You know this is a solid point. I wouldn't even consider cars that didn't have it when I got my current car.
Well, the universe finally intervened today when he visited me at the bar i worked at and later left his phone on the roof and it went flying (we live literally across the street so he was fine to drive)
Thanks for posing the question! I will say, I could live without it, but I really enjoy the Dynamic Island. It’s just such a charming, enjoyable, useful piece of UIFor me, it would be at least 128 GB (minimum) storage. We were really balling with 16 GB iphones even less than 10 years ago lol.
So my rommmate/best friend has been using an iphone 6 for the last 9 years. 16 GB at that. Just constantly deleting **** all the time or dealing with apps that don't necessarily work anymore properly.
For him, it really just worked so he never bothered to upgrade.
Well, the universe finally intervened today when he visited me at the bar i worked at and later left his phone on the roof and it went flying (we live literally across the street so he was fine to drive) and someone ran over it. The phone surprisingly still works albeit completely bonkers screen but after convincing him to treat himself and move to the actual new age, we went to the apple store.
Homie JUST got an iphone 15 Pro Max today (he got something better than me) and immediately he was caught off guard with the lack of Touch ID and the gestures.
1. Minimum 256GB storage: My first iPhone was 6s plus. I bought 64 GB storage. But after I got XS Max, I never went back to anything less than 256GB StorageFor me, it would be at least 128 GB (minimum) storage. We were really balling with 16 GB iphones even less than 10 years ago lol.
So my rommmate/best friend has been using an iphone 6 for the last 9 years. 16 GB at that. Just constantly deleting **** all the time or dealing with apps that don't necessarily work anymore properly.
For him, it really just worked so he never bothered to upgrade.
Well, the universe finally intervened today when he visited me at the bar i worked at and later left his phone on the roof and it went flying (we live literally across the street so he was fine to drive) and someone ran over it. The phone surprisingly still works albeit completely bonkers screen but after convincing him to treat himself and move to the actual new age, we went to the apple store.
Homie JUST got an iphone 15 Pro Max today (he got something better than me) and immediately he was caught off guard with the lack of Touch ID and the gestures.
…the durability…
In my experience yes, and I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen someone walking around with a cracked screen. 5 years ago or so I’d say 4 out of 10 phones I saw out and about had cracked screens.Has there really been a notable improvement in durability over the past few iterations? If there has been, I guess I am missing it. I’m still disappointed in Apple’s kingdom of geniuses and future-lookers they still sell the equivalent of glass cars without bumpers... but I bet the genius marketers and accountants congratulate themselves every year at Bonus time for still fooling the world into purchasing an unprotected glass version of the object they carry around (and drop) more than their car keys and thoughts.
Back when phones set on a table or desk and prime to be “gussied up” as shiny decor in some fashion, they weren’t made of fragile glass. Ah but I guess the makers of those plastic phones weren’t caught in the shareholder revenue growth expectations Apple is snared in.![]()
In my experience yes, and I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen someone walking around with a cracked screen. 5 years ago or so I’d say 4 out of 10 phones I saw out and about had cracked screens.
My college students have some wrecked, wretched iPhone screens.In my experience yes, and I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen someone walking around with a cracked screen. 5 years ago or so I’d say 4 out of 10 phones I saw out and about had cracked screens.
Me personally I use a crappy clear plastic case on my phone, drop it constantly and haven’t had a problem. Something I can’t say about my previous phones. Maybe the 11 was just the pinnacle of durability for them? As for others, at least people I interact with they keep their phones longer than before. I rarely see people buying a phone every year or two like I did say 4-5 years ago.Gotcha. I agree that the water resistance durability has increased, thankfully! And glass, over the years.
Although, respectfully, couldn't what you see also be a result of other factors such as:
FWIW, adding to my subjective food for thought above, I looked for articles about "historical iPhone durability" and "iPhone 15 durability" and only found "worse now in certain ways" sentiment and little "has never been better" sentiment.
- Users simply replacing/upgrading more often than 5 years ago for many reasons (more compelling features...stronger desire to have the latest...FOMO...better financial incentives from carriers to keep people in the upgrade stream...perhaps some worsening in the price or ease of battery replacements)
- Easier and/or less expensive buy-to-own replacement options than 5 years ago (with more phones sold, there could be more refurbished and pre-owned stock)
- Improved user behavior to be more careful after another 5 years on top of the the prior 2007-2017 decade of learning that glass Swarovski phones are (unfortunately) here to stay, so we better adapt with our care towards our phones or pay the price
"Recently, a series of drop tests carried out in Australia suggested that the iPhone 14 Pro is far more robust than the iPhone 15 Pro and now Zack Nelson has posted a video on his JerryRigEverything YouTube channel which indicates that the iPhone 15 Pro Max should be handled with care."![]()
iPhone 15 Pro Max miserably fails durability test
The iPhone 15 Pro Max performs worse than any iPhone in recent memory in a durability test.www.phonearena.com
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The titanium iPhone 15 Pro feels much lighter – but it won’t be much tougher
Don't get too excited by the strength of titaniumwww.techradar.com
"Technically, aluminum is less durable than the stainless steel chassis. It’s true. However, for a smartphone, it does the job. In fact, aluminum is sometimes preferred by phone manufacturers like Apple for its softer material, which makes it easier to manufacture and therefore cheaper and more affordable for consumers.![]()
iPhone Durability: Which Phone is Most Durable?
Pela breaks down what to look for when shopping for a durable iPhone, from the Ceramic Shield screens to stainless steel metal bodies. Read more here.pelacase.com
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iPhone 15 Pro Max durability test ends with big surprise
Zack Nelson's smartphone durability tests are legendary. And this one on the new iPhone 15 Pro Max ends in an unexpected way.www.digitaltrends.com
Incredible that a small cutout in the screen evokes this much of a response. The notch/dynamic island allows us to have more screen space rather than a giant bezel at the top of the display by moving the clock and status area to opposite corners of the camera instead of taking up a row of status bar space below the giant bezel where the cameras are. I don't understand why this is such an issue. The alternative of having huge bezels above the screen sounds awful and very dated at this point. The notch/island didn't take anything away from you. It ADDED screen area you didn't have before.How about the one “feature” that makes you hate Apple products?
For me, and I am only saying for me, it’s the notch/dynamic black hole! I can’t stand it. I want so badly for Apple to put FaceID under the display so it doesn’t ruin my experience with the display. I love my Nothing Phone and its beautiful display. I would happily put an A17 Pro SoC in the Nothing Phone and run iOS and be much happier. I would also be much happier with a Galaxy Ultra running the A17 Pro and iOS.
I guess I have disliked Apple’s hardware and loved the ecosystem for years as I really don’t find the hardware from a physical design standpoint even good. They take some amazing parts and ruin the user experience with stupid design language decisions.
It’s like the new MacBook Pros with HDMI and SD Card slots. I would prefer another Thunderbolt to the SD Card slot for sure. And in the M1 Macs, the HDMI 2.0 really ruined the experience. As it was less capable than a Thunderbolt port. Now, can make a case for the HDMI 2.1 port. But the NOTCH is a major step back. I have a black wallpaper, and I hide the Menu Bar. And I just don’t want to have to see it for anything. Again, Apple trying to ensure everyone knows you’re using a Mac by destroying the user experience.
The M series SoCs are quite amazing. Apple would be better off with spending some money hiring back Forestall and find some creatives who can design an authentically great user experience from the hardware design perspective as Apple dominates when it comes to the actual SoC but have to again ruin the display experience.
Such choices are all about money now to line the pockets of Timmy. $100m per year in stock grants. Life must be tough destroying the future of the company for money now. I suppose it’s the nature of shareholders in these mega corporations.
How about the one “feature” that makes you hate Apple products?
My $18 Anker Roav in my 2014 Yukon beats CarPlay in my '23 Odyssey. I'd say it might be a dead heat for anything with wireless CarPlay but you can't beat wireless connectivity in a 10 year old truck. It's not worth buying a brand new vehicle. I could probably even upgrade to a new head unit in the truck and get the same kind of app connectivity on a screen if I wanted and still not have to buy a new car for it.CarPlay. Otherwise I could probably get by on an Original iPhone 2G.