market, are in process of taking over the market, or are the ones being copied. Apple is dictating the pace of change in the consumer sector industry-wide. It's a great thing for the competition that Apple doesn't also make a gaming console. Although they now rule mobile gaming and have deftly brought gaming back to the Mac via the mobile gaming back-door.

It often takes time to conquer a particular sector of the market, like mobile phones. RIM is already a non-factor. Nokia is next, and they're hanging themselves with their own rope. The big threat was actually RIM (because they actually made an effort), not Nokia.
 

gkarris

macrumors G3
Dec 31, 2004
8,301
1,061
"No escape from Reality...”
They either lead the market, are in process of taking over the market, or are the ones being copied. Apple is dictating the pace of change in the consumer sector industry-wide. It's a great thing for the competition that Apple doesn't also make a gaming console. Although they now rule mobile gaming and have deftly brought gaming back to the Mac via the mobile gaming back-door..

Long time console gamer and collector here...

What?

Apple DID make a console - and it failed miserably (LOL - I was able to get one on a close-out).

Apple may rule on the mobile gaming side (and that's what the big two are worried about).

On the console side, Apple will never rule. And don't say "AppleTV" - it has no hookups to older sets, and all the current consoles do (heck you can still even hook them up on RF...).
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
8,784
215
UK
They are. <total rubbish snip>
You're deluded. I'm not even going to attempt to debate with you. Read this post again and come back when you have a much more balanced and less extremist view on the industry. There is one think I cannot stand and that is a forum fanboy.

Notice how no-one but another fanboy agrees with you? Notice how you're a laughing stock whenever you post your single minded bull on these forums?
 

gkarris

macrumors G3
Dec 31, 2004
8,301
1,061
"No escape from Reality...”
Back "on-track"... ;)

The Oak Brook Store opens tomorrow.

I'm a big videogame collector - hoping for some XBox swag...:D

Much bigger than the Apple Store in the same mall - and more fun with the XBox lounge (really now, the iPad screen is a tad small...)
 
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