Most hotel rooms still have radios/speakers with the 30 pin adapter.
But I do see your point - With Apple, expect less.
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But I do see your point - With Apple, expect less.
I think the issue here is that Apple is expecting just a bit out of YOU.
You should get a PC and call it a day.
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This is becoming more and more true.. Give it a few years and you will need a dongle for the dongle that connects to a dongle.. This last in line dongle will need an adapter to connect to the MacBook..
Apple cracks me up...
To me this is the solution, migrate any and all future releases over to USB-C to Lightning cables and for the first year (or two) include a USB adaptor for anyone who requires it.
I really can't see why Apple are not keeping their product lines in parallel with one another, a company who were know (and built) on the "it just works" motto have now become "it just works... unless you bought a combination of our new 2016 devices.... then you'll need an adapter/new cable (don't worry we've got your back, we make and sell these too $£€¥), and then it just works...."
I realise it's a minor problem in the bigger picture and it's just a case of buying a different cable/adapter but we've started to see more and more of these little annoyances creeping up on us as of recent, I guess this is the bigger picture for the new Apple... the Tim Cook Apple $£€¥$£€¥
MOST people that own an iPhone don't own a Mac, let alone one of the 2016 models. And the very few (I'm one of them) that do just need to either buy a lightning to USB-C cable or a USB-C to USB-A adapter and use their existing cable. Not such a crazy proposition for someone spending well over $1k for a laptop. Pretty ludicrous to expect EVERYONE that buys the new iPhone (millions) to start looking around for a USB-C charger/cable when they leave their homes without one.
this picture has a lot more context when they internally announced $9.99 for 12 more levels,
They get off to this stuff, nickel and diming.
the guy on the right by body language is saying "Here gimme that"
Most people dont have the flagship laptop. They will probably change to a usb-c charging adapter 1 year after all appe computers gone to usb-c. I the meantime those who het computers now can get a cheap cable for it. Skip 1 or 2 pizzas in a month and you can afford it
Yeah, but the iPhone 7 speakers are good just by themselves. So it's not like you need to blow the roof of your hotel room
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I bought the new MacBook Pro, and its amazing. Its more then I could wish for in any PC. The free software is perfect. And the whole thing looks and feels amazing. The touchbar has sped up my work flow a lot.
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No, I think they will stop (for now) with USB-C, until a way better port comes along. But I think they should have planned the switch better.
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If the iPhone 7 would have been USB-C you actually have more options to charge it. since loads of other phones and products use that too. So you would have been better off.
where is USB C standard? let me rephrase...standard in real world implementation. Besides USB-C adapters that is.
A better caveat would have been to split the 2. Have C devices, have a blast. have older usb A's...have a blast.
Wait a few years, actually see your user base actually have a stronger need in place for C and ween off the legacy.
Coming from photography as an example. When Nikon, Canon, Oly, etc have USB C cables shipping with their gear I'd call this a good move.
When 3rd party UI devices like logitec, razor, etc are shipping wired mice and kb's usb c...good time to maybe pull this trigger.
Now...no. I am all over the place hobby wise. Video, photography, audio interests as an example. XLR I use, I run mini HDMI cables out from DSLR to recorder. Old usb...tons of it. USB-C...not one cable or device in the line up. Point to that being I use a lot of standards...nothing is USB C. Nor will be for quite sometime.
Greater chance of average user plugging in legacy USB really. Vendors still pushing it out too.
Apple is leading the pack here, stroke that apple zealot pride for a second.
Issue: there is no pack to lead here. 3-4 years maybe there may be a pack there. then apple can say told you so. to which most other vendors will go yeah...but we didn't piss off our customers in the process to get here.
If they change the ports next year, it will make the iPhone 8 (and presumably all of the 2017 iPads) incompatible with the millions of third-party products sold from 2012 that let you plug Lightning devices into them.
So basically, you're proposing to screw with the tens of millions of people who own Lighting accessories like the ones below (by suggesting that Apple make the next iPhone with a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port), because it's too much of an inconvenience for you to go out and buy a $20 USB-C to Lightning cable for your MacBook Pro/AirPods?!?
It happened ones before, did you hate it then... Yes. Do you like this port now better because it is nice and small and can fit in both ways?.... Yes! This change to usb needs to happen. There are already loads of phone accessories because android phones have USB-C. The witch is hard but it is needed.
Did I say it was hard? Nope............
My response was in relation to the original post which has all but been forgotten based on the latter responses in this thread..
No, you'd need to carry 1 cable - USB-C to Lightning. (Or, as I prefer to call it now, "Thunderbolt to Lightning.")
Yes, in a perfect world, Apple would get rid of Lightning and use USB-C on *ALL* devices. But moving forward, you need two cables for future devices - USB-C to Lightning, and USB-C to USB-C. That covers everything moving forward.
The nice thing about USB-C is that it is truly future-proof thanks to the Alternate Mode support. Barring a return to 25-pin parallel ports or SCSI ports (or similar massively-parallel cables,) USB-C should be "the last connector" for at least 20 years.
Again.... Point of the original post MISSED! I was not the OP and was responding to his / her thread.. Do I honestly care if I need a dongle? Nope but that's not the point nor the topic of the OP's discussion...
I give up...
Nothing, but it wouldn't be hard for apple to make the charging cable lightning to USB-C.
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Some people just don't get it don't they.
Selective reading and / or reading comprehension... I think sometimes people don't read the whole thread before responding. They read the last post and away they go.. LOL
This made me laugh. No way are lightning cables more durable than the 30pin cable. I've had so many lightning cables fray and break around the lightening head that i now buy 30pin cables and use a 30pin to lightning adapter.
Yeah, but the iPhone 7 speakers are good just by themselves. So it's not like you need to blow the roof of your hotel room
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I bought the new MacBook Pro, and its amazing. Its more then I could wish for in any PC. The free software is perfect. And the whole thing looks and feels amazing. The touchbar has sped up my work flow a lot.
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No, I think they will stop (for now) with USB-C, until a way better port comes along. But I think they should have planned the switch better.
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If the iPhone 7 would have been USB-C you actually have more options to charge it. since loads of other phones and products use that too. So you would have been better off.
WHAT!? Where do you live/work that USB-C is more ubiquitous then USB-A/Lightning. Don't get me wrong, I'm in tech so I'd of preferred USB-C as I want to be future proof and I know USB-C will be everywhere in a year. But 3mo, that'd of scared off A LOT of non-tech customers.
I don't have all usb-c products. But to get there we need to be forced there. But doing that with still having the iPhone lightning... That's not logical.
You were literally the first person in this thread to reply using dongles to make a point.
So unless you missed the OP's point, folks asking for clarification about the point you made aren't missing anything, IMO.
Part of the reason I like coming here is for the comic relief... Thanks!
But for what it's worth, I was not making a point I was responding with humor to the OP point..... Do they still teach reading comprehension in schools? I graduated like 30 years ago so maybe they've stopped?
But for what it's worth, I was not making a point I was responding with humor to the OP point..... Do they still teach reading comprehension in schools? I graduated like 30 years ago so maybe they've stopped?