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genexx

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Surprised you are doing well with this one. I got 2008 13inch and its slow as molasses compared to modern devices. Was very speed in its day. Of course I do not have SSD in that and SSD improves speed much more than upgrading CPU or RAM.
With the SSD and 8GB of Ram i was able to use it as a DJ Device until 2019.
SSD makes a huge diff. and i had also the USB3 Express/34 Card.

Was not my Daily Driver of course ;-)
 

Dr. McKay

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The oldest Apple devices I bought and still have today are my iPod 5th gen, 30Gb, and my iPhone 4S. Bought my first Mac in 1999, and lots of Apple stuff since but sold most of it to make room for new things ;)
Oldest Mac I still have is a 2015 15 inch Macbook Pro...
 

VirtuallyInsane

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iPod 3rd Gen that I got a while back. Stuck a new battery in it and got about 6 hours out of it, and it wasn't fully charged. Not amazing or anything, but it still works fine but is a bit scratched.
 

MacBH928

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The oldest Apple devices I bought and still have today are my iPod 5th gen, 30Gb, and my iPhone 4S. Bought my first Mac in 1999, and lots of Apple stuff since but sold most of it to make room for new things ;)
Oldest Mac I still have is a 2015 15 inch Macbook Pro...

My current mac is a 13inch 2015 MBP...I still consider it new and very modern🥲 (bougt late 2016)
 
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selamet

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I am using last gen ipod shuffle since 2013.
I retired my first gen iphone SE, after buying 13 mini about 3 months ago. It was still working fine, except 16gb storage bottle neck.
 

Dr. McKay

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I just learned I can't upgrade to Ventura... I am shocked.
I feel my MBP 2015 is absolutely modern. Like if I bought this today I would be happy with its functionality.
I know, I'm sure a 2015 MB Pro with 16Gb of RAM is fast enough to run Ventura. Still, I'm keeping mine because I still need it to run 32-bit software so I installed Mojave on it...
 
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MajorFubar

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Purchased-new 2010 Mac Mini with 8GB RAM, updated a few years ago to SSD, running High Sierra. Still used as a perfectly-acceptable media server.
 

MajorFubar

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I just learned I can't upgrade to Ventura... I am shocked.
I feel my MBP 2015 is absolutely modern. Like if I bought this today I would be happy with its functionality.
For content consumption and most other basic tasks like word processing and social-media interaction, the only reason any Mac made within the last ten years is 'obsolete' is because obsolescence has been forced on it by Apple. It's certainly not because of hardware limitations, for most people's uses. So you are not at all fundamentally 'weird' for feeling that your 7 y/o MBP is still very useable. Because, it is. The only people who would disagree strongly are Apple, because they have a vested interest in making you buy new gear. That's mostly the only way they can make money, because their OS updates are free.

EDIT: But let's not forget how environmentally friendly they are as a company, even though they force obsolescence onto non-upgradable hardware which should still be very usable.
 
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MacBH928

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For content consumption and most other basic tasks like word processing and social-media interaction, the only reason any Mac made within the last ten years is 'obsolete' is because obsolescence has been forced on it by Apple. It's certainly not because of hardware limitations, for most people's uses. So you are not at all fundamentally 'weird' for feeling that your 7 y/o MBP is still very useable. Because, it is. The only people who would disagree strongly are Apple, because they have a vested interest in making you buy new gear. That's mostly the only way they can make money, because their OS updates are free.

EDIT: But let's not forget how environmentally friendly they are as a company, even though they force obsolescence onto non-upgradable hardware which should still be very usable.

I think it might have to do with the transition to ARM chips and they no longer want to maintain an OS for x86 chips. It would be faboulus for them if every x86 user buys a new ARM one. Either way, the upgrade pattern seems just the same even if if there was no ARM transition.

Yeah, no way Apple is going to be any where in the educational market (which was huge for them) as they deprecate hardware on purpose this fast. Its closer to status symbol now.

I guess I can always install Windows 11 on it or some Linux variant.
 

ndouglas

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Not going to set any records here, but, 2016 ipod nano still works great and is super handy due to size, and 2013 macbook pro, still works OK. Also 2008 macbook, but it’s definitely slow. Apple TV 1st gen, still works well also, not sure the year for that.
 

bradl

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If we’re counting modern gear, my iPhone 3G is still running strong on a jailbroken iOS 3.1.3, while my 4S is going on 9.3.6.

But my oldest Apple gear still running would be my Apple IIe, running both Apple DOS 3.1.1 and ProDOS 7. Next year will be 40 years.

BL.
 

cosmogfd

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iBook G3 from 2001 (white one not clamshell), I use it to sync my iPod because it has Firewire and while the iPod can also sync over USB, USB 1.0 is slowwww

On an actual day to day basis I still use an Apple Cinema HD Display from 2005 and until very recently I was still using the first gen chunky Apple Wireless Keyboard, but I couldn't re-pair after wiping my MacBook Pro because of a bug in the pairing process in newer versions of macOS so had to get something newer (went for a Logitech MX Keys Mini for Mac)
 

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Bought a Mac Pro 1,1 in 2006, used it daily until 2020 when I finally replaced it with a s/h MacMini because it no longer worked with stuff like cameras, and none of the softwares could be updated. So around 14 years. It had new optical drives, HDDs got swapped for larger ones as they became available, graphics card had to be changed when the original went kaput, but largely in 'original' condition. Oh and I added more RAM. Because, more RAM. I paid probably around £3000 over it's lifespan, which I think is pretty good value really. It now sadly languishes in its original box in the basement, awaiting a new loving owner. If I can find one.

I also have my first ever Mac, a G3 iMac Summer 2000 DV+ edition in Indigo Blue. I haven't used that in well over a decade though, so not sure it'll even turn on now. Can't bring myself to get rid of it, even though it takes up a lot of space.
 

MacBH928

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My Old Apple Watch Series 3, Been using this since its launch in September 2017!

how is the battery?

If we’re counting modern gear, my iPhone 3G is still running strong on a jailbroken iOS 3.1.3, while my 4S is going on 9.3.6.

But my oldest Apple gear still running would be my Apple IIe, running both Apple DOS 3.1.1 and ProDOS 7. Next year will be 40 years.

BL.

What do you use iPhone 3G for? I imagine its as slow as molasses . I find it funny how these devices are snappy when new and then they become crippled. To be honest though, my macs kept working just as fast when new except that they are slow in comparison to what is new. MBP 2015 is still pretty snappy on macos 12.

iBook G3 from 2001 (white one not clamshell), I use it to sync my iPod because it has Firewire and while the iPod can also sync over USB, USB 1.0 is slowwww

On an actual day to day basis I still use an Apple Cinema HD Display from 2005 and until very recently I was still using the first gen chunky Apple Wireless Keyboard, but I couldn't re-pair after wiping my MacBook Pro because of a bug in the pairing process in newer versions of macOS so had to get something newer (went for a Logitech MX Keys Mini for Mac)

nice choice with the keyboard

Bought a Mac Pro 1,1 in 2006, used it daily until 2020 when I finally replaced it with a s/h MacMini because it no longer worked with stuff like cameras, and none of the softwares could be updated. So around 14 years. It had new optical drives, HDDs got swapped for larger ones as they became available, graphics card had to be changed when the original went kaput, but largely in 'original' condition. Oh and I added more RAM. Because, more RAM. I paid probably around £3000 over it's lifespan, which I think is pretty good value really. It now sadly languishes in its original box in the basement, awaiting a new loving owner. If I can find one.

I also have my first ever Mac, a G3 iMac Summer 2000 DV+ edition in Indigo Blue. I haven't used that in well over a decade though, so not sure it'll even turn on now. Can't bring myself to get rid of it, even though it takes up a lot of space.

I always wanted one of those original iMac models never got one 😪

Boy , did you get your money's worth off that Mac Pro. How did it hold until its end of days? Did you find it fast enough to be functional? Which was the last MacOS version it could run? Could it browse the web?
 
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Boidem

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I always wanted one of those original iMac models never got one 😪
Tbh I didn't actually want one when they first came out. I, like many others I suspect, felt it was an 'amateur' computer, as the AIO design meant no 'upgrading' etc. A lunchtime visit to the new PC World shop next to where I was working at the time, and their resident Mac person had me change my mind. For a 'beginner' it was the perfect first computer. Probably one of the best purchases I've ever made. It's still a big ungainly thing that takes up too much space though.
Boy , did you get your money's worth off that Mac Pro. How did it hold until its end of days? Did you find it fast enough to be functional? Which was the last MacOS version it could run? Could it browse the web?
Yes I feel it gave a good return in terms of value. It was plenty fast enough for my needs, it just got to the point where I was stuck on OS X 10.7.5, and less and less stuff was working with it. Noisy, used far too much power, got hot. But still chugged along daily, doing its thing. Plenty of processing power, 32GB RAM was way more than I actually needed (it originally came with 512Mb!), but it was the graphics which ultimately led to its retirement. Increasing amounts of web and other content wouldn't work, and although I had standalone Adobe apps, I couldn't use my new Nikon ML cam as it needed newer softwares which I couldn't use cos the OS was way too old.

A very well made, high quality and high spec (for its time) machine. 14 years of daily use. Show me any PC that has ever lasted that long without serious intervention and replacement of mechanical parts. No, you cannot.

I'm hoping that someone who wants to use it for say audio production or other non graphic intensive tasks, will take it and give it more love.
 

MacBH928

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Tbh I didn't actually want one when they first came out. I, like many others I suspect, felt it was an 'amateur' computer, as the AIO design meant no 'upgrading' etc. A lunchtime visit to the new PC World shop next to where I was working at the time, and their resident Mac person had me change my mind. For a 'beginner' it was the perfect first computer. Probably one of the best purchases I've ever made. It's still a big ungainly thing that takes up too much space though.

Indeed it was not upgradable, and I can't recall the system requirements at the time but as Steve Jobs says, The back of this thing looks better than the front of the other . You say its huge, but for its time it was pretty compact. Compared to the PC, it was just the size of the monitor let alone the tower.

Yes I feel it gave a good return in terms of value. It was plenty fast enough for my needs, it just got to the point where I was stuck on OS X 10.7.5, and less and less stuff was working with it. Noisy, used far too much power, got hot. But still chugged along daily, doing its thing. Plenty of processing power, 32GB RAM was way more than I actually needed (it originally came with 512Mb!), but it was the graphics which ultimately led to its retirement. Increasing amounts of web and other content wouldn't work, and although I had standalone Adobe apps, I couldn't use my new Nikon ML cam as it needed newer softwares which I couldn't use cos the OS was way too old.

A very well made, high quality and high spec (for its time) machine. 14 years of daily use. Show me any PC that has ever lasted that long without serious intervention and replacement of mechanical parts. No, you cannot.

I'm hoping that someone who wants to use it for say audio production or other non graphic intensive tasks, will take it and give it more love.

9 years MacOS lion lasted you, thats pretty outdated. Macs gain higher prices because they last longer (and part of the reason of this thread) . Why would you say its good for audio production given that audio is pretty heavy use case. I mean when Apple introduced the cheese grater new Mac Pro they demonstrated it capability with Audio layers which for the life of me can not find the video of it online.
 

bradl

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how is the battery?



What do you use iPhone 3G for? I imagine its as slow as molasses . I find it funny how these devices are snappy when new and then they become crippled. To be honest though, my macs kept working just as fast when new except that they are slow in comparison to what is new. MBP 2015 is still pretty snappy on macos 12.

Missed this! I don't use it for anything now. I used to use it as an alarm clock or to tether if I needed to in a pinch (which is why it was jailbroken). Now it isn't really needed for anything except to show everyone how it looked when the iPhone was relatively new. It really can't be used for anything network-wise now that telcos have turned off 3G, let alone GPRS.

BL.
 
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Indeed it was not upgradable, and I can't recall the system requirements at the time but as Steve Jobs says, The back of this thing looks better than the front of the other . You say its huge, but for its time it was pretty compact. Compared to the PC, it was just the size of the monitor let alone the tower.
I did 'upgrade' it with more RAM and a much larger HDD (80Gb for the original 20Gb). Compared to modern flat screen AIOs, it's huuuuge! Loved it though. Iconic.

9 years MacOS lion lasted you, thats pretty outdated. Macs gain higher prices because they last longer (and part of the reason of this thread) . Why would you say its good for audio production given that audio is pretty heavy use case. I mean when Apple introduced the cheese grater new Mac Pro they demonstrated it capability with Audio layers which for the life of me can not find the video of it online.
If you use it with older audio production software, it'll work fine, as it doesn't need the graphics processing power. You can still run multiple displays off it, you just don't get super high resolution. It has more than ample power for audio stuff. It's still a viable computer, I just don't have need for it any longer.
 
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