True... noon comes before 11:59pm, but you know what comes before noon? 4am - when most daily lows are set.
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What the hell were Apple thinking when they were redesigning the Weather app??? Who even does that??? RID-DICULOUS!!!
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Maybe you’re just loathe to admit that you’re wrong.
Low temperature comes in the morning, generally right before the dawn. The warmest point in the day — the high temperature — tends to hit between 2 and 4 p.m.
Because that is not how weather forecasts work, and that is never how they've worked. High and low temperature forecasts are exactly that — the highest and lowest temperature expected during the day, not the temperatures at noon and midnight. Because, in the vast majority of cases, the temperature at noon is not the hottest part of the day, and the temperature at midnight is not the coldest part of the night.
Just because you keep insisting that everyone should use the temperature at noon as the high and the temperature at midnight as the low does not mean that weather forecasters worldwide, and the innumerable third-party platforms that use those forecasts, are going to change the way they forecast the weather to suit your ideas of how they should do their jobs. If you want to use a weather app that doesn't accurately report the highest and lowest temperatures in the day and instead just uses whatever you expect to see at noon and midnight, you're free to do that, but I would not expect Apple to revert a change that is functionally more accurate than a previous design just because you don't like it.
(I would also not recommend planning out your day based on noon and midnight temperatures unless you're prepared for disappointment when it ends up being substantially hotter or colder than you were expecting.)
Maybe you just didn't read what I wrote.
Low temp is for the part of the day when the sun has gone down.
What you've been writing, literally, is that the high and low should be the temperatures at noon and midnight, which is incorrect.
What you probably meant (but have yet to successfully clarify) is that you'd prefer that the low temperature forecast to be for the following morning, not the current morning, and hence why you'd prefer the high to be listed before the low instead of after.
The change Apple made is technically correct if you're using the local calendar day for the low/high temperature range, but what they previously used (and what many other weather apps use) was what I just described — the low counts tomorrow morning as today for forecasting purposes.
Weather app on Apple Watch shows daytime temp followed by same-day nighttime temp (aka evening, late evening, late late evening, late late late evening), aka high and low.
Weather app on iPhone had been showing the right way for at least 14 years.
Weather.gov shows high for daytime and low for sam-day nighttime.
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Read my original post. Whether I said noon or not, that's irrelevant. My point still stands, which is high is for daytime, low is for same-day nighttime (aka evening, late evening, late late evening, late late late evening).
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I didn't pull those out of thin air. Also, kindly lay off on these:
Don't be surprised when you get pushback if you're going to resort to ad hominem when we respond to what you posted and not what you meant.
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The "traditional" system makes it confusing as to whether the low is at the beginning or end of the day. We're all used to it, but there are still times when I look at the low or
Because it is not in any way accurate. Noon (generally) is the time when the sun reaches the highest point in the sky. The heating of the atmosphere lags by several hours typically, so the period of peak temperature is usually well after noon (an hour or 2 during winter or 3-4 hours during summer). Evening is the period from 5 or 6 pm to just after sunset (evening is not a meteorological term). Night is the period when there is no direct or indirect illumination from the sun (other than moonlight). Do not be deliberately obtuse.
You still don't get it. Noon or not is irrelevant. I admit, I used the wrong words.
But I will edit my previous posts to avoid further confusion.
That still doesn't change the fact that high is for daytime and low is for same-day evening/night.
Go on Weather.gov. Their website supports my argument.
Or are you saying Weather.gov has been doing it wrong all these years? Yeah, ssssssure 🙄
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No...it is not. Low temperature is for ... wait for it...when the low temperature occurs. Which, as has been pointed out to you numerous times here, generally (not always, but generally) occurs in the hour or so before the sun rises.
You will find absolutely NOTHING on weather.gov that supports your argument. Nothing.
I don't think it's worth trying to convince anyone at this point — we're wrong, they're right. Let's just smile, nod, ignore, and move on.
I read what you wrote. You’re out of touch with how we’ve been recording and forecasting the weather since they started charting such things. Low temperature forecast is and always has been for the early morning.
I don't know where you live, but here in central USA, when the day starts at 12:01 am, it is dark, night, and the low temp for the day usually comes at about 4-6 am, then it becomes day and the high temp usually comes in the middle of the afternoon, 3-4 pm.
So, low temp >>> high temp seems totally sensible and intuitive.
The weather bars remind me of the infogram on my Apple watch, the little widget in the corner which is also a small bar from the low to the high, with the current temp someplace along that line.
Simply put, you’re wrong& out of touch.
The low temperature in some places can be in the daytime, at 6/7am in some places, which then means your claim on how it works fails.
Using an American based website as backing your point just invalidates it. iPhones are not only sold in the US. Here in the UK, Met Office shows high & low. Not day & night.
You’re really not helping disprove they yank ‘we’re the only place that matters’ stereotype.
The fact that you’re pretty much the only one with your view, massively outnumbered, proves you’re wrong.
It doesn't matter where you or I or anyone else lives.
Weather.gov shows high is for daytime, low is for same-day nighttime. High comes before low. End of story.
Most that would agree with me and weather.gov don't care about commenting here, hence my being "massively outnumbered" 😂
Aaaaand weather.gov is not the only service that thinks the correct way 🙄
I am pretty sure that you are massively outnumbered because you are wrong.
Didn't even notice the change.
Looks logical and makes sense to me, to read minimum to maximum left to right as a RANGE (that's why there's a line between them and a dot showing your current progress on said line for the day).
And normally, the lowest temp is just before dawn. Like... first part of the day?
Looks logical and makes sense to me, to read minimum to maximum left to right as a RANGE (that's why there's a line between them and a dot showing your current progress on said line for the day).
And normally, the lowest temp is just before dawn. Like... first part of the day?
Yea, convenient that?
Most outside the US report report low & high. Not daytime & night time, because see places are colder in the daytime. You just keep ignoring that, since it proves you wrong. You’re embarrassing yourself.
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