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What has happened to Mail???

Noticed this too. The badge shows a new email and it's not in the app, often til I quit and reopen it or even longer.

I hate the way it displays threaded/quoted content within emails too. For long threads it ends up making the actual email content start to narrow, to the point of being unreadable. Surely there's a better way? They're organised by thread anyway, why can't we hide the in-email nested quotes if they have to exist at all?
 
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Are you also finding when being sent verification codes for websites, that they more often than not arrive slow? (Whereas before, they were quicker most of the time).
 
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Works fine here (using MS Exchange Online as mail service provider).
 
Also reminded of another big issue - opening attachments takes forever, sometimes it doesn’t work at all, so you give up until the next day…This could’ve been the first sign things were going backwards….
 
My badge isn’t even close to showing the correct amount of emails in my inboxes, notifications are all over the shop, mails are missing, mails not where they should be it’s not great.

I’m finding it a real challenge to handle emails now and it shouldn’t be this hard
 
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I just noticed the iCloud mail filters are screwed up beyond belief:

I went to iCloud on my iPhone (18 beta) and the rules are gone. I finally found them by going to the mail app settings on my iPhone and if you dig around long enough you’ll find the iCloud rules are there. BUT I wanted to reorder a few of them so they work properly and after you rearrange them and close the settings and then go back and the rules are in the same order they were originally.

Well somebody at Apple isn’t doing their job.

So I went to my MacBook Air (18 beta here too) and I searched and searched in the mail app settings thinking that Apple would have changed it here too. BUT NOOOOO. You have to go to iCloud the the rules are where they used to be. Who is screwing this up at Apple? Does no one understand uniformity and why that might be something to strive for?

Oh, yes they did keep one thing uniform, rearranging the rules here doesn’t stick either. When you close the settings and go back the rules are in their original order.

I wasted about an hour and a half screwing around with things that “just don’t work”

STOP WITH THE NEW FEATURES AND AI B.S. AND JUST FIX THINGS!
 
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shenfrey said:
It’s always been bad, and I’m surprised you’re only noticing it now
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Before IOS18, it was great. No major flaws for me.

klspahr said:
BUT I wanted to reorder a few of them so they work properly and after you rearrange them and close the settings and then go back and the rules are in the same order they were originally.
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I know this is completely unrelated (but sort of is)…but the ordering of my Safari tabs keeps resetting after I order them how I want.

Since IOS 17, Safari has ignored my ordering & rearranged them….so annoying…
 
So weird that I've had absolutely no issues with Mail on iOS/iPadOS18 and I'm up to 18.2 on both an iPhone 15 Pro Max and M1 12.9 iPad. My wife also has not had any issues on an iPhone 14 and M1 iPad Air. I jumped on iOS18 around PB4.

Not sure if it matters but my providers are iCloud and Comcast (IMAP). My wife uses Hotmail which I believe is Exchange. My iCloud and my wife's Exchange get emails/notifications immediately since they support PUSH. No issues downloading anything either as all content is available immediately like normal.
 
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Gmail has never been fast through Apple Mail for me. I think I’ve read somewhere that Gmail just doesn’t allow push notifications in whatever way Apple is connecting to their mail servers. I always have to go into the Apple Mail app and sync the mail manually to get PIN codes on time.
 
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Gmail has never been fast through Apple Mail for me. I think I’ve read somewhere that Gmail just doesn’t allow push notifications in whatever way Apple is connecting to their mail servers. I always have to go into the Apple Mail app and sync the mail manually to get PIN codes on time.
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I've read that too and it has also been my experience. I use the gmail app for that reason and it does push. I can't believe apple just leaves the mail app, one of the most important apps on any device, such a cluster ****. I'm just glad I stopped using it a long time ago but it's sad to see how bad its doing. WTF is apple doing if not fixing the core apps that people actually NEED in daily life and THE reason smartphones are necessary. Good thing they are still making new ways of putting a cute sticker on stuff because that is what counts and seems like all apple cares about.
 
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Gmail via Apple Mail was fine until Google stopped allowing it to work properly unless you paid for an account.
 
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I’m back onboard Apple Mail for the 1st time in about 8 years. I ditched Gmail, opened an iCloud Mail account as my 2ndry, and have it and my live mail through Apple Mail. My work mail is now exclusively through the Outlook app. Best thing I’ve done.
 
The Mail app has been a complete mess on iOS 18. I’m considering switching to the Gmail app, but I’m interested in the new features that iOS 18.2 will bring, so I’ll stick with it for now, but these bugs need to be addressed.
 
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bransoj said:
Gmail via Apple Mail was fine until Google stopped allowing it to work properly unless you paid for an account.
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I still use Gmail via Apple Mail, both on my Mac and my iPhone. Never noticed any issues at all. Works great for me, and I don't pay for anything......

EDIT: Oh by the way I only have it set so it doesn't push mail down to me, I always check manually. Maybe that's why I've not noticed any different?!

Note to self: read thread properly before replying next time ;)
 
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Ifti said:
I still use Gmail via Apple Mail, both on my Mac and my iPhone. Never noticed any issues at all. Works great for me, and I don't pay for anything......

EDIT: Oh by the way I only have it set so it doesn't push mail down to me, I always check manually. Maybe that's why I've not noticed any different?!

Note to self: read thread properly before replying next time ;)
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Yep thats the same as what i do now but its not how it used to work. It can be a bit hit and miss with syncing these days. However a number of years ago it did all work properly but they made changes that meant proper push notifications etc stopped working unless you had a paid account. Now you have to use Fetch so it works but not as quick for syncing as it was. Devices\setups that had it would carry on working but the moment you changed devices or had to set it back up again on the same phone you lost the functionality.

I went through it all as years ago well before Apple had iCloud etc i set my iPhone 3GS up to use Google Mail, Calendar and Contacts so they were backed up and i could access them all from both my phone and and PC that i was on then later on via my iPad as well. Worked great and to be honest i still do it now partly because i cant be bothered to move everything over to iCloud and partly because of all the additional calendars i have synced in for things like sports fixtures and alike that i cant be bothered to set up again in Apple Calendar. Also not sure Apple Calendar handles them as well.
 
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I’ve got two issues. Both really annoying.


One. I have 3 accounts through my local isp. Since iOS 18 I routinely get it telling me randomly one or more of the accounts the password is wrong and asks me to input it. I can just quit or ca cel and half an hour later that account is fine and another is wrong. No issues on my Mac or iPad.

The icon on my front screen always now shows a badge with 2 in it. No matter if I have 20 unread emails or none. Been like that for days. Restarted phone. Removed app from front screen and put back. The 2 doesn’t relate to any individual account it’s just always 2
 
Had to open Outlook on the PC today after the iPhone took forever to add attachments to a reply email I was planning to send.

Called Apple support about it & made them aware of how sluggish Mail has been for me over the last couple of months, & of course whilst on the phone with remote access enabled, the attachments loaded straight away….they must’ve been loading in the background & ready by the time I called them…

Pre IOS17, Mail was much more responsive….
 
God it is awful….I’m replying to an email & it just sits there loading the original email. The original email had two photos totalling 9.5MB, but I had no option to exclude those attachments….Anyway, I’m sure it never used to take so long to generate a reply to an email…..It has become unusable….
 
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It takes up to 10 minutes for new Mails to appear if I open Mail on my Mac for the first time on a new day. But only for my main icloud.com address. Everything else, also other iCloud adresses are there instantly.

Also writing with a new "hide my email" can be dangerous. It always jumps back to the main address, sometimes if you already clicked on send.
 
All my emails arrive into the app 5-10 minutes late for iCloud. Notification will pop up for an email and with a timestamp of “5 minutes ago” etc. None of my iCloud emails show as “now” in the notification received time.

This notification just popped up. It’s as though it isn’t downloading or syncing properly.

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