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So it has nothing to do with the size, just with the brand of SSD. My uneducated guess was, that it might also be the size, since there were no SSDs that big back then, as far as I remember. Maybe I'll find a 1 TB BX500 in some black friday or whatever sale in the future to try it.
Not per se.

I have a 240 GB SanDisk Ultra II in a 2011 MacBook Pro. I quickly-and-dirtily transferred it to one of my Mid-2007 MacBook Pros (your Early 2008 MacBook Pro has the same ICH8-M SATA controller, doesn't it?) and ran QuickBench:

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Write speeds look mostly OK to me (more than 12 MB/s at least...) — the dips are probably because I've been using this drive since 2016 without ever TRIMing it.

The 960 GB Ultra II uses a slightly different controller compared to the 240 GB version (Marvell 88SS9189 vs. 88SS9190). Maybe that’s the problem or your SSD is defective. Does it perform properly in another machine?
 
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@bobesch has several Early 2008 MacBook Pros and is using a 1 TB SSD in one of them IIRC. I'm sure he'll be happy to tell you what SSD it is :)

Thanks. Great to know that it is possible!

I have a Zheino 500GB SSD in my 2008 MBP and a Sillicon Power 500GB SSD in my 2009 Mini. Both work fine.

The boot drive for my 2009 MP is a 1TB Zheino SSD if you want to count that.

Good to know. I didn't even know the brand Zheino. Since you recommend it, I'll trust it.

Not per se.

I have a 240 GB SanDisk Ultra II in a 2011 MacBook Pro. I quickly-and-dirtily transferred it to one of my Mid-2007 MacBook Pros (your Early 2008 MacBook Pro has the same ICH8-M SATA controller, doesn't it?) and ran QuickBench:

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Write speeds look mostly OK to me (more than 12 MB/s at least...) — the dips are probably because I've been using this drive since 2016 without ever TRIMing it.

The 960 GB Ultra II uses a slightly different controller compared to the 240 GB version (Marvell 88SS9189 vs. 88SS9190). Maybe that’s the problem or your SSD is defective. Does it perform properly in another machine?

Thanks for all the effort! Yes, Intel ICH8-M AHCI Serial-ATA in my Early 2008 mbp.

My SanDisk Ultra II works as it should in my 2010 Mac Pro, so I doubt it's defective. Seems like it's indeed the slightly different controller of the 960 SanDisk vs. the 240 SanDisk.
 
Good to know. I didn't even know the brand Zheino. Since you recommend it, I'll trust it.
I don’t think you can get Zheino SSDs in e.g. Germany. I’m not seeing any on Amazon.de or eBay.de, but tons on eBay US. That’s worth keeping in mind depending on where you are.

Thanks for all the effort!
I have just ordered a 1 TB BX500 and will throw it into my 2007 MacBook Pro to see if it works properly :D I can always return it if I can’t find a use for it!
 
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That one uses a NVIDIA MCP79 SATA controller, not an Intel ICH8-M. But good to know, since the MCP79 can be fussy with some SSDs.

the Late 2008 17 Inch MacBookPro is one of those Macs that flies under the radar somewhat, twas still a MacBookPro4,1 just with a slight spec bump, the most significant change being was the 1920x1200 high res screen was made the default option

and the HDD options changed (and you could even BTO a 128GB SSD)

an MCP79 based 17 inch MBP did not arrive until Early 2009 :)


searching for a Late 2008 17 inch MBP is a good way to guarantee yourself a nice high res screen if your looking for an ultimate pre-unibody MBP :)
 
@bobesch has several Early 2008 MacBook Pros and is using a 1 TB SSD in one of them IIRC. I'm sure he'll be happy to tell you what SSD it is :)
Yep, thanks! ;)
I'm using a 1TB SSDs from Crucial on my early2008 17" MBP.
No complaints neither with ElCapitan nor with patched Mojave (thought kept the HFS+ partition scheme instead of upgrading to APFS).
Actually I didn't check the speed so far because I didn't feel any need to do that, since file transfer works smooth both for read and write - especially when using USB3-PCExpressCard or FW800 or Gigibit-Ethernet.
 
I don’t think you can get Zheino SSDs in e.g. Germany. I’m not seeing any on Amazon.de or eBay.de, but tons on eBay US. That’s worth keeping in mind depending on where you are.

Yes, you are correct. Unfortunately no delivery to Austria/Central Europe - so that’s why I didn’t know the brand.

I have just ordered a 1 TB BX500 and will throw it into my 2007 MacBook Pro to see if it works properly :D I can always return it if I can’t find a use for it!

Awesome. Seems like this should work. I guess I was just unlucky with that particular SanDisk model in the 2008 mbp. I originally bought it to store 4k (raw) video files while working on them with my 2010 Mac Pro, and that task it did perform well.

For now I have to postpone further tinkering with my 2008 mbp. Like I mentioned earlier, it is our media center in the living room and after about a week of absence my wife and kid demanded its return. :)

So it’s back to its duty, playing DVDs and streaming Prime & Netflix, being used almost daily despite being 14 years old.

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Quick question,

The first late 2009 27': When I look closely into the monitor you can see many squiggly vertical pixelated lines, if you've ever taken an eye test and had to hit the button when you see a squiggle you know what I mean.

Is this a symptom of early large lcd technology or is this panel/GPU slowly failing?
 
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I’m back on my BS (not B S, which is “big spam”) and returned to listening to distant radio on the RTL-SDR USB adapter I bought a year ago, after reading about the @wicknix post exploring a cheap way to listen to shortwave and amateur radio.

I returned after levelling up from the RTL-SDR kit-included rabbit ear antennas to a cheap, but better antenna (running about USD$30) called a Youloop — named not after YT, but after a guy named Youssef who came up with the solution.

The improvement in reception quality using the Youloop, and the reduction on background static noise, is incredible.

Tonight, I’m spending my time trawling the megahertz stumbling across two different kinds of pirate radio: one kind is very much like the film, Pump Up the Volume, in which (so far) three different pirate feeds have been playing music and, earlier, listening to Brazilian dudes hijack geostationary US military satellites to re-transmit back to earth. They’ve been doing this since the mid aughts, and so long as one has line of sight to one of the satellites (there are four), one can pick them up pretty loudly and clearly.

The one I’m listening to, albeit faintly at the moment, is being covered in real time on another forum called HFunderground — a forum dedicated to clandestine radio transmissions. Even though the sound quality for the other two music broadcasts have been stronger signals, it’s more the music picks of this DJ which keep making me smile (what makes me smile isn’t always whether I like the song, but rather the way a DJ picks what they play and how well they keep you on your toes).

To listen, I’m using the current build of gqrx (via Macports) on High Sierra, on my 2013 iMac. I’d much prefer to use a more recent version of gqrx on Snow Lepoard (more recent than, uh, 2013, as later versions began to rely on Qt5.5, which only works with Mountain Lion onward). Later-than-2013 versions, if they could be cobbled together, would allow me to use my A1261 and also bookmark signals I pick up (a feature which didn’t yet exist in the 2013 version), as well as letting me physically move about to find whether I could pick up a better signal (like, say, on a hilltop at a nearby city park).

Anyway, for less than, like, $70 spent over the course of a year, it’s amazing how much fun picking up distant radio can be on older gear. :D
 
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Not per se.

I have a 240 GB SanDisk Ultra II in a 2011 MacBook Pro. I quickly-and-dirtily transferred it to one of my Mid-2007 MacBook Pros (your Early 2008 MacBook Pro has the same ICH8-M SATA controller, doesn't it?) and ran QuickBench:

View attachment 2044062

Write speeds look mostly OK to me (more than 12 MB/s at least...) — the dips are probably because I've been using this drive since 2016 without ever TRIMing it.

The 960 GB Ultra II uses a slightly different controller compared to the 240 GB version (Marvell 88SS9189 vs. 88SS9190). Maybe that’s the problem or your SSD is defective. Does it perform properly in another machine?

Here the benchmarks from my Early2008 17"MBP and the Crucial MX500 1TB SSD ...

Benchmarks Crucial MX500 1TB.png

Edit: Crazy! Here the results from the benchmark-test with a Crucial MX500 2TB SSD and my mid2012 15"MBP9,1
Benchmarks Crucial MX500 on MBP9-1.png
 
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I’m back on my BS (not B S, which is “big spam”) and returned to listening to distant radio on the RTL-SDR USB adapter I bought a year ago, after reading about the @wicknix post exploring a cheap way to listen to shortwave and amateur radio.

I returned after levelling up from the RTL-SDR kit-included rabbit ear antennas to a cheap, but better antenna (running about USD$30) called a Youloop — named not after YT, but after a guy named Youssef who came up with the solution.

The improvement in reception quality using the Youloop, and the reduction on background static noise, is incredible.

Tonight, I’m spending my time trawling the megahertz stumbling across two different kinds of pirate radio: one kind is very much like the film, Pump Up the Volume, in which (so far) three different pirate feeds have been playing music and, earlier, listening to Brazilian dudes hijack geostationary US military satellites to re-transmit back to earth. They’ve been doing this since the mid aughts, and so long as one has line of sight to one of the satellites (there are four), one can pick them up pretty loudly and clearly.

The one I’m listening to, albeit faintly at the moment, is being covered in real time on another forum called HFunderground — a forum dedicated to clandestine radio transmissions. Even though the sound quality for the other two music broadcasts have been stronger signals, it’s more the music picks of this DJ which keep making me smile (what makes me smile isn’t always whether I like the song, but rather the way a DJ picks what they play and how well they keep you on your toes).

To listen, I’m using the current build of gqrx (via Macports) on High Sierra, on my 2013 iMac. I’d much prefer to use a more recent version of gqrx on Snow Lepoard (more recent than, uh, 2013, as later versions began to rely on Qt5.5, which only works with Mountain Lion onward). Later-than-2013 versions, if they could be cobbled together, would allow me to use my A1261 and also bookmark signals I pick up (a feature which didn’t yet exist in the 2013 version), as well as letting me physically move about to find whether I could pick up a better signal (like, say, on a hilltop at a nearby city park).

Anyway, for less than, like, $70 spent over the course of a year, it’s amazing how much fun picking up distant radio can be on older gear. :D

Updating the above combination of RTL-SDR and the Youloop antenna, I was able to finally capture my first-ever digital image from, literally, a radio signal.

Last evening, I recorded the signal for the NOAA-18 weather satellite as it passed fairly close by here. I was hoping the now-abandonware application, WXtoImg, could decode the signal. Unfortunately, I had to sort through a bunch of quirks in learning how decoding works. After tinkering with it for an hour last night, I gave up on it.

Today, after work, I went back to the audio file. The audible file I recorded sounded identical to this reference sample, so I was sure that I’d recorded some usable data. Then I realized something: gqrx records audio in two-channel, 48kHz — not unlike a DAT recorder. The WXtoImg application, meanwhile, only recognizes up to 44.1 kHz — not unlike a CD or AIF/WAV file. So, I brought down the recording to monaural, 44.1 kHz, and suddenly, WXtoImg could parse it:

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The date on the header is wrong: it reflects when I saved that modified file, not when it was recorded (also, it displays as NOAA-19, not NOAA-18). But this was part of the image data I caught last night.

It looks low-res because it’s intended to be a low-res transmission sent at a low frequency (137.9125 MHz, to be precise — just a bit higher from FM broadcasts). The bandwidth is something like 40 kHz (an FM radio station is, like, 160 kHz wide).

The high-res images we’re used to seeing on weather reports and forecasts come from a separate transmission downlink sent at a much higher frequency (I don’t remember the frequency, but it’s something like 2GHz or above — at least on par with wifi- and mobile phone-type frequencies), where much more bandwidth can be used to transmit. Like wifi and mobile devices, GHz-level frequencies is also more susceptible to any solid object blocking the line-of-sight between transmitter (on the satellite) and the receiver (on the ground).

Anyway, I found this exciting, personally, because I didn’t think I could do it. Also, there’s more to to the image than what you see in the screencap (which I’ve attached), but I may be unable to properly decode it (yet) and/or see how it superimposes onto a map. The UI on WXtoImg is pretty clunky, at best, and decades out of date, at worst. But heck, at least it parsed this!

Next thing I hope to learn is how to capture an image from a mode called “SSTV” — “slow-scan television” — which is a technique those aforementioned music radio pirates use to identify themselves before they begin a music show. They’re basically digital-to-analogue colour pictures. As for how decoding those go, I have no idea, but I’m up for the challenge! :D


EDIT to amend! I was wrong about the 48—>44.1 downsample! I tinkered about with the data even further, and looking in some obscure setting panel, was informed that NOAA satellites transmit specifically at 11.025 kHz. So I opened WXtoImg to display “expert” mode. This enabled me to change the satellite to the correct one. Meanwhile, I re-saved the audio data from last night as 11.025 kHz. I also touch’d the file with as close to the moment when I recorded it last night, give or take ten minutes. I opened it, again, in WXtoImg, and LO AND BEHOLD:

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I had to remove the map overlay, because it wasn’t matched up (and even when I used WXtoImg to move the map overlay, the shift in angle was still wrong — my best guess being something related to the North American Datum projection is either unspecified or wrong). The image was much clearer AND the data embedded in that file also included IR cloud-top temperatures!

I am now truly amazed and humbled, but also baffled by what else is buried in all that data.

SECOND UPDATE: I’ve included tonight’s nearest pass of the same satellite. For whatever reason, there seemed to be more interference, but there’s enough visible to give an idea of how weather has moved eastward in the past 24 hours or so.

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In celebration of Spiderweb Software releasing their newest game (Queen's Wish 2: The Tormentor) I unearthed my copies of entire Geneforge Saga and The Second Avernum Trilogy and loaded them up on my wonky "green dot" MacBook Pro 3,1. Hey - might as well enjoy it before the GPU gives out, right? :D
 
So today I figured out a few things.

I want to record my screen with audio. By default, Quicktime will record and it does allow you to choose an audio source. Just not the one coming out of your Mac's speakers or internal audio.

For that you need another piece of the puzzle. You can install Soundflower and rig it so that audio is sent to that and QT gets the audio from Soundflower.

I've used Soundflower before and each time it's screwed up my audio connections. Some digging led to Loopback - which beyond 20 minutes puts noise in the audio. It's $99 for a license. No.

More digging led to BlackHole. Which is free.

You install it, then you open Audio MIDI setup and create a Multi-Output Sound Device. Attach your Built in Output (make sure it's set as primary and is the first one listed) and then Add BlackHole with the Drift Correction box checked. If you have speakers attached to your Mac you want to use the Built in LINE Output or Built in Digital Output, depending on which one you're using.

Then you either use QT to record and use BlackHole as the input source, or find some other screen recording app.

Hey, guess what? OBS.

This app is versatile and gives you lots of options. I made the mistake of putting the Input source under the Mic/Aux and NOT the Desktop. I spent two restarts and about two hours chasing this before I got sound recording working perfectly - once I figured that part out.

Incidentally, if you're using OBS you'll need to set the Monitor correctly to hear the sound as you record it. Only just now figured THAT one out.

I know there are paid screen recorders out there and there are other apps which are more specific to what I actually want to do. But this will work and it's all free.
 
Since I wanted to leave my 2008 mbp at its media center duty for now I started looking for a new toy. I found a Mid 2010 C2D MacBook locally and got an ok deal. It's in great condition, just minor cracks at the hinges. Even the rubber bottom looks clean & new, the power supply still has the protective plastic on it! So I figured € 90,- is a good deal. I always loved the design of the white UniBody MacBooks, I even got a white case for my iPhone to mimic the design. Since it's also the last white Mac I think it's quite the collectible. It came with only 4gb ram and a 320gb spinner, but will soon have 16 gb ram and a SSD. I'm very happy with it. :)

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@chaosbunny
Is it A1342? AFAIK A1342 can't handle more that 8 Gb RAM & it have to be ddr3-1066.

The Mid-2010 MacBook, 13” MacBook Pro and Mac mini can handle 16 GB.

Thank you for your replies. I just looked it up to be safe: https://everymac.com/systems/apple/...e-unibody-how-to-upgrade-ram-memory-type.html

According to everymac.com Apple only officially supports a maximum of 4 GB of RAM in both lines. However, site sponsor Other World Computer has discovered that the "Late 2009" (MacBook6,1) model actually is capable of supporting 8 GB of RAM. Likewise, OWC has determined that the "Mid-2010" (MacBook7,1) model actually supports 8 GB of RAM running Mac OS X 10.6 "Snow Leopard" and 16 GB of RAM running OS X 10.7.5 "Lion" or higher and the latest EFI update.

Since I'm planning to run High Sierra and mess with OCLP I should be safe. Also, the 16gb I ordered from Amazon were advertised for the Mid 2010 MacBook.
 
@chaosbunny Beautiful laptop. I actually just purchased my first Mac ever and it was also the A1342 2010 Macbook. I had always wanted one with the white design and decided to jump in given how cheap these are. After some cleaning, it looks decent now.

It came with 8gb of ram and I swapped out the HD for a 512GB SSD and am surprised at how zippy it is.

Are you using High Sierra? I have been thinking of upgrading to Catalina, but am not sure about the benefits.
 
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