What Happens When Apple Music Dies On September 30

[Dj64Mk7]

And I'm not paying Apple $120 a year to have iTunes Radio without commercials.

BJ

That's what iTunes Match is for, at $25 a year. That's also the more appropriate service for you, since you prefer to own your music. iTunes Match gives you all the benefits of the iTunes Store for all your music from other sources, and ad-free radio in addition.

 

[Jstuts5797]

Personally I've experienced zero bugs or issues, and absolutely love Apple Music. I've tried Spotify and I didn't like it at all. It was way to much consume consume consume, instead of digging deep and making music a hobby again. I can get happily lost in Apple Music for hours discovering new artists and music and learn about said artists at the same time. I've kept my subscription and don't plan on ever cancelling.

I also have and will continue to subscribe to iTunes Match to ensure that all the music that I actually own remains available anytime p, anywhere, with no restrictions what so ever.

 

[Dj64Mk7]

I also have and will continue to subscribe to iTunes Match to ensure that all the music that I actually own remains available anytime p, anywhere, with no restrictions what so ever.

Doesn't Apple Music include iTunes Match-esque functionality?

 

[dk001]

Apple Music

Do you have a source for this? I’ve heard rumours, but nothing concrete.

I don’t think the subscription is the problem. Some people here (on MacRumors) seem to assume that the music streaming market has a problem that needs fixing. But Spotify is actually a highly regarded service in itself, even though most users never subscribe. When you install Spotify on your Mac or your iPhone you will quickly realise why that is.

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For me Apple Music felt like Columbia Music House resurrected done wrong.
Then it borked my library and I left really early.

 

[KALLT]

I subscribe to Apple Music because I have much more than $120 worth of music that I would like. Apple Music gives me the ability to have the latest releases by my favorite artists right away, instead of having to wait to get money to pay for them. With albums generally costing between $12 and $15 nowadays, Apple Music is a better value for me.

You’ve just explained why you like streaming music, but you haven’t touched upon why you want Apple Music in particular. Spotify has been doing just that for years and now has an established community with numerous public playlists made by professionals and popular amateurs alike. You can even get all of that for free with some ads and you will not lose anything even if you stop paying for it.

For me Apple Music felt like Columbia Music House resurrected done wrong.
Then it borked my library and I left really early.

I’ve gone back to Spotify. My common sense forbids me to pay for this rubbish and I feel that Apple needs some decent negative feedback every now and then. This cannot continue. It will leave a bad taste that never goes away and makes you realise that you’re not acting rationally.

Doesn't Apple Music include iTunes Match-esque functionality?

No, iTunes Match is different in two (important) points: (1) You will keep the iTunes Match music forever, DRM-free, whereas iCloud Music Library is gone once you stop subscribing. All you are left with is the exact music files you had before you subscribed (and they are not upgraded either); (2) iTunes Match uses acoustic fingerprinting to accurately match the music, whereas iCloud Music Library just matches song information you entered yourself with what they have in the store. It happened fairly often that I ended up with different versions, even (bad) cover versions of otherwise unavailable songs.

 

[CEmajr]

Now that Apple Music is over I"m having issues where my iPhone refuses to play certain songs from my library via iTunes Match. It just skips over them automatically after hanging for about 10 seconds as if it's trying to play. These are songs that I actually own in my library, not the ones from Apple Music. I've also noticed that somehow certain songs in my library are now randomly playing edited versions.

Been looking through the settings for any possible fixes but it seems that Apple has removed all mention of iTunes Match from iTunes and the iPhone.

 

[TheMacApple]

This thread rocks! I dislike Apple Music every day looking at it. Never knew till now I can shut it off in setting

 

[Dj64Mk7]

You’ve just explained why you like streaming music, but you haven’t touched upon why you want Apple Music in particular. Spotify has been doing just that for years and now has an established community with numerous public playlists made by professionals and popular amateurs alike. You can even get all of that for free with some ads and you will not lose anything even if you stop paying for it.

I like Apple Music in particular because of its integration with OS X and iOS, as well as the Radio. I like that Apple Music is entirely ad-free, and that all the songs available to add to My Music are CD-quality tracks, the same as if I had bought them from the iTunes Store.

 

[KALLT]

I like Apple Music in particular because of its integration with OS X and iOS, as well as the Radio. I like that Apple Music is entirely ad-free, and that all the songs available to add to My Music are CD-quality tracks, the same as if I had bought them from the iTunes Store.

The integration was very important for me too, but the implementation is just too bad. iTunes has never been this bad and overall it, along with the Music app, is not running smoothly. Honestly, just try Spotify and you see what I mean with that. Once you know better, it will ruin your experience of Apple Music. Also, Spotify is ad-free too if you subscribe and the quality is then 320 kbps as well. Spotify has the exact same radio function. These are not arguments in favour of Apple Music. But now that I canceled my subscription of Apple Music, everything I created during the trial period is gone, I can’t even see my playlists or music library anymore aside from the stuff I had before. That is really bad.

 

[Jstuts5797]

The integration was very important for me too, but the implementation is just too bad. iTunes has never been this bad and overall it, along with the Music app, is not running smoothly. Honestly, just try Spotify and you see what I mean with that. Once you know better, it will ruin your experience of Apple Music. Also, Spotify is ad-free too if you subscribe and the quality is then 320 kbps as well. Spotify has the exact same radio function. These are not arguments in favour of Apple Music. But now that I canceled my subscription of Apple Music, everything I created during the trial period is gone, I can’t even see my playlists or music library anymore aside from the stuff I had before. That is really bad.

I've tried both and prefer Apple Music over Spotify BY FAR.

 

[KALLT]

I've tried both and prefer Apple Music over Spotify BY FAR.

You’ve just convinced me with your arguments!

 

[Dj64Mk7]

The integration was very important for me too, but the implementation is just too bad. iTunes has never been this bad and overall it, along with the Music app, is not running smoothly. Honestly, just try Spotify and you see what I mean with that. Once you know better, it will ruin your experience of Apple Music. Also, Spotify is ad-free too if you subscribe and the quality is then 320 kbps as well. Spotify has the exact same radio function. These are not arguments in favour of Apple Music. But now that I canceled my subscription of Apple Music, everything I created during the trial period is gone, I can’t even see my playlists or music library anymore aside from the stuff I had before. That is really bad.

I would try Spotify, but they don't have a Windows 10 app. (I don't really feel comfortable with .exe installers, what with security and with the issues with high-PPI displays.) I bring this up because I may be moving to Windows Phone, and Spotify has an app on there, just not on PC Windows 10. Although the Beats Music app is still available; would that work with my Apple Music collection? It seems like Groove Music is my only option, but I can't find any reviews of the premium service.

 

[KALLT]

I would try Spotify, but they don't have a Windows 10 app. (I don't really feel comfortable with .exe installers, what with security and with the issues with high-PPI displays.) I bring this up because I may be moving to Windows Phone, and Spotify has an app on there, just not on PC Windows 10. Although the Beats Music app is still available; would that work with my Apple Music collection? It seems like Groove Music is my only option, but I can't find any reviews of the premium service.

You should give the web player a try then. I don’t see a reason why you shouldn’t use the .exe version, it’s unavoidable if you’re using Windows anyway and isn’t a security risk. As for high-resolution displays, you’d have to test it.

Beats Music is incompatible with Apple Music and Apple has no apparent plans to support Windows 10 Mobile. That’s another reason against it. I actually considered a family plan, but no one else in my family has an iPhone or a Mac, nobody likes iTunes and some of them have Windows Phone. I haven’t used Groove Music, but you can try it. Other good services are Google Play Music and Deezer. The latter does have a Windows app, but I don’t think it is as powerful as their web player.

 

[Dj64Mk7]

You should give the web player a try then. I don’t see a reason why you shouldn’t use the .exe version, it’s unavoidable if you’re using Windows anyway and isn’t a security risk. As for high-resolution displays, you’d have to test it.

Beats Music is incompatible with Apple Music and Apple has no apparent plans to support Windows 10 Mobile. That’s another reason against it. I actually considered a family plan, but no one else in my family has an iPhone or a Mac, nobody likes iTunes and some of them have Windows Phone. I haven’t used Groove Music, but you can try it. Other good services are Google Play Music and Deezer. The latter does have a Windows app, but I don’t think it is as powerful as their web player.

My feelings about .exe files simply come from the fact that I'm familiar with the Mac, and that I really like the concept of System Integrity Protection in El Capitan. From what I understand, Windows 10 has no equivalent feature and allows program files to be placed just about anywhere in the filesystem. That's why I'm uncomfortable with the .exe (for now; I feel that you may be able to sway me).

Okay, then I will forget about Beats Music entirely. Obviously, I will need to switch away from Apple Music if/when I decide to get a Windows Phone. Groove seems most similar to Apple Music, as far as OS integration goes. I used Google Play Music extensively back when I had an Android phone and a Windows PC, and it had lots of little bugs here and there, in addition to an experience where I almost lost my entire library. Deezer gave me a box to enter my email for when it's available in my country (US).

 

[KALLT]

My feelings about .exe files simply come from the fact that I'm familiar with the Mac, and that I really like the concept of System Integrity Protection in El Capitan. From what I understand, Windows 10 has no equivalent feature and allows program files to be placed just about anywhere in the filesystem. That's why I'm uncomfortable with the .exe (for now; I feel that you may be able to sway me).

.exe are just executable files, for all practical purposes the equivalent of .app on OS X. They can’t generally do any harm unless you give them unrestricted permission. It’s the same on OS X. Windows does have a bit of an equivalent to SIP: you can’t modify all system files on Windows anymore either. Just follow some common security practices and you’re good to go, such as: never execute programs from sources you don’t trust and be sure to reject administrator privileges when you are not sure. When you download the installer from spotify.com there is no reason to be worried.

 

[decafjava]

You’ve just explained why you like streaming music, but you haven’t touched upon why you want Apple Music in particular. Spotify has been doing just that for years and now has an established community with numerous public playlists made by professionals and popular amateurs alike. You can even get all of that for free with some ads and you will not lose anything even if you stop paying for it.

Really? I was sure that if you download songs etc. for offline use they would be erased if you cancel your Spotify subscription. Can anyone clarify this for me?

I'm wondering if iTunes match is in fact the better option after all.

 

[KALLT]

Really? I was sure that if you download songs etc. for offline use they would be erased if you cancel your Spotify subscription. Can anyone clarify this for me?

I'm wondering if iTunes match is in fact the better option after all.

That’s not what I meant. I meant that you can still have access to your playlist and saved-track list. On Apple Music, your iCloud Music Library and Apple Music playlists just disappear completely with no way of exporting them or using them as a reference for a new service.

 

[decafjava]

That’s not what I meant. I meant that you can still have access to your playlist and saved-track list. On Apple Music, your iCloud Music Library and Apple Music playlists just disappear completely with no way of exporting them or using them as a reference for a new service.

Ah ok, that clears it up-well this is why I'm not that keen on the current streaming subscription model though points to Spotify for allowing one to keep your lists at least.

 

[KALLT]

Ah ok, that clears it up-well this is why I'm not that keen on the current streaming subscription model though points to Spotify for allowing one to keep your lists at least.

And you can still listen to them online, as Spotify has a free tier. You will only hear and see ads.

 

[Dj64Mk7]

.exe are just executable files, for all practical purposes the equivalent of .app on OS X. They can’t generally do any harm unless you give them unrestricted permission. It’s the same on OS X. Windows does have a bit of an equivalent to SIP: you can’t modify all system files on Windows anymore either. Just follow some common security practices and you’re good to go, such as: never execute programs from sources you don’t trust and be sure to reject administrator privileges when you are not sure. When you download the installer from spotify.com there is no reason to be worried.

Thanks for the information. That makes me feel a bit more comfortable. I think I am prepared to use Windows or OS X now, regardless of my descision on the laptop. Thanks so much! Is Spotify the best streaming music service available for Windows? I'm still considering Groove Music, just for the integration into Windows and Windows Phone.