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The Robot Cow

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For hardware I would like to see more manufactures used more premium materials to build their phones. Yes this is pointed toward Samsung, especially their flagships. If you have had the chance to use a Moto X, it's a plastic phone but the way its built gives it a great premium feel to it.

Another is battery life. When i had an iPhone 5(with its 1440 mAh battery) was easily to last me all day vs my Galaxy Nexus(with the extended battery at 2100 mAh) struggles to stay alive for 6-8 hours. Yes hardware and software play a role in this but this is something that needs to improve.

I'm interested into what you guys would like to see improve in android.
 

matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
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Battery life.

Smoothness. Although the Galaxy S3 (last and best Android phone I owned) was very smooth, it's not the same as iOS in levels of smoothness.

Less fragmentation.

More care to ensure things work properly. For example with my iPhone it connects to my car's Bluetooth every time I get in the car. With my Galaxy S3 I had to turn Bluetooth off and on again to get it to connect sometimes.
 

fredaroony

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Aug 1, 2011
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Battery life.

Smoothness. Although the Galaxy S3 (last and best Android phone I owned) was very smooth, it's not the same as iOS in levels of smoothness.

Less fragmentation.

More care to ensure things work properly. For example with my iPhone it connects to my car's Bluetooth every time I get in the car. With my Galaxy S3 I had to turn Bluetooth off and on again to get it to connect sometimes.

lol bluetooth?? The iPhone has to be the worst device around for bluetooth compatibility unless something was specifically for it.

The battery life on my work 4S is rubbish compared to almost any of my Android phones I've owned.
 

matttye

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lol bluetooth?? The iPhone has to be the worst device around for bluetooth compatibility unless something was specifically for it.

The battery life on my work 4S is rubbish compared to almost any of my Android phones I've owned.

Works perfectly with my 'supertooth buddy' and battery life is awesome even though I leave everything on with my 5.

Anyway, to each their own :)
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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Battery life.

Smoothness. Although the Galaxy S3 (last and best Android phone I owned) was very smooth, it's not the same as iOS in levels of smoothness.

Less fragmentation.

More care to ensure things work properly. For example with my iPhone it connects to my car's Bluetooth every time I get in the car. With my Galaxy S3 I had to turn Bluetooth off and on again to get it to connect sometimes.

Agree regarding bluetooth. Every Android phone I've owned (Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Note II, HTC One) has suffered from the same symptoms--bluetooth connection to my car is inconsistent. Most of the time it's fine but a few times a week it'll only connect just audio, or just phone, sometimes neither. Sometimes just turning the BT off/on again solves the problem but on some occasions I have to reboot the phone. And there's no consistent pattern to when it happens. Same thing occurs with my stereo bluetooth headphones. Never had any problems like this with any of my iPhones.
 

T5BRICK

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Aug 3, 2006
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Vanilla Android available out of the box on more devices. HTC, Samsung, wireless carriers....I'm looking at you.
 

Gav2k

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Jul 24, 2009
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I've a nexus 4 (backup) and I do like it. It's a stretch to hit the top right of the screen which is annoying but the most annoying thing is the App Store. It's a pile of unorganised mess. And the 'it's free on android' it bs! It's not free, it's either flooded with adverts or time limited.

This is why my nexus is my backup and will remain my backup!
 

Ddyracer

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Nov 24, 2009
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What would make android more appealing is mainly more speed, better touch response, root and unlocked boot out of the box (or easy to enable via dev options) exclusive to Nexuses. Dual boot support as well.

And of course lots of improvements need to be made to android's ui. a better grid system, uninstall on home screen, vertical widgets.

Move to a white ui too. That said i'm an android user since 2012, so it's already quite appealing and i can't go back now it tastes too good!
 

WhyIndeed

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Aug 23, 2013
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What would make Android more appealing to you iOS users?

The MotoX is already damn near what I'd need to switch
  • Great battery life
  • Always on voice assistant
  • Impressive design
  • Smooth UI
  • Company that seems committed to more of a singlular model future and focusing on user experience, instead of throwing out junk after junk for short-sided profits and fighting the spec wars that mean nothing
 

T5BRICK

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Aug 3, 2006
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Oregon
What would make android more appealing is mainly more speed, better touch response, root and unlocked boot out of the box (or easy to enable via dev options) exclusive to Nexuses. Dual boot support as well.

Root and the unlocked bootloader were crazy easy on the HTC One. I don't have any complaints about speed or touch response either though.

And of course lots of improvements need to be made to android's ui. a better grid system, uninstall on home screen, vertical widgets.

Check out different launchers. I'm using the Nova Launcher and it adds some of the functionality you're looking for.

Move to a white ui too. That said i'm an android user since 2012, so it's already quite appealing and i can't go back now it tastes too good!

Themes are pretty easy...
 

siurpeeman

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Dec 2, 2006
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lol bluetooth?? The iPhone has to be the worst device around for bluetooth compatibility unless something was specifically for it.

definitely bluetooth. no android phone i've ever owned handled bluetooth particularly well. pairing was sometimes problematic, and more often than not i couldn't start audio streaming without first messing with the phone. with the iphone, it was always turn on the car and the music just started. battery drain from bluetooth usage is also much better on ios than on android.
 

whtrbt7

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Jun 8, 2011
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I've used Android and supported Android through numerous iterations. Here's why it doesn't make it to my daily phone use list:

1. Native Exchange support (This isn't that tough since the tech is based off of IMAP. It just takes a little organization and lining up the right syncing. 3rd party apps such as Touchdown suck at Exchange Sync still and compared to iOS is pretty incomplete.)
2. Battery life (Fortunately and unfortunately for Android, they do real multithreaded multitasking. This means that all apps can be run in background. Problem with this is battery life management which should be automated. I don't want to have to close my apps through some separate utility I download, I just want the phone to be smart enough to handle my battery life for me.)
3. Fragmentation (This is a big problem in terms of software. Android Software isn't smart enough to know that I have a larger screen or that the app was designed with another device in mind. Standardization and a walled garden help to make apps more seamless despite locking off functionality.)
4. Audio latency (Seriously, you have to ask? A lot of people listen to music on their phone. Why not have a low latency audio processor that can playback stuff right?)
5. MIDI support
6. Smarter Home Screen (It's just another thing to futz around with. Although it's great for seeing custom tailored info all at once on the phone at one time, I hate setting up widgets on the Home Screens. Even better is that if you switch Android devices by brand, you can't use the same Home Screens or keep the same stuff.
7. Solid native backup (You need a 3rd party app for this on Android when it should be built in. Part of the problem is that each phone or device you have from different brands react differently to the restoration of the backup. It's not easy enough and it's not complete enough.)
8. More stability on the OS side (Unfortunately I've crashed more Android phones consistently than iPhones. Sometimes it's the apps that crash, sometimes I get kernel panics, sometimes plugins crash the OS. It needs to just be simplified so that the OS doesn't crash as much.
9. Ecosystem (Yes, I've flushed hundreds of dollars down the drain with Android through 3rd party apps that don't really work well. Google has gotten better with the Play store but it's far from an all encompassing iTunes store which "forces" you to purchase content from them for it to work on almost any system. Apple's system gives the illusion of ease where as Google's solution seems to have constant hiccups.)
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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I think the last barrier will be app optimization for tablets, and in general, less app exclusivity for iOS. I think that's the last major frontier for Google/Android to balance out.

Almost everything else preventing people from switching is negligible and/or FUD (and that's including ecosystem between devices. Both my android devices play perfectly nice with my Macs).
 

Dr McKay

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Aug 11, 2010
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I'd like to not see a new android phone being released every 3 days.

Why is this an issue, pick an Android device that you know you'll love and stick with it, a new phone coming out shortly is likely to be negligible in difference. Maybe clocked a little higher or something. For noticable difference you need new CPU's to come out like Snapdragon 600 and 800. I went from an S4 with the Snapdragon 600, to an Oppo Find 5 running a last gen S4 Pro Processor, I don't notice the difference.
 

matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
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I never realised that BlueTooth was such an issue with so many Android users. I've never had any issues with BT on my SGS3. It connects every time.

More often than not id have to turn my Bluetooth off and on again. I put an NFC sticker in my car that toggled between two things; one turned Bluetooth off and the other turned it on, and opened the Bluetooth devices list so that I could connect to the Bluetooth as, at the time, NFC Task Launcher couldn't be used to connect to a specific Bluetooth device automatically.

Although that helped, I still had to take my phone out of my pocket and faff around touching it to the sticker. With my iPhone 5 it connects every time without me having to do anything.

Maybe it was just an incompatibility between the SGS3 and my particular Bluetooth device. Whatever the reason, I got sick of it given the amount of driving I do!
 

JackieInCo

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1. Battery life. I would love if my Nexus 7 could give me 10-15 hrs usage over 3 days. There are times when I barely get in 30 minutes in 24 hrs before it's back on the charger.

2. Apps need to start having a tablet version and to stop relying on the OS to upscale a phone app to the tablet size it is being run on.
 

fredaroony

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Aug 1, 2011
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I never realised that BlueTooth was such an issue with so many Android users. I've never had any issues with BT on my SGS3. It connects every time.

The only issue I have ever had with Android and bluetooth is the phonebook transfer in my car kit but an app fixed.

I've had several issues with the iPhone and different headsets and car kits though.

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If you barely get 30 min in 24 hours you have a faulty unit

Indeed, has nothing to do with Android if you have faulty hardware.

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I've used Android and supported Android through numerous iterations. Here's why it doesn't make it to my daily phone use list:

2. Battery life (Fortunately and unfortunately for Android, they do real multithreaded multitasking. This means that all apps can be run in background. Problem with this is battery life management which should be automated. I don't want to have to close my apps through some separate utility I download, I just want the phone to be smart enough to handle my battery life for me.)

You haven't had to do this for years now with Android...
 

THE JUICEMAN

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2. Apps need to start having a tablet version and to stop relying on the OS to upscale a phone app to the tablet size it is being run on.

I think this is why an iPad is still king for those who want a tablet. I'm hoping a nexus phone with an iPad will be the best of both worlds this fall.
 

Bankaimadness

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Jun 7, 2010
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Easy.

As a phone user I like android more for the following reasons:

1. Bigger display. I actually like to read comics and PDF files, so I prefer a display size that is 4.7 inches or more.

2. Drag and drop as opposed to being restricted to itunes. I generally hate working with itunes. I prefer simply dragging an dropping my files.

3. Not being able to use the iphone as a flash-drive.

4. The iphone seems too delicate.

5. Hate having to convert .AVI movie files. I don't like using third-party apps to play videos.
 

fredaroony

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Aug 1, 2011
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I think this is why an iPad is still king for those who want a tablet. I'm hoping a nexus phone with an iPad will be the best of both worlds this fall.

I agree with this, I use Android for my phone and iOS doesnt even come close to it in my opinion. For tablets it's iOS, in fact just bought a mini last night to replace my iPad 3.
 

The Robot Cow

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Sep 12, 2012
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The MotoX is already damn near what I'd need to switch
  • Great battery life
  • Always on voice assistant
  • Impressive design
  • Smooth UI
  • Company that seems committed to more of a singlular model future and focusing on user experience, instead of throwing out junk after junk for short-sided profits and fighting the spec wars that mean nothing

I got to play with a Moto X and man... It's making my decision very difficult to decide whether to get this or the new iphone :confused:

As much as i want the Nexus, I doubt that Verizon will see another Nexus on its network soon :/
 
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