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JoeBlow74

macrumors regular
Aug 2, 2012
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With the 16 gigs of internal and up to 64 gigs of external memory, I say the Note 2 wins.
 

Tikatika

macrumors 6502a
Mar 12, 2012
712
797
Northern California
Screen size, no question! Love my S4 but I miss many things about iOS. We'll see what Apple does with iPhone 6. I can't imagine they would be arrogant enough to ignore the hardware trend. Keep the small iPhone for people who want it but provide a choice with a larger phone.
 

Dontazemebro

macrumors 68020
Jul 23, 2010
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0
I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
Sold my 4s over the weekend so I'm finally all in with android now (some nut job gave me $350 on Craigslist for 16gb 4s lol). It would probably take a new jailbreak for iOS 7 with a 5" screen. Anything less would be unacceptable.
 

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
14,725
13,245
UK
Screen size, no question! Love my S4 but I miss many things about iOS. We'll see what Apple does with iPhone 6. I can't imagine they would be arrogant enough to ignore the hardware trend. Keep the small iPhone for people who want it but provide a choice with a larger phone.

I'm not sure that they would be arrogant to keep it the current size. Maybe there are some people out there who like the current size. Also they have sold a shed load of iPhones in the past year, which could indicate that those consumers are perfectly happy with the current screen size.
 

The Phazer

macrumors 68040
Oct 31, 2007
3,008
977
London, UK
I've only switched my tablet over, but:

Content censorship, lack of a file system, lack of cross device sharing, lack of being able to change default applications.
 

Savor

Suspended
Jun 18, 2010
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iOS user (2008-2013)

Reason why I may never go back to iOS or even any Apple products for that matter.

-iTunes

I've used iTunes, Zune, MediaMonkey, DoubleTwist, MediaGo, etc. I feel iTunes gives me the best organization but it also slowed down my Windows laptop and Apple keeps forcing me to use it just to add or delete media files on them.

My laptop broke last year with my iPhone sync to that. I got it replaced with another with all my files backed up from a microSD but the iTunes 10+ slowed it down to a crawl at 100% CPU usage. So I couldnt add songs or photos onto my iPhone 4 anymore unless I killed iTunes.

Then I requested an unlock code from AT&T free of charge. But in order for my 3-year iPhone 4 to be unlocked, I had to upgrade to iOS6 and then restore. So now my iPhone 4 has only apps, zero media files except pix in my camera roll, and iOS6 that lags. So eventually I uninstalled that bloatware and Trojan horse for Apple's ecosystem called iTunes and my laptop runs fast again.

And nomore SharePod just to remove files from iPhone since it cant be read as mass storage. I'm aware of the work arounds but drag & drop/copy & paste files is so much easier.

If iOS werent so reliant on iTunes, I might still use them.
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
7,382
2
This:

Paying more for a device that can do much less.

And this:

I'm quite content with Android and thus I doubt iOS will be able to sway me to that platform.


The few things iOS does better than Android doesn't win over the many things that Android does better than iOS. It's just that simple.

I started this thread a while back: "What Would Make You Return to the iPhone?" I think a lot of it still holds.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1501886/
 

kasakka

macrumors 68020
Oct 25, 2008
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Lack of a proper file system and the associated ability to work with files. If I want to download a file on my phone and later send it to my computer, I should be able to do it just as easily as I can on Android. Likewise the interplay between apps is just terrible.

Not being able to choose which apps I want to use as main browser, email client etc and also having them crippled in JS performance compared to Safari is annoying.

iOS 7 doesn't seem to improve this situation at all, instead just giving us a really poorly done visual redesign and a select few features that have been available as jailbreak apps for years. This is not the kind of innovation Apple used to do.

It's lots of little things that make iOS suck on an iPhone. I still use the iPad as I feel Android tablet apps are not as good quality and abundant as the ones available on iPad.

Android has plenty of issues too but as a smartphone platform, right now it's nicer than iOS.
 

Twixt

macrumors 6502
May 30, 2012
471
11
For my self it is lack of communication between apps. What about you guys?

Screen size
no sd slot
no removable battery

Note 3 should be my next phone, i hope it will be a nice reward after 4 years of waiting
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
16,078
19,077
US
Lack of basic customizations, lack of intents, small lower res screens, lack of expandable memory, less modularity compared to Android, and the painful absence of a real keyboard!!!

A launcher and ability to share to whatever apps I feel like using could make me take a look again once you can replace the iOS keyboard. Basically it's dead to me without a jailbreak.
^^^^^^^^^^
What he said.......throw in a notification light, widgets and 4.5 to 5 inch screen. Also Apple needs to have more frequent hardware updates. Maybe go to a 6 month release cycle. SD Card.....the ability to block callers and texters. The general ability to customize my phone to my liking....
 

adder7712

macrumors 68000
Mar 9, 2009
1,923
1
Canada
Also, if I switch to iOS, I'll miss the ability to manually manage my music, sideload apps and the ability to receive and send whatever file through Bluetooth.

Suffice to say, I'm quite intertwined within the Google ecosystem.
 

KentuckyHouse

macrumors 68030
Jan 29, 2010
2,723
998
Lexington, KY.
Maybe there are some people out there who like the current size. Also they have sold a shed load of iPhones in the past year, which could indicate that those consumers are perfectly happy with the current screen size.

This is one side of the argument against increasing the screen size beyond the current 4". I get it, too. But I don't really buy that people pick the iPhone over larger Android phones because they like the 4" (or even 3.5") screen.

IMO, they pick the iPhone because that's what they get...in other words, they don't have a choice for a larger screened iPhone. They like the iOS ecosystem and the way the iPhone works.

What I think would be very interesting is if Apple broke their mold and brought out a 4.7"-5" iPhone and sold it along side the 4" iPhone 5. Heck, give it the same specs top to bottom as the iPhone 5. Then you'd have a true test of whether people really prefer the smaller screen size. I may be wrong, but I believe if they did that, you'd see the bigger screened iPhone outsell the smaller one 2, 3, 4 to 1 (maybe even more than that).

I just don't think screen size is a reason people STAY with the iPhone...it's more of a reason why people LEAVE. I know we have some vocal members here that griped and screamed when they went to the 4" screen...they said 3.5" was perfect. But how many of them now use the 4" iPhone 5 and don't complain a bit? I'd be willing to bet the number is high.
 

sectime

macrumors 6502a
Jul 29, 2007
530
0
^^^^^^^^^^
What he said.......throw in a notification light, widgets and 4.5 to 5 inch screen. Also Apple needs to have more frequent hardware updates. Maybe go to a 6 month release cycle. SD Card.....the ability to block callers and texters. The general ability to customize my phone to my liking....

Ironic you list a SD card as a IOS negative when Android is moving away from them.
 

Tikatika

macrumors 6502a
Mar 12, 2012
712
797
Northern California
I'm not sure that they would be arrogant to keep it the current size. Maybe there are some people out there who like the current size. Also they have sold a shed load of iPhones in the past year, which could indicate that those consumers are perfectly happy with the current screen size.

Which is exactly why I said give people a choice :). Have a great day!
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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19,077
US
Ironic you list a SD card as a IOS negative when Android is moving away from them.
Says you........The HTC One and Moto X and..........ok so two flagship phones. So how many Android phones have a SD card? Yeah............thought so. So how many IOS devices have a SD card?
 

Savor

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Jun 18, 2010
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I remember when Steve Jobs said iPhone was 5 years ahead. That was 2007. Now Apple has been playing catchup ever since last year. Jelly Bean was one of the greatest things to ever happen to Android.

Seems like Android grew up and offered you more. What was once iOS' stuttering cousin went from ugly duckling to a beautiful swan. The one to marry since it offered beyond more than "looks." It simply aged better. Google didnt stop. They kept improving Android. Apple got lazy and while iOS might be pretty, but it offers less depth. It didnt get smarter fast enough. Seems iOS really is catered like a mobile OS for dummies and people who want to play games and happen to be STUCK in Apple lion's den. I've heard all the complaints abt Android and all the reasons why folks switch back to iOS. Lag, ecosystem, just works, polish, better apps, better design, etc. Yet the outcry is starting to become less and less now with Android in 2013 compared to 2010-2011.

I'm looking at my MIUI icon pack and I feel the icons I chose look much nicer than iOS' current default icons or the hideous ones found on iOS7. Looks cleaner. I can make the font smaller and change the names of each app. Hide what I dont usually use. Even Google Play's App Backup and Restore, ES File Explorer, or TouchPal Contacts are far more useful than anything I got from Apple's App Store since 2008.

Apple's mantra of simplicity became stupid and lacking...
 

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
5,972
4,472
Some great points being made in this thread. Forgot about the inability to block numbers, change your icons, etc. Changing your icons is a really nice feature.

With respect to screen size, I don't think anyone is saying that Apple should ditch the 4" screen entirely. It just makes total sense to include a 4.7"-5" model in conjunction with the 4" model. I think this is what Apple will do in 2014. It's just a shame that we have to wait until then. The larger iPhone should have come last fall and not in 2014.
 

rillrill

macrumors 6502a
Jul 27, 2011
843
654
New York
for me it was a crescendo of frustration.

1. ios became beyond complicated with icloud.
2. maps
3. google's free services (at the time) weren't available
3. customization
4. notifications
5. one screen size
6. just plain boredom

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i also didn't mind steve jobs' dicktatude, but not cook and crew's pompousness.
 
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