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What is keeping you guys from going back to iOS?
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Screen size, no question! Love my S4 but I miss many things about iOS. We'll see what Apple does with iPhone 6. I can't imagine they would be arrogant enough to ignore the hardware trend. Keep the small iPhone for people who want it but provide a choice with a larger phone.
Sold my 4s over the weekend so I'm finally all in with android now (some nut job gave me $350 on Craigslist for 16gb 4s lol). It would probably take a new jailbreak for iOS 7 with a 5" screen. Anything less would be unacceptable.
I'm not sure that they would be arrogant to keep it the current size. Maybe there are some people out there who like the current size. Also they have sold a shed load of iPhones in the past year, which could indicate that those consumers are perfectly happy with the current screen size.
I've only switched my tablet over, but:
Content censorship, lack of a file system, lack of cross device sharing, lack of being able to change default applications.
Content censorship, lack of a file system, lack of cross device sharing, lack of being able to change default applications.
iOS user (2008-2013)
Reason why I may never go back to iOS or even any Apple products for that matter.
-iTunes
I've used iTunes, Zune, MediaMonkey, DoubleTwist, MediaGo, etc. I feel iTunes gives me the best organization but it also slowed down my Windows laptop and Apple keeps forcing me to use it just to add or delete media files on them.
My laptop broke last year with my iPhone sync to that. I got it replaced with another with all my files backed up from a microSD but the iTunes 10+ slowed it down to a crawl at 100% CPU usage. So I couldnt add songs or photos onto my iPhone 4 anymore unless I killed iTunes.
Then I requested an unlock code from AT&T free of charge. But in order for my 3-year iPhone 4 to be unlocked, I had to upgrade to iOS6 and then restore. So now my iPhone 4 has only apps, zero media files except pix in my camera roll, and iOS6 that lags. So eventually I uninstalled that bloatware and Trojan horse for Apple's ecosystem called iTunes and my laptop runs fast again.
And nomore SharePod just to remove files from iPhone since it cant be read as mass storage. I'm aware of the work arounds but drag & drop/copy & paste files is so much easier.
If iOS werent so reliant on iTunes, I might still use them.
Reason why I may never go back to iOS or even any Apple products for that matter.
-iTunes
I've used iTunes, Zune, MediaMonkey, DoubleTwist, MediaGo, etc. I feel iTunes gives me the best organization but it also slowed down my Windows laptop and Apple keeps forcing me to use it just to add or delete media files on them.
My laptop broke last year with my iPhone sync to that. I got it replaced with another with all my files backed up from a microSD but the iTunes 10+ slowed it down to a crawl at 100% CPU usage. So I couldnt add songs or photos onto my iPhone 4 anymore unless I killed iTunes.
Then I requested an unlock code from AT&T free of charge. But in order for my 3-year iPhone 4 to be unlocked, I had to upgrade to iOS6 and then restore. So now my iPhone 4 has only apps, zero media files except pix in my camera roll, and iOS6 that lags. So eventually I uninstalled that bloatware and Trojan horse for Apple's ecosystem called iTunes and my laptop runs fast again.
And nomore SharePod just to remove files from iPhone since it cant be read as mass storage. I'm aware of the work arounds but drag & drop/copy & paste files is so much easier.
If iOS werent so reliant on iTunes, I might still use them.
This:
And this:
The few things iOS does better than Android doesn't win over the many things that Android does better than iOS. It's just that simple.
I started this thread a while back: "What Would Make You Return to the iPhone?" I think a lot of it still holds.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1501886/
And this:
The few things iOS does better than Android doesn't win over the many things that Android does better than iOS. It's just that simple.
I started this thread a while back: "What Would Make You Return to the iPhone?" I think a lot of it still holds.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1501886/
Lack of a proper file system and the associated ability to work with files. If I want to download a file on my phone and later send it to my computer, I should be able to do it just as easily as I can on Android. Likewise the interplay between apps is just terrible.
Not being able to choose which apps I want to use as main browser, email client etc and also having them crippled in JS performance compared to Safari is annoying.
iOS 7 doesn't seem to improve this situation at all, instead just giving us a really poorly done visual redesign and a select few features that have been available as jailbreak apps for years. This is not the kind of innovation Apple used to do.
It's lots of little things that make iOS suck on an iPhone. I still use the iPad as I feel Android tablet apps are not as good quality and abundant as the ones available on iPad.
Android has plenty of issues too but as a smartphone platform, right now it's nicer than iOS.
Not being able to choose which apps I want to use as main browser, email client etc and also having them crippled in JS performance compared to Safari is annoying.
iOS 7 doesn't seem to improve this situation at all, instead just giving us a really poorly done visual redesign and a select few features that have been available as jailbreak apps for years. This is not the kind of innovation Apple used to do.
It's lots of little things that make iOS suck on an iPhone. I still use the iPad as I feel Android tablet apps are not as good quality and abundant as the ones available on iPad.
Android has plenty of issues too but as a smartphone platform, right now it's nicer than iOS.
Screen size
no sd slot
no removable battery
Note 3 should be my next phone, i hope it will be a nice reward after 4 years of waiting
^^^^^^^^^^
What he said.......throw in a notification light, widgets and 4.5 to 5 inch screen. Also Apple needs to have more frequent hardware updates. Maybe go to a 6 month release cycle. SD Card.....the ability to block callers and texters. The general ability to customize my phone to my liking....
This is one side of the argument against increasing the screen size beyond the current 4". I get it, too. But I don't really buy that people pick the iPhone over larger Android phones because they like the 4" (or even 3.5") screen.
IMO, they pick the iPhone because that's what they get...in other words, they don't have a choice for a larger screened iPhone. They like the iOS ecosystem and the way the iPhone works.
What I think would be very interesting is if Apple broke their mold and brought out a 4.7"-5" iPhone and sold it along side the 4" iPhone 5. Heck, give it the same specs top to bottom as the iPhone 5. Then you'd have a true test of whether people really prefer the smaller screen size. I may be wrong, but I believe if they did that, you'd see the bigger screened iPhone outsell the smaller one 2, 3, 4 to 1 (maybe even more than that).
I just don't think screen size is a reason people STAY with the iPhone...it's more of a reason why people LEAVE. I know we have some vocal members here that griped and screamed when they went to the 4" screen...they said 3.5" was perfect. But how many of them now use the 4" iPhone 5 and don't complain a bit? I'd be willing to bet the number is high.
Says you........The HTC One and Moto X and..........ok so two flagship phones. So how many Android phones have a SD card? Yeah............thought so. So how many IOS devices have a SD card?
I remember when Steve Jobs said iPhone was 5 years ahead. That was 2007. Now Apple has been playing catchup ever since last year. Jelly Bean was one of the greatest things to ever happen to Android.
Seems like Android grew up and offered you more. What was once iOS' stuttering cousin went from ugly duckling to a beautiful swan. The one to marry since it offered beyond more than "looks." It simply aged better. Google didnt stop. They kept improving Android. Apple got lazy and while iOS might be pretty, but it offers less depth. It didnt get smarter fast enough. Seems iOS really is catered like a mobile OS for dummies and people who want to play games and happen to be STUCK in Apple lion's den. I've heard all the complaints abt Android and all the reasons why folks switch back to iOS. Lag, ecosystem, just works, polish, better apps, better design, etc. Yet the outcry is starting to become less and less now with Android in 2013 compared to 2010-2011.
I'm looking at my MIUI icon pack and I feel the icons I chose look much nicer than iOS' current default icons or the hideous ones found on iOS7. Looks cleaner. I can make the font smaller and change the names of each app. Hide what I dont usually use. Even Google Play's App Backup and Restore, ES File Explorer, or TouchPal Contacts are far more useful than anything I got from Apple's App Store since 2008.
Apple's mantra of simplicity became stupid and lacking...
Seems like Android grew up and offered you more. What was once iOS' stuttering cousin went from ugly duckling to a beautiful swan. The one to marry since it offered beyond more than "looks." It simply aged better. Google didnt stop. They kept improving Android. Apple got lazy and while iOS might be pretty, but it offers less depth. It didnt get smarter fast enough. Seems iOS really is catered like a mobile OS for dummies and people who want to play games and happen to be STUCK in Apple lion's den. I've heard all the complaints abt Android and all the reasons why folks switch back to iOS. Lag, ecosystem, just works, polish, better apps, better design, etc. Yet the outcry is starting to become less and less now with Android in 2013 compared to 2010-2011.
I'm looking at my MIUI icon pack and I feel the icons I chose look much nicer than iOS' current default icons or the hideous ones found on iOS7. Looks cleaner. I can make the font smaller and change the names of each app. Hide what I dont usually use. Even Google Play's App Backup and Restore, ES File Explorer, or TouchPal Contacts are far more useful than anything I got from Apple's App Store since 2008.
Apple's mantra of simplicity became stupid and lacking...
es file explorer alone could be reason enough not to go back to iOS 
(especially if you're rooted)
that app can do so much it's rediculous
(especially if you're rooted)that app can do so much it's rediculous
Some great points being made in this thread. Forgot about the inability to block numbers, change your icons, etc. Changing your icons is a really nice feature.
With respect to screen size, I don't think anyone is saying that Apple should ditch the 4" screen entirely. It just makes total sense to include a 4.7"-5" model in conjunction with the 4" model. I think this is what Apple will do in 2014. It's just a shame that we have to wait until then. The larger iPhone should have come last fall and not in 2014.
With respect to screen size, I don't think anyone is saying that Apple should ditch the 4" screen entirely. It just makes total sense to include a 4.7"-5" model in conjunction with the 4" model. I think this is what Apple will do in 2014. It's just a shame that we have to wait until then. The larger iPhone should have come last fall and not in 2014.
iOS just feels locked down to me... I enjoy changing anything besides some wallpaper and group some apps together.
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for me it was a crescendo of frustration.
1. ios became beyond complicated with icloud.
2. maps
3. google's free services (at the time) weren't available
3. customization
4. notifications
5. one screen size
6. just plain boredom
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i also didn't mind steve jobs' dicktatude, but not cook and crew's pompousness.
1. ios became beyond complicated with icloud.
2. maps
3. google's free services (at the time) weren't available
3. customization
4. notifications
5. one screen size
6. just plain boredom
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i also didn't mind steve jobs' dicktatude, but not cook and crew's pompousness.