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What the hell were Apple thinking when they were redesigning the Weather app??? Who even does that??? RID-DICULOUS!!!

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Every freakin weather forecast (since the dawn of time) always shows daytime temperature followed by same-day nighttime temperature (aka evening, late evening, late late evening, late late late evening), or highest temperature followed by lowest temperature. Why the hell did Apple decide to show them backwards in iOS 15??

For fourteen freakin iOS versions, it was always normal, like it should be. But for iOS 15, they decided to be stupid.

Even Apple's Weather app on Apple Watch is like "huh?"

FFS, change it back!! Don't make us wait until iOS 20 to reveal a revolutionary new Weather app that shows it right.
 
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sniffies said:
Every freakin weather forecast (since the dawn of time) always shows daytime temperature followed by nighttime temperature. Why the hell did Apple decide to show them backwards in iOS 15??

For fourteen freakin iOS versions, it was always normal, like it should be. But for iOS 15, they decided to be stupid.

Even Apple's Weather app on Apple Watch is like "huh?"

FFS, change it back!! Don't make us wait until iOS 20 to reveal a revolutionary new Weather app that shows it right.
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I’m kinda with you on this. It’s not the end of the world to me but I definitely notice it. Just my opinion, but I feel like at a glance my attention goes to the area in the red box in the screen shot below. Typically you’d be used to seeing the daily high temp but it’s actually the low. Takes a little getting used to I guess.
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At least for me, this is just reflecting the number line and the general standard of reading right to left, meaning higher numbers go on the right. It wouldn’t make much sense to me to have a line showing the range of two numbers while having the larger number on the left. Like others have said, I honestly didn’t notice at all since the new layout seems intuitive to me
 
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sniffies said:
Every freakin weather forecast (since the dawn of time) always shows daytime temperature followed by nighttime temperature. Why the hell did Apple decide to show them backwards in iOS 15??

For fourteen freakin iOS versions, it was always normal, like it should be. But for iOS 15, they decided to be stupid.

Even Apple's Weather app on Apple Watch is like "huh?"

FFS, change it back!! Don't make us wait until iOS 20 to reveal a revolutionary new Weather app that shows it right.
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i agree and you have to question why they make some of these decisions. Another case in point is moving the entry field for Safari from the top of the screen to the bottom. What exactly was the point of this.
 
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I prefer the new layout. I never used the old version of the weather app because there are so many other weather apps that were better. Now I find myself looking at it daily because of the overall design, and I particularly like the temperature bars showing the range for the day (from low to high, which makes sense to me). They did a good job with it in my opinion.
 
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840quadra said:
It matches what Darksky does (an app they purchased) and shows a bar that gives a visual representative of the temperature difference forecasted for any given day. I prefer it to the old way, but just my opinion.
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Ahh, that explains a lot. I never used the old iOS weather app because I like Dark Sky so much better.
 
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I’m not sure I follow, usually, don’t they give you the high and the low for the day? Not day and night temp. Although I guess one could assume the higher temp would be for day.
 
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Took me a second to understand the complaint but now that I get it, I disagree. I think the scale model they've adopted makes perfect sense and I really enjoy not having to have a third party weather app anymore. I'm watching the flurries on it right now and it's adding a little cheer to my office.
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I just wish I had it on the iPad. :confused:
 
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sniffies said:
Every freakin weather forecast (since the dawn of time) always shows daytime temperature followed by nighttime temperature, highest temperature followed by lowest temperature. Why the hell did Apple decide to show them backwards in iOS 15??

For fourteen freakin iOS versions, it was always normal, like it should be. But for iOS 15, they decided to be stupid.

Even Apple's Weather app on Apple Watch is like "huh?"

FFS, change it back!! Don't make us wait until iOS 20 to reveal a revolutionary new Weather app that shows it right.
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Wow…rather extreme reaction.

You may not like it, but it does represent how temps progress on most days…coolest just before dawn and highest later in the day.

Suggest maybe dialing back the outrage over a fairly innocuous design decision. Your blood pressure will thank you.
 
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I personally think this is a much more understandable representation than the traditional "high/low" format that creates exactly the kind of confusion about the timing of the temperatures that the OP is exhibiting.

Simple facts: The day typically starts out at the low, and proceeds chronologically towards the high. The "low" for any given day is usually just before dawn. The "high" is typically around mid to late afternoon or early evening.

Frankly, I find it strange that we haven't looked at it this way as standard before now.
 
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Wow…rather extreme reaction.

You may not like it, but it does represent how temps progress on most days…coolest just before dawn and highest later in the day.

Suggest maybe dialing back the outrage over a fairly innocuous design decision. Your blood pressure will thank you.
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What th are you talking about?!

Highest temp is always for daytime, and lowest temp is always for same-day nighttime (aka evening, late evening, late late evening, late late late evening). In a 24-hour day, daytime precedes evening time, therefore highest temp always precedes lowest.

Are you telling me, it makes more sense to show evening temp before daytime temp?? Yeah, sssssure 😂🙄

Let me reiterate for people like you: daytime always comes before evening/night.

Jesus! 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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What th are you talking about?!

Highest temp always represents temp around noon, and lowest temp always represents temp around evening. In a 24-hour day, noon precedes evening, therefore highest temp always precedes lowest.

In other words, highest temp is around 9 - 11:59am and lowest temp is around 9 - 11:59pm.

Are you telling me, it makes more sense to show 11:59pm temp before 11:59am temp?? Yeah, sssssure ??

Let me reiterate for people like you: 11:59am always comes before 11:59pm

Jesus! ??‍♂️
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The high temperature in a weather forecast is the highest temperature expected during the day, which is often not at noon but rather mid to late afternoon (depending on location and season) after the sun has been heating the air and surface all day. The low temperature is the lowest temperature expected during the night/early morning, which as explained above is typically just before dawn as the air and surface have been cooling since the previous sunset.

High/low temperature forecasts are not tied to a specific time, and as far as I know they never have been. Take a look at the hourly temperature forecasts for your area if you'd like a good example of that.
 
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Here, I'll even add a couple of examples myself:


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Note the forecast high of 70º. The temperature at noon is expected to be 65º — but that's not the forecast high. They're not expected to reach 70º until sometime around 3 PM (15:00).

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Same deal for the low temperature — the temp at midnight is expected to be 55º, but the forecast low for Friday morning is 49º — that won't be reached until sometime after 5 AM.
 
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Highest temp always represents temp around noon, and lowest temp always represents temp around evening. In a 24-hour day, noon precedes evening, therefore highest temp always precedes lowest.
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The hourly forecast for New York City tonight is for the high temperature for the day to happen right at midnight, at around 55º. A cold front is moving through the area overnight so the low for the day is forecast to happen at around 8am, at 41º, with the temperature at noon forecast to be about 44º. How does this align with your model of how the temperature should be represented in the app?
 
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I can't believe I have to keep explaining this.

My point still stands: Noon is any time while the sun is up in the sky (think of "light", "birds chirping", "moms strolling with their babies"). Evening is any time while the sun has gone down after being up in the sky (think of "dark", "street lights", "closing store fronts").

High temp is for daytime, low temp is for same-day nighttime (aka evening, late evening, late late evening, late late late evening).

Daytime comes before evening.

Therefore high temp comes before low temp.

Why is this so hard to understand???? 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😩😩😩
 
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Highest temp always represents temp around noon, and lowest temp always represents temp around evening. In a 24-hour day, noon precedes evening
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I guess some of us wake up before noon every day?
 
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