kanker said:
You said it hello, HP ! Its the only way to go ! i will only buy HP P/S or copiers! They are really the best with quality and customer service.
I spent a month in Indy, last Feb. working for Eli Lilly!!
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You said it hello, HP ! Its the only way to go ! i will only buy HP P/S or copiers! They are really the best with quality and customer service.
I spent a month in Indy, last Feb. working for Eli Lilly!!
I switched from epson to Canon Printers
I used to always used Epson (Photo) printers and after some problems switched to a Canon Pixma ip5000 and couldn't be happier. There is a thread about it here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=1370092#post1370092
As far as support from Epson I seem to remember reading somewhere that Epson don't provide OS X support for the low end printers as they don't believe Apple users would buy them
I used to always used Epson (Photo) printers and after some problems switched to a Canon Pixma ip5000 and couldn't be happier. There is a thread about it here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=1370092#post1370092
As far as support from Epson I seem to remember reading somewhere that Epson don't provide OS X support for the low end printers as they don't believe Apple users would buy them
Maxiseller said:
How did you get the C66 to work with GIMP. I bought one by mistake and couldn't get the thing to print. Even the GIMP website says they don't support it.
I now have it attached to a PC, your help would be most welcome.
capone2 said:
Yes I agree too! I used to have an Epson printer and it worked well for the first 12 months or so. After that it had a lot of problems, leaving black ink blotches over prints and clogging all the time. No matter how much I realigned the nozzles or cleaned it I was unable to make it work properly. The exact same thing happened to my neighbour who had a more expensive epson, but he had driver trouble too with OSX.
The solution? I have a HP and it is excellent. My neighbour has a swish photo HP printer and it is excellent. HPs seem to have great reliability which is my main requirement! I would buy another HP anyday, they really are very good.
Sounds like the generally opinion is that Epson sucks. However, I can't totally agree. Everyone that I know who uses Epson medium or large format printers is very happy. It seems that Epson put all their love into the 1280, 2200 (and the 2000p - what I use) and went way too cheap on the low end stuff.
So it depends on what you are expecting from your printer. If you are looking for something that will print a full bleed 12 x 18, I wouldn't discount Epson from your selection. And if tabloid is what you want, I don't suspect that Laser is in your budget. Additionally, if print longevity is a big concern, again, I would seriously at an Epson pigment printer (the 2200).
Other wise if you are just looking for a way to product cheap but mediocre images, go for the laser.
So it depends on what you are expecting from your printer. If you are looking for something that will print a full bleed 12 x 18, I wouldn't discount Epson from your selection. And if tabloid is what you want, I don't suspect that Laser is in your budget. Additionally, if print longevity is a big concern, again, I would seriously at an Epson pigment printer (the 2200).
Other wise if you are just looking for a way to product cheap but mediocre images, go for the laser.
I'm currently using a C80, running with Birmy PowerRip Postscript software and the printouts are beautiful. The text is perfect, and the colors true. Epson printers can be finicky, they like to be used regularly. If mine sits for a long period, then I have problems.
When I was searching for a postscript compatible printer, I looked at the HP's, but most were not supported by Birmy. That narrowed my choices considerably. I stuck with Epson because Epson has stuck with the Mac.
When I was searching for a postscript compatible printer, I looked at the HP's, but most were not supported by Birmy. That narrowed my choices considerably. I stuck with Epson because Epson has stuck with the Mac.
bousozoku said:
Just because a driver issue is fixed by a OS update doesn't mean that Apple had made a mistake with its printing infrastructure; those OS updates often contain device-specific modifications made in concert with hardware manufacturers; the Software Update service is just a far better method of distributing their driver update.
Of course it might just be Apple's fault; all I'm saying is that the fact that the fix came from an OS update is not dispositive.
-RS
Ok..
I don't know how many of you do some serious printing, but if you aren't doing serious photography, graphic design, etc, then get something else for a low-end printer. I have had an epson 13x19 1160 since before 2000 and Epson came back just to write drivers for it in 10.2. I have also owned several small printers from epson, and canon, and two HPs. Needless to say the only ones that are either sold or are still around are Epson. the HP's Died, and the Canon started getting ink everywhere. The 1160 is still my primary printer. the newer large format epsons get even better color matching and my 1160 STILL looks better than most photo printers from other brands..
Now, thats said. Epsons are not meant for bulk office printing. the inks do run out faster. they also last MUCH longer on paper. The colorsync is unmatched and the papers are next to none. If you are doing word docs and the occasional photo, buy a small HP or Canon.
Now for large format, HP actually makes some great printers. I would put HP and Epson about neck and neck on this (24in and greater).
I understand your frustrations, i went through them myself. But do some research before you buy. If you have time to get on here and type a complaint, then you have time to find out that most positive reviews that come in for Epson are from people who are doing some exacting and demanding printing on a small scale for fine prints. Otherwise, get a canon or an HP. My mom loves her Canon. It also works great with her digital camera.
Oh and for the record, I spent 90% as much on HP cartidges as i did on Epson, so i see no REAL complaint for that considering the amount of quality and lightfastness you will get from Epson inks. And if you buy generic inks and you printer dies, don't complain, you get what you pay for.
and DON'T buy a laser for photos (if you plan on selling them or putting them in a gallery). period. unless you have 15 grand or more to spend. for graphic design proofs and color emulation, go ahead.
*disclaimer* obviously these are my experience and the experience of the many print and photography professionals i have worked with over the years, i make no claim that everything that works for me or them is perfect for you. we all have different needs and mixed use preferences.
hope this was informative
technocoy
I don't know how many of you do some serious printing, but if you aren't doing serious photography, graphic design, etc, then get something else for a low-end printer. I have had an epson 13x19 1160 since before 2000 and Epson came back just to write drivers for it in 10.2. I have also owned several small printers from epson, and canon, and two HPs. Needless to say the only ones that are either sold or are still around are Epson. the HP's Died, and the Canon started getting ink everywhere. The 1160 is still my primary printer. the newer large format epsons get even better color matching and my 1160 STILL looks better than most photo printers from other brands..
Now, thats said. Epsons are not meant for bulk office printing. the inks do run out faster. they also last MUCH longer on paper. The colorsync is unmatched and the papers are next to none. If you are doing word docs and the occasional photo, buy a small HP or Canon.
Now for large format, HP actually makes some great printers. I would put HP and Epson about neck and neck on this (24in and greater).
I understand your frustrations, i went through them myself. But do some research before you buy. If you have time to get on here and type a complaint, then you have time to find out that most positive reviews that come in for Epson are from people who are doing some exacting and demanding printing on a small scale for fine prints. Otherwise, get a canon or an HP. My mom loves her Canon. It also works great with her digital camera.
Oh and for the record, I spent 90% as much on HP cartidges as i did on Epson, so i see no REAL complaint for that considering the amount of quality and lightfastness you will get from Epson inks. And if you buy generic inks and you printer dies, don't complain, you get what you pay for.
and DON'T buy a laser for photos (if you plan on selling them or putting them in a gallery). period. unless you have 15 grand or more to spend. for graphic design proofs and color emulation, go ahead.
*disclaimer* obviously these are my experience and the experience of the many print and photography professionals i have worked with over the years, i make no claim that everything that works for me or them is perfect for you. we all have different needs and mixed use preferences.
hope this was informative
technocoy
i have just switched to macs and got a c64 epson stylus printer with it. not heavy on printing, just bits and pieces. but i got a copy of panther with my mac and there dont seem to be drivers ANYWHERE......
i downloaded gimprint, and not even this seems to work. it feeds the page through, sounds like its working and then the page comes out nice and blank. and the most worryingf thing is i changed the ink a week ago, nothing has printed, and the ink wells are going down.... where does this mysterious ink go?
if anyone can help with a driver, or give any advice, id be very appreciative.........:
i downloaded gimprint, and not even this seems to work. it feeds the page through, sounds like its working and then the page comes out nice and blank. and the most worryingf thing is i changed the ink a week ago, nothing has printed, and the ink wells are going down.... where does this mysterious ink go?
if anyone can help with a driver, or give any advice, id be very appreciative.........:
