What is Android going to do when iPad/iPhone is able to multi-task?

[frankjl]

The iphone's multitasking is a joke. No way does it compare to the likes of webos or android. Even this early in development I can see double tapping will be a hassle. The multitask tab is also a quick app drawer. So besides having runing applications youll have a list of apps as well.

Far from intuitive.

I believe android will continue to advertise their walking and chewing gum ways
without a problem.


Also I already see apple needing a complete overwrite of the iphone os to accommodate modern times. The whole 1 app at a time idea was bad from the get go and they are starting to see they rode that wave far too long. Features on iphone 4.0 feel like forced hacks. Like they dont belong with the O.S. A jailbroken iphone is what apple should give us.

But the stock phone does not have the right libs or resources to make magic happen and unfortuntely the ipad while great will suffer from the same limitations.

 

[v3rn]

Android is adding features and getting better at a much faster rate than the iPhone OS. The iPhone will continue to play catch up when it comes to features on Android. The only problem with Android right now is that the UI isn't as nice as the iPhone. But Google is now working on fixing that. You can see it with the Gallery app in the new 2.1 update. They've even came out and said they are now starting to work on a more uniform UI that carries over from app to app. So once that is done, I don't think there is much that the iPhone does better than Android except apps. But Android is catching up to the App Store very quickly.

But the biggest thing Android has over the iPhone OS: it's open. There is nobody restricting what I put on my phone. Nobody telling me what I should and shouldn't be using. Nobody there to tell me how to use my phone. Yes, there are guidelines to put an app on the market, but you can download and install apps to your phone from outside the market extremely easily.

 

[flyguy206]

keep improving, keep growing at a massive rate, have more phones of higher quality than apple's, and take over in marketshare. Plus, their apps will reach apples pretty soon. its an awesome system, i love how its made to customize. Apple will change their ways soon enough, android and windows phone 7 are both going to be pretty huge competitors.

Do you understand. That they will stop improving it when they have half of the market. You android guys don't understand that. You guys should worry about how big android is getting. Because they way it looks is half of the smart phones out their will be android. You guys think that it will improve when it gets more market share. That just sounds dumb.

 

[v3rn]

Do you understand. That they will stop improving it when they have half of the market. You android guys don't understand that. You guys should worry about how big android is getting. Because they way it looks is half of the smart phones out their will be android. You guys think that it will improve when it gets more market share. That just sounds dumb.

Have you spoken to the executives at Google about this? This is important news if you know something that nobody else knows. You can't just make up something and use it as an argument lol. If Google stops innovating even after they gain the market share, they will just lose the market share again. That doesn't even make sense. As long as there is competition, these operating systems will keep getting better.

Instead of saying something sounds dumb, pull out your grammar books and study them a bit more before you post again. And if your primary language isn't English, I apologize.

 

[flyguy206]

Have you spoken to the executives at Google about this? This is important news if you know something that nobody else knows. You can't just make up something and use it as an argument lol. If Google stops innovating even after they gain the market share, they will just lose the market share again. That doesn't even make sense. As long as there is competition, these operating systems will keep getting better.

Instead of saying something sounds dumb, pull out your grammar books and study them a bit more before you post again. And if your primary language isn't English, I apologize.

You are the one not making any sense. The android os is on numerous smart phones. so it does not matter if your comption is better then you if you have more products on the maket. now why would a company upgrade anything if they don't have to.

 

[antwon412]

You are the one not making any sense. The android os is on numerous smart phones. so it does not matter if your comption is better then you if you have more products on the maket. now why would a company upgrade anything if they don't have to.

They always have too. thats how technology works. You create something, then improve on it. And everyone else does as well.

you improve on it to make it better. more reliable, to be more usefull to the end user...to support new technology.

 

[nuckinfutz]

Well with my Hero, I can download several apps from the market while browsing the internet and replying to IMs while Pandora runs. Cant do that on an iPhone. Even 4.0 wont be true multitasking. It will be pause state, resume. That means that you cant start downloading something and then leave it and do something else and let it finish. It will pause that download until you make it your active app again, then it will resume downloading. That is not really multitasking.

LOL "true multitasking" what exactly is that supposed to me. Let's define multitasking as it appears in the dictionary.

Multitasking :

the concurrent or interleaved execution of two or more Jobs by a single CPU


If I can play music right now on my 3Gs and surf on the internet how is this, by definition, not true? The iPhone has done multitasking for a long time it is only now that 3rd party developers have tools to hop onboard. Task Completion takes care of the scenario you mention (where the hell where you early April when Apple demoed the iPhone 4 OS features?). VOIP can run in the background, audio can run in the background, location services can run in the background.

Stop with this nonsense about "true multitasking" it makes you sound uninformed.

The iphone's multitasking is a joke. No way does it compare to the likes of webos or android. Even this early in development I can see double tapping will be a hassle. The multitask tab is also a quick app drawer. So besides having runing applications youll have a list of apps as well.

Far from intuitive.

I believe android will continue to advertise their walking and chewing gum ways
without a problem.


Also I already see apple needing a complete overwrite of the iphone os to accommodate modern times. The whole 1 app at a time idea was bad from the get go and they are starting to see they rode that wave far too long. Features on iphone 4.0 feel like forced hacks. Like they dont belong with the O.S. A jailbroken iphone is what apple should give us.

What in the world are you jabbering about? You launch into a diatribe about multitasking and then switch over to a rant about Fast App Switching. You're talking about two different features chief. Please..focus yourself and next time you sit down to post try to make a more cogent argument. It's hard to take you seriously when you have such a hard time articulating your point.

Android is adding features and getting better at a much faster rate than the iPhone OS. The iPhone will continue to play catch up when it comes to features on Android. The only problem with Android right now is that the UI isn't as nice as the iPhone. But Google is now working on fixing that. You can see it with the Gallery app in the new 2.1 update. They've even came out and said they are now starting to work on a more uniform UI that carries over from app to app. So once that is done, I don't think there is much that the iPhone does better than Android except apps. But Android is catching up to the App Store very quickly.

But the biggest thing Android has over the iPhone OS: it's open. There is nobody restricting what I put on my phone. Nobody telling me what I should and shouldn't be using. Nobody there to tell me how to use my phone. Yes, there are guidelines to put an app on the market, but you can download and install apps to your phone from outside the market extremely easily.

Here's another common occurrence. v3rn start out with a statement about Android adding features and getting better at a much faster rate than that of the iPhone. Without supporting this statement with corroborating fact. Next a discussion about UI with the acknowledgment that Google is working on a fix for that. Wouldn't Apple have the same ability to fix their UI, or whatever other feature they wish for that matter, to their benefit as well?

Finally there's the "So once that is done, I don't think there is much the iPhone does better than Android except apps". Judging from the lack of balance in your post and missing technical acumen it is of no surprise that you are failing to think about what the iPhone does better than the Android. In order to compare and contrast effectively you must be in the middle and able to peer in both directions to see the full spectrum.

 

[nuckinfutz]

Summary

I feel that Android will continue to grab market and mindshare in 2010. I think it's a technically sound mobile OS that's a little chunky on the UI front. Android's multitasking is solid and so is Apple's iPhone OS 4 multitasking. Both accomplish the same goal yet take different roads to get there (Android uses more of a client/server model, Apple "bakes" the multitasking into the new API)

Some people are fans of widgets and others are not. It's really a subjective and personal choice. Only Apple developers have access to the API changes in the iPhone OS 4 and they're under NDA. Apple has delivered 1500 new API so that refutes any argument that Apple is developing features at a slower rate. I've read comments from veteran developers that iPhone OS 4 is the largest iPhone OS release they've seen. There's a lot in the new OS to leverage.

I am happy that Android is getting stronger because competition brings out the best of the human spirit. Android, RIM's Blackberry, Microsoft WinMobile and more are all well funded and strong platform. Apple will continue to have to work hard to leverage their strength which is not just the iPhone but rather the whole ecosystem that includes the Macintosh. They will also need to be on Verizon in 2011 and possibly another US carrier as well.

Android needs to be more unified and this flies in the face of their open strategy. The advantage of a single vendor is that decisions are made and plans carried out more quickly than a committee. I'm not a fan of unsigned apps being downloadable from websites on a phone. When I buy groceries I head to a grocery store that centralizes the items I need. I don't buy my apples from the apple orchard and then drive down the road and buy corn off the stalk. The same principal works for mobile phone software distribution. Small software developers need to rid themselves of the idea that they can market effectively enough to generate the kind of sales that a centralized store offers. Few can but most cannot. Apple's store hasn't been open that much larger than the Android Market yet Apple enjoys 3x + more apps. They made it as easy to buy and install apps as it is to buy music. The sales speak for themselves.

The next two years will be fun. There's certainly room for multiple providers. Monopolies are not cool IMO.

 

[Godzirra!]

Do you understand. That they will stop improving it when they have half of the market. You android guys don't understand that. You guys should worry about how big android is getting. Because they way it looks is half of the smart phones out their will be android. You guys think that it will improve when it gets more market share. That just sounds dumb.

im not an android guy, i just like the best product available. A more mainstream consumer. Same reason i own a zune hd over an ipod touch. Sure, it does alot more as far as apps. but the music experience cannot come close. cant wait to see what win 7 brings. Apple has has next to no innovation going on. Multitasking will be a pain. I am gonna buy a 3g ipad, but its just to have one until later this year/ next year when i can get a decent android or win 7 tablet. Iphone OS is gonna lose alot of marketshare until they stop being nazis with everything they do. Right now if i get sick of my droid, i can go buy 10 other phones and transfer all my apps to it no problem. This is not possible with the iphone. Its not that much more high quality of an experience, if at all. All the iphone has on a droid or the upcoming incredible is the slightly better multitouch experience and a better music app. The iphone multitasking is gonna suck, i like being able to just go home, choose an app, switch to another one real fast, and get right back to what i was doing without scrolling through a stupid dock.

 

[sinsin07]

What is Android going to do when iPad/iPhone is able to multi-task?

Keep on selling. Iphone is on one carrier, Android on multiple. Not everybody likes ATT and or gets good coverage in their area. Multitasking is just "a" selling point.

 

[frankjl]

LOL "true multitasking" what exactly is that supposed to me. Let's define multitasking as it appears in the dictionary.

Multitasking :

the concurrent or interleaved execution of two or more Jobs by a single CPU


If I can play music right now on my 3Gs and surf on the internet how is this, by definition, not true? The iPhone has done multitasking for a long time it is only now that 3rd party developers have tools to hop onboard. Task Completion takes care of the scenario you mention (where the hell where you early April when Apple demoed the iPhone 4 OS features?). VOIP can run in the background, audio can run in the background, location services can run in the background.

Stop with this nonsense about "true multitasking" it makes you sound uninformed.



What in the world are you jabbering about? You launch into a diatribe about multitasking and then switch over to a rant about Fast App Switching. You're talking about two different features chief. Please..focus yourself and next time you sit down to post try to make a more cogent argument. It's hard to take you seriously when you have such a hard time articulating your point.



Here's another common occurrence. v3rn start out with a statement about Android adding features and getting better at a much faster rate than that of the iPhone. Without supporting this statement with corroborating fact. Next a discussion about UI with the acknowledgment that Google is working on a fix for that. Wouldn't Apple have the same ability to fix their UI, or whatever other feature they wish for that matter, to their benefit as well?

Finally there's the "So once that is done, I don't think there is much the iPhone does better than Android except apps". Judging from the lack of balance in your post and missing technical acumen it is of no surprise that you are failing to think about what the iPhone does better than the Android. In order to compare and contrast effectively you must be in the middle and able to peer in both directions to see the full spectrum.

English is not my main language sorry.

Hey you got my points.

 

[sinsin07]

Do you understand. That they will stop improving it when they have half of the market. You android guys don't understand that. You guys should worry about how big android is getting. Because they way it looks is half of the smart phones out their will be android. You guys think that it will improve when it gets more market share. That just sounds dumb.

Huh? This is sheer speculation, and very bad at that.

 

[nuckinfutz]

English is not my main language sorry.

Hey you got my points.

Oh ...my apologies. As a monolingual person I say your English is pretty damn good.


I think multitasking on a smartphone is so different than a computer (that runs multiple windows) it is going to feel different. I may be wrong on my viewpoint and if so I will publicly say so.

I don't mean to be so snarky I just get testy because i'm always trying to learn and I do respect other people's opinions even if they differ from mine.

 

[kirchnrd]

What is this "android"?