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accrane

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Jul 6, 2008
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I think some people missed the 'reasonable' part of the title.

Apple will not be making the screen smaller. They decided on 13.3" to keep it usable for the majority of buyers.

Apple will not be adding esata, firewire (a dead standard unfortunately), ethernet or anything like that. The design concept behind the MBA is 'wireless'. Note the 'Air' in the name.

Apple will not be making the battery removable. Get over it.

Apple will not be changing the tapered design of the MBA's case. It is an intentional way of making the MBA look even more thin then it is.

We might see an additional USB port as a nod to those users who really need it, but I doubt it. As Intel finalizes the wireless USB standard I think that will be the way the MBA heads.

We may see an option for a larger amount of preinstalled RAM. I think it is an even money bet that they will keep it at 2gb though. 2gb is more then enough for most consumers.

We may see an integrated HSPA modem and SIM card slot. I think that the lack of a WWAN option was a glaring fault in the original MBA. Now that Apple has partnerships with carriers in over 70 countries for the launch of the 3g iPhone I think it is a perfect time for Apple's ultraportable to get some 3g love.

Apple will definitely be using Intel's newer 45nm processors. They will be cooler and faster then the current ones while using less power and allowing a longer battery life. They will definitely move to a SATA HDD and SSD due to the simple fact that there arnt many new PATA drives being made. This will allow larger and faster drive options.

My personal belief is that we will see the newer 45nm Intel processors, larger faster drive options and integrated HSPA. That is it. Anything else is wishful thinking.

If your needs include a plethora of ports, lots of speed and storage or removable batteries then you should not be considering the Air. Apple has very clearly segmented their laptop offerings, there is never going to be a Macbook Air Pro.

Excellent post. I completely agree. Apple isnt going to make any significant changes. just like the new iphone 3g, it doesn't have many new changes but still many people will sell their old iphones to buy the new latest and greatest.
 

Wotan31

macrumors 6502
Jun 5, 2008
491
1
Specs are fine, I just want them to increase the price. Maybe something around $4000? With the recent price cut on the SSD model, it's just not exclusive enough any more. :(
 

Sound Evolution

macrumors 6502
Oct 30, 2007
414
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Netherlands
Dear,

I don't get why people throw a whole list of wishes here while there is one thing that really have to get solved first. Get rid of the core shutdown since it is really the most irritating thing I ever experienced!

With kind regards,
Bas
 

Apple Ink

macrumors 68000
Mar 7, 2008
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I really dont think Apple's gonna include anymore ports than it already has!
SJ already made it clear that MBA is a WIRELESS machine.
More ports (especially the fat ones like ethernet and firewire 800) = fatter MBA
Apple once decides its gonna kill something (Floppy, Serial, LPT1, User Non-replaceable batteries, etc.), it makes sure it does even if the whole worlds against it
 

dudup

macrumors regular
May 28, 2008
173
0
Lisbon, Portugal
In my wildest dreams, since I got my MBA:

- A SIM slot for 3G (both data and voice)

- An very small external display (a la MS Sideshow), with touch support, where you could run iPhonesque apps (dial numbers, check sms and email, etc)

- A new standby mode where the small external display, the SIM slot and a bluetooth headset would still operate with the lid closed.

Give me that and I sell my iPhone on the next day! :D
 

ducatidoc

macrumors regular
Apr 20, 2008
136
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very reasonable fixes:

sATA SSD HD at 128 GB

fixed 4 GB option for RAM

resolved issues with core shutdowns

firewire port

MBA dock station as an accessory
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
Giving the Air an ethernet port would defeat the purpose of the 'Air' naming.

The only purpose of the naming is marketing and differentiating from the MB and the MB Pro. There IS no other "purpose" to the name.

In your opinion, a car named Falcon should only have two wheels in order to not defeat the "purpose" of the name, right?
 

dudup

macrumors regular
May 28, 2008
173
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Lisbon, Portugal
The only purpose of the naming is marketing and differentiating from the MB and the MB Pro. There IS no other "purpose" to the name.

Well, since naming is a branding matter, what is your point? That something called "Air" should start to have ports for cables? :confused:
 

Tallest Skil

macrumors P6
Aug 13, 2006
16,044
4
1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
In your opinion, a car named Falcon should only have two wheels in order to not defeat the "purpose" of the name, right?

A car named Falcon should be able to fly and have talons instead of wheels. :p

So a car named Mountaineer should have a full beard and mustache and spikes on the wheel treads. It should also be plaid in the front half and a tasteful complimentary color in the back half.
 

Mactagonist

macrumors 65816
Feb 5, 2008
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NYC - Manhattan
Would giving it a properly working (in comparison to my other Windows subnotebooks) WLAN / BT detract from that too?

Generally when someone dislikes a product, they dont use it. I cant think of a single post you have made that doesnt find some way to mention how superior windows laptops are. So my question to you is, why are you here? If Apple products are so horrible, why do you use them?
 

vendettabass

macrumors 6502a
Jul 8, 2006
895
2
Wellington, New Zealand
Apple will definitely be using Intel's newer 45nm processors. They will be cooler and faster then the current ones while using less power and allowing a longer battery life. They will definitely move to a SATA HDD and SSD due to the simple fact that there arnt many new PATA drives being made. This will allow larger and faster drive options.

All it really needs, 45nm = better cooling
4GB RAM
64GB SSD Stock
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
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Well, since naming is a branding matter, what is your point? That something called "Air" should start to have ports for cables? :confused:

No, I was stating that since the name "Air" is for branding and marketing purposes, one cannot (at least as a valid logical argument) claim that an ethernet port "would defeat the purpose of the 'Air' naming", as the Air is ONLY branding, not a "feature", "description" or anything else. THUS, giving the Air, say, an ethernet port, would NOT in any way "defeat" the branding "purpose" of the MBA.


A car named Falcon should be able to fly and have talons instead of wheels. :p

So a car named Mountaineer should have a full beard and mustache and spikes on the wheel treads. It should also be plaid in the front half and a tasteful complimentary color in the back half.

Haha, true. At least if we were to use the argumentation used by Cloudsurfer.
 

Mactagonist

macrumors 65816
Feb 5, 2008
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No, I was stating that since the name "Air" is for branding and marketing purposes, one cannot (at least as a valid logical argument) claim that an ethernet port "would defeat the purpose of the 'Air' naming", as the Air is ONLY branding, not a "feature", "description" or anything else. THUS, giving the Air, say, an ethernet port, would NOT in any way "defeat" the branding "purpose" of the MBA.


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Air is the name of the product. It also brings to mind the concept behind the product. The concept of the Macbook Air is a minimalist, wireless laptop that is effortless to carry with you while also offering the same level of productivity as a full size machine due to its large keyboard and screen.

How does ethernet or FW or e-sata or whatever port you want added fit that concept? If you need wired ports, buy a macbook or macbook pro. Or if you are Sesshi, buy a windows laptop. The Air will never have more ports then it does now. In fact, if they could have gotten away with it I am sure Apple would have liked to make a Macbook Air with no ports. Once wireless USB is established I am sure they will.
 

Sesshi

macrumors G3
Jun 3, 2006
8,113
1
One Nation Under Gordon
Generally when someone dislikes a product, they dont use it. I cant think of a single post you have made that doesnt find some way to mention how superior windows laptops are. So my question to you is, why are you here? If Apple products are so horrible, why do you use them?

I've explained this in so many posts that I'm beginning to hope whichever Apple-addled party taking umbrage at one of my posts would stumble on those as well.

There's this thing called OSX. I own software which runs on this thing called OSX. And unlike most consumers who don't believe in paying for software, I actually pay for stuff and have bespoke development projects in place, which means that my investment in software rivals/exceeds investment in hardware.

And there's this range of very pretty yet badly engineered and defect-laden machines (especially those bearing the laughable 'Pro' moniker) manufactured by the same company which OSX exclusively runs on.

Well - that's not entirely true as you and I know. It runs on other machines but it becomes a toss-up between somewhat unreliable and considerably hassle-laden software operation on a reliable hardware platform, or somewhat less unreliable, no-hassle software operation on an unreliable hardware platform. In the light of this situation, I find myself choosing hardware which is supported under OSX - the lesser of two evils if you will.
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
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Air is the name of the product. It also brings to mind the concept behind the product. The concept of the Macbook Air is a minimalist, wireless laptop that is effortless to carry with you while also offering the same level of productivity as a full size machine due to its large keyboard and screen.
Yes, but that does in no way mean that adding an ethernet port would "defeat the purpose" of the name. It's pure bollocks.

If you don't like my other examples, let's simply take your argument the other way, and there would be no use for USB, headphone jack, nor a power plug.



How does ethernet or FW or e-sata or whatever port you want added fit that concept?
Get with the programme. I was talking about adding an ethernet port didn't mean that the whole "purpose of the name was "defeated"". You see, it's a question of using valid arguments.

If you need wired ports, buy a macbook or macbook pro.
See above. By using that argument, the MBA shouldn't have any ports at all.

Or if you are Sesshi, buy a windows laptop.
Ah, you see, I already have my heart set on a thinkpad. But that has mostly to do with what crap Apple hardware has become.

The Air will never have more ports then it does now.
Says who? You? And you want people to take your word for it? Please, don't make me laugh…

In fact, if they could have gotten away with it I am sure Apple would have liked to make a Macbook Air with no ports. Once wireless USB is established I am sure they will.
Ah, yes, if enough people buy blindly, I'm sure they will. However, we're talking MBA 2 here, and when (if?) that comes, WUSB won't be ready for prime time.
Besides, even as much as I like WUSB, you have a problem the moment you need to charge. The thing is, as great as WUSB is for transfers (I'd like W-FW), it kind of sucks when you need to charge something. So how do you figure the iPhone-cum-MBA buyers will do that? Bring a charger for each device, because Apple in their infinite wisdom thought it wiser to bring a charger for each device, all in an effort to save 6 grams on the plug, 17 grams on the cable? Yes, that sure sounds like a good idea
Further, how do you figure you'll be transferring those photos you just took? By buying a third party WUSB adaptor, or only going with cameras that have WUSB inbuilt?

:rolleyes:
 

Mactagonist

macrumors 65816
Feb 5, 2008
1,108
198
NYC - Manhattan
I can understand the dilemma you face having invested in software for your Macs. That is unfortunate. But, at the end of the day perhaps you could consider the extra cost you faced in migrating to windows after selling your Apple hardware and software to be a necessary investment in your own day to day happiness.

I've explained this in so many posts that I'm beginning to hope whichever Apple-addled party taking umbrage at one of my posts would stumble on those as well.

There's this thing called OSX. I own software which runs on this thing called OSX. And unlike most consumers who don't believe in paying for software, I actually pay for stuff and have bespoke development projects in place, which means that my investment in software rivals/exceeds investment in hardware.

And there's this range of very pretty yet badly engineered and defect-laden machines (especially those bearing the laughable 'Pro' moniker) manufactured by the same company which OSX exclusively runs on.

Well - that's not entirely true as you and I know. It runs on other machines but it becomes a toss-up between somewhat unreliable and considerably hassle-laden software operation on a reliable hardware platform, or somewhat less unreliable, no-hassle software operation on an unreliable hardware platform. In the light of this situation, I find myself choosing hardware which is supported under OSX - the lesser of two evils if you will.
 

Mactagonist

macrumors 65816
Feb 5, 2008
1,108
198
NYC - Manhattan
Yes, but that does in no way mean that adding an ethernet port would "defeat the purpose" of the name. It's pure bollocks.

If you don't like my other examples, let's simply take your argument the other way, and there would be no use for USB, headphone jack, nor a power plug.

...

:rolleyes:

I really cant explain it to you any more simply. If you choose to attack me and what I said instead of simply accepting that ethernet is not coming to the Macbook Air I suppose that is your choice.
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
I really cant explain it to you any more simply. If you choose to attack me and what I said instead of simply accepting that ethernet is not coming to the Macbook Air I suppose that is your choice.

You might think you "explained" something, but in reality you didn't. You made some claims based on faulty logic, and used conjecture for the rest. But whatever floats your boat :rolleyes:
Edit: I don't get why you choose to construe my comment as "an attack". Seriously.
 

dannn

macrumors regular
Feb 3, 2008
107
0
standard ssd @ the same price points (64 and 128 gb)

and better battery life
 

sir42

macrumors 6502
Sep 16, 2003
446
20
NY, NY
I'm 90% convinced that the Air will be next mac purchase in a year or two. A couple of new things would make it a no-brainer purchase for me:

1. integrated 3G data chip
2. better security - if I'm going to be carrying it around with more more than my MBP, I'd like to have a little more piece of mind that my data will be protected should the Air be stolen. To that end, I'd love to see fingerprint recognition to unlock the computer and GPS to track it down should it be stolen.

If all of my data is going to be in the cloud in a few years, hard drive size isn't a big issue for me, but I would love to see instant on.
 

Grizzly Adams

macrumors member
May 20, 2008
59
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realistically I couldn't ask for much more. The only things that I would want are:

Faster processor
Larger HD
Some sort of security features
 
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