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The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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It's out on march 14th so what features should it have for you to switch from the iphone?
 

maxosx

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2012
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It's out on march 14th so what features should it have for you to switch from the iphone?

I'm using my iPhone 5 as my secondary smartphone. My primary is my Note II.

I will be buying the Galaxy S4 upon its release. The advantages are too numerous to list. However I'm _not_ switching. I like iOS & Android & plan to continue to use both.

But unless Apple gives us a display around 4.7" to 4.99" on the upcoming model, the iPhone 5 will be the last iPhone I buy.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
I'm using my iPhone 5 as my secondary smartphone. My primary is my Note II.

I will be buying the Galaxy S4 upon its release. The advantages are too numerous to list. However I'm _not_ switching. I like iOS & Android & plan to continue to use both.

But unless Apple gives us a display around 4.7" to 4.99" on the upcoming model, the iPhone 5 will be the last iPhone I buy.

Yeah, i was in a Apple store today actually. I was at a Mall that has the only Micrsoft sales area in town so i was checking out the Surfaces. Those things are actually really nice and has two types of keyboards you can get within $10 of each other. Was really impressd but they are kind expensive.

After that, down a little ways was the Apple store. Was checking out the iPad 4which from what io gather is the same as a 3 but with a faster processor and one other minor thing i forget. Not sure why they needed to launch another one and call it the 4 with just those two minor things (is what i was told was the dif by one of their reps anyways)

Went to check out the iPhone 5's. Again as i always say i like the iPhone but they really need to widen it. It is just too skinny and it is really slippery with the aluminum back. Slipped out of my hand twice and almost fell off the counter.

If they would make it a 4.5-4.7" and make it wider, they would have a home run on their hands but for me to consider one they would also have to just give us more things, or i should say....options such as Keyboards, customizations, etc. It doesnt have to be just like Android but meet the people halfway at least without having to wait months for the 3 man dev team to have a jailbreak.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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I wouldn't leave my iPhone, I like to have both.

I've currently got the HTC One on pre-order however. It ships March 15th with S4 announcement on th 14th I'll only consider the S4 if

Touchwiz has been updated dramatically,

The case / she'll of the device isn't like the SGS3 and other previous samsung handsets (plasticy) which I hated aesthetically

They drop the home button, its horrible. I prefer capacitive (that goes same for iPhone too tbh)

That there isn't too much bloat ware.

It's not more expensive than the HTC One.
 

KentuckyHouse

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Jan 29, 2010
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I'm using my iPhone 5 as my secondary smartphone. My primary is my Note II.

I will be buying the Galaxy S4 upon its release. The advantages are too numerous to list. However I'm _not_ switching. I like iOS & Android & plan to continue to use both.

But unless Apple gives us a display around 4.7" to 4.99" on the upcoming model, the iPhone 5 will be the last iPhone I buy.

This describes me exactly except I'm using my S3 as my primary (as opposed to you using a Note 2).

I'll be picking up a S4 as soon as I can get my hands on one. :thumbup:
 

zbarvian

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Jul 23, 2011
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If they renounced their business strategy and design philosophy. As some people despise Apple, I despise Samsung. I've used Samsung phones and even owned one, and I want no association with that company. Everything they do is at odds with me.
 

ravenvii

macrumors 604
Mar 17, 2004
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Melenkurion Skyweir
If it looks like THIS.

galaxy-s4.jpeg
 

rezenclowd3

macrumors 65816
But unless Apple gives us a display around 4.7" to 4.99" on the upcoming model, the iPhone 5 will be the last iPhone I buy.

Personally I want an iPhone that is about the same size as my old Blackberry Pearl. I just bought a Droid Razr M because I am not about to buy something so huge as a 4.7-5in screen, and not going to yet pay $200 for an iPhone that is still too big IMO. I would much rather use iOS but I have yet to switch from Android yet.
 

SomeDudeAsking

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Nov 23, 2010
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I'll switch if they can sync all of my favorite iOS software: iCloud (mac mail), iMessage, iPhoto.

Migrate all your data out of Apple. Apple is the one who refuses to let anyone make third party clients. Gmail is way better than anything Apple provides and I HATE iMessage.
 

lbhskier37

macrumors regular
Mar 11, 2011
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Migrate all your data out of Apple. Apple is the one who refuses to let anyone make third party clients. Gmail is way better than anything Apple provides and I HATE iMessage.

Yes iMessage is terrible. Why would anyone want a to seamlessly bypass SMS. I hate how it just works. It's especially bad how it lets you pick your conversation up on a different device. Why would anyone want such garbage polluting their device.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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Migrate all your data out of Apple. Apple is the one who refuses to let anyone make third party clients. Gmail is way better than anything Apple provides and I HATE iMessage.

Some of us have too much invested in Apple to be able to migrate - and a lot of us simply don't want to move and especially not to 'gmail'.

Google are not the saviours of the universe and gmail is no comparison to a legacy .mac account.

iMessage is one of the main reasons that I'll never 'not have' access to an iPhone or iOS device. The majority of people texting me do so via iMessage and best of all - they don't even realise it. It's made picture & video messaging easy and vastly cheaper (free on iMessage) here, and it means I don't have to buy a text SMS plan from my carrier for texting folks on other networks.

The fact that people are unaware they are using it is good. Because it makes them use it by default, whereas any other IM solution (what's-app) requires them to use a different messaging solution other than the default and have o check/manage two applications rather than one. The way Apple seamlessly blends iMessage with standard Messaging is great.

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Yes iMessage is terrible. Why would anyone want a to seamlessly bypass SMS. I hate how it just works. It's especially bad how it lets you pick your conversation up on a different device. Why would anyone want such garbage polluting their device.

Exactly - its fantastic and the way the user on the other end doesn't have to configure or do anything differently to standard SMS texting is key to it.
 

F123D

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2008
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Del Mar, CA
Migrate all your data out of Apple. Apple is the one who refuses to let anyone make third party clients. Gmail is way better than anything Apple provides and I HATE iMessage.

Transferred everything over to Google and love it. It's great how you can text where you left off from ANY computer or tablet with android and not be forced to use only apple products.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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a better place
Transferred everything over to Google and love it. It's great how you can text where you left off from ANY computer or tablet with android and not be forced to use only apple products.

Please tell us what native and by that i mean stock (comes on the device) android messaging application does this?

And how are you sending them via a computer?
 
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daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
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I must admit that I wasn't a big user of iMessage, not because I didn't like it, it was just that the majority of people I texted were not iPhone users. I migrated all my accounts from Apple, my @me account isn't my main e mail account anyway. I find that I prefer Google calendar on my Android and CalenGoo (superb app btw) on my iPad Mini. All of my music was really easy to copy to Google music from iTunes and free, so I still have all my music in the iCloud and also in Google music.
 

SomeDudeAsking

macrumors 65816
Nov 23, 2010
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Please tell us what native and by that i mean stock (comes on the device) android messaging application does this?

And how are you sending them via a computer?

And just because you can't change your default text messaging client on an iPhone to the better ones that Android users have is a problem for us because.....???? We have the choice of using messaging clients like MightyText or AirDroid that let us text from any computer or tablet and which don't lose messages or lose the order that they arrive in like iMessage has problems with so often.
 

matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
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Lincoln, England
Some of us have too much invested in Apple to be able to migrate - and a lot of us simply don't want to move and especially not to 'gmail'.

Google are not the saviours of the universe and gmail is no comparison to a legacy .mac account.

iMessage is one of the main reasons that I'll never 'not have' access to an iPhone or iOS device. The majority of people texting me do so via iMessage and best of all - they don't even realise it. It's made picture & video messaging easy and vastly cheaper (free on iMessage) here, and it means I don't have to buy a text SMS plan from my carrier for texting folks on other networks.

The fact that people are unaware they are using it is good. Because it makes them use it by default, whereas any other IM solution (what's-app) requires them to use a different messaging solution other than the default and have o check/manage two applications rather than one. The way Apple seamlessly blends iMessage with standard Messaging is great.

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Exactly - its fantastic and the way the user on the other end doesn't have to configure or do anything differently to standard SMS texting is key to it.

iMessage is a great idea but the execution could be better.

Messages are delayed for me on a daily basis. Ill be happily chatting away then suddenly won't get a message for about twenty minutes, and when it comes through the time stamp shows it was actually sent twenty minutes ago.

Facebook messenger is a lot more stable it seems. I haven't used it as much, but during the time I did use it it seemed instant. Only problem is it drained the battery really quickly.
 

F123D

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2008
3,776
16
Del Mar, CA
Please tell us what native and by that i mean stock (comes on the device) android messaging application does this?

And how are you sending them via a computer?


We have the choice of using messaging clients like MightyText or AirDroid that let us text from any computer or tablet and which don't lose messages or lose the order that they arrive in like iMessage has problems with so often.

Yup, MightyText or AirDroid. You use the STOCK messaging app on your phone and can continue on a desktop or tablet and everything syncs together.
 

strausd

macrumors 68030
Jul 11, 2008
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Texas
Yup, MightyText or AirDroid. You use the STOCK messaging app on your phone and can continue on a desktop or tablet and everything syncs together.

Please tell us what native and by that i mean stock (comes on the device) android messaging application does this?

And how are you sending them via a computer?

I have not come across any Android app that works as well as iMessage. Sure, you can send a text to someone from your computer with MightyText, which is what I use, but there are some major problems.

The biggest one is just how it works. MightText, and all the others I have tried, send the data to your phone, and then your phone sends the text. And same thing backwards. Your phone receives the data, and sends it over to the MightyText servers. So what happens if your phone is off? Nothing. You can't use it all. iMessage is completely different and will work even if your iPhone or iPad are both off.

Plus iMessage has been more consistent with syncing notifications of messages and having the message show up on both devices. Also, MightyText requires a chrome extension, or their web app. So if I am texting someone through MightyText on my iPad, I won't get any notifications of an incoming text.

iMessage is still king in this area.
 

F123D

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2008
3,776
16
Del Mar, CA
There's positives and negatives with any service. With iMessage, you're limited to the devices you can use. With MightyText, you're limited to whether the phone is turned on or off. If I forget my phone at home, I can still jump on any computer and check any text messages I have and reply back. Also like how I can go to work and still text people without having to pick up my phone every couple of minutes.
 
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