iPod What is the exact definition of "Piracy"? :)

[HBOC]

i rip my cds onto my MBP. I am not distributing them. I definatelyWILL NOT pay to get albums i have already (and paid $15-$30 each, and i have 400+ cds) from itunes or the like. That is like paying twice for an album, to have one physical and one digital copy.

Even blu-ray movies come with digital copies now, one to play in a player, and one to upload to the computer. would that be piracy, i think nay.

 

[TangoCharlie]

Parrot?

Piracy is a war-like act committed by a non-state actor, especially robbery or criminal violence committed at sea, on a river, or sometimes on shore. (From wikipedia)
Everything you are describing falls under the umbrella of copyright infringement.

You forgot to mention the parrot, a hook for a hand and a wooden leg!

 

[Airforcekid]

I think ripping a CD from the library is legal as long as you only use the tracks for personal use. It's like using the photocopier at the library.

Ripping a DVD violates the DMCA, since you have to decrypt the DVD to do it.

true and there's no way to get caught doing it just take a look at limewire that's out of control not to mention torrents!

 

[Airforcekid]

Does anyone know whether it is legal to watch movies on websites like youku.com and the like? I was told by a friend that it is not.

It would be like a friend inviting you over to watch a pirated movie you know it is and if there caught your friend goes to jail and you saw a free movie so for you it's legal to share or download no!

 

[CoolKat]

I am a little confused about what piracy is. If I were to check cd's and/or dvd's from the library and sync them to my iPod, would that be considered piracy/copyright infringement? I am on the side that it isn't, since the license agreement in iTunes says that you can put the music on up to 5 computers etc. A friend of mine though, says that it is piracy, and I could get in trouble for ripping cd's and dvd's.

Does anyone know what is piracy and what isn't?

Does it really matter? Afterall if you paid for the music and you in good faith now own it, then you should be able to do whatever the hell you want with it. That means if I pay for a song, I can put on a DVD, CD, USB, Zune, iPod, or whatever computer I want because I own it. This idea that you pay to have a "license" to listen to it is baloney.

If you buy a car, house, or anything else you own it and can do whatever you want with it. It is ridiculous all the DRM they put on forces you to buy and use certain products exclusively. This is apple's biggest fault.

So if you tried in the spirit of fairness to pay for it and "they" in turn try to contain you in a box then I say to hell with their DRM restrictions. Do what you want with it.

 

[old-wiz]

.....This is apple's biggest fault. ....

This is not Apple's choice - it's what the record/movie labels demand. The labels want you to buy the DVD, then buy another version for your iPod Touch, which is of course stupid.

 

[CoolKat]

This is not Apple's choice - it's what the record/movie labels demand. The labels want you to buy the DVD, then buy another version for your iPod Touch, which is of course stupid.

Indeed? It is Apple's choice to follow it strictly and create devices that help further DRM. How come other portable media players are not as restrictive as the ipod? If others can do it so can Apple.

 

[ZMacintosh]

It seems a very abstract yet straight forward thing.
As long as youre not making any money off of your rips its fine?
as long as your distributing them in anyway for profit or not..its fine.

I guess its similar to your OSX license...you get a copy of OSX wether Retail or OEM with your machine....it licensed for a single user/use/computer...you can back it up, clone it, copy it, etc but as long as your not using it to install on othe rmachines or distribute it or copy it onto other systems your fine.

thats just i guess my compare and contrasting opinion. a bit different for software vs cds

I believe though that the regulations regarding it are a bit shortsighted...and there is a vast improvement to be made within the realms of the "music industry"
The RIAA is a joke...the record business barely exists ...they basically lost out when itunes/napster came along and innovated some great technology ( i never used napster..but itunes definitely set a standard)

A lot of people still buy albums...and alot of people listen to radio and alot torrent music...I personally favor buying albums and ripping them to good quality on machine and thats it..i hate most torrent sites as they have junk quality and there is no regulations as far as quality goes.

There could be a good jump in for the RIAA/Recording industry and others to advertise on there, and get payperclicks and payper downloads without a user having to hand over a single penny..but most would if they could get their content cheap and easy...its a mess but im sure someone with a bright idea will come up with something that everyone can enjoy.

What people do behind closed doors is difficult to enforce--just look at how ineffective sodomy laws in some states are of course some consider that a different kind of "Piracy" LOL t

lol what an interesting comparison...but(t) yes piracy is sadistic i suppose

 

[old-wiz]

Indeed? It is Apple's choice to follow it strictly and create devices that help further DRM. How come other portable media players are not as restrictive as the ipod? If others can do it so can Apple.

The other portable media players don't have to deal with the iTunes store (read music labels) restrictions. Apple wanted to sell music and make money and the labels demanded the DRM. It's very simple. While you can now buy DRM free, Apple needed to do what the labels wanted in order to get going.