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WhyIndeed

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Aug 23, 2013
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I got to play with a Moto X and man... It's making my decision very difficult to decide whether to get this or the new iphone :confused:

Me too man... me too :(

Moto X looks pretty damn awesome. I love the attention to detail they made on certain things like the active notifications and the always on voice assistant. Not to mention the commitment to great battery life in such a small package. Plus its a Google owned company so you just know they are going all in and will make sure the Moto X succeeds. I also can't stand big phones and like the compact design of the Moto X compared to the other Android phablets so I'm simply going to wait the 15 days until Apple unveils the iPhone 5s and make my decision then. It's definitely between those two though.
 
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JackieInCo

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Indeed, has nothing to do with Android if you have faulty hardware.

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I say it is a problem with the OS. Most of the time I can get between 2 - 5 hrs usage depending on what I am doing. It's the Cellular capable version so i leave data on 24/7. I've owned the Nexus 7 for 6 months now and battery life has always been hit and miss just as it is with my Nexus 4.

There are times when I barely used it and after 24hrs, its ready for the charger with 25 or so minutes screen time.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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My main things for Android would be fragmentation and also I wish using an Android phone didn't feel so much like a forced Google search, especially Google Now. Although I really liked Android, a big reason I like and stay with iOS is that Siri doesn't force me into an internet search half the time.
 

fredaroony

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Aug 1, 2011
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My main things for Android would be fragmentation and also I wish using an Android phone didn't feel so much like a forced Google search, especially Google Now. Although I really liked Android, a big reason I like and stay with iOS is that Siri doesn't force me into an internet search half the time.

You are not required to use Google Now so what do you mean?
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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My Galaxy S3 was a bit "flakey" with the bluetooth and I had to switch it on and off on a couple of occasions. My SGS4 has had no problems.:)

I have probably just put the mockers on the bluetooth on my S4 now. :eek:
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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You are not required to use Google Now so what do you mean?

Well what choice do I have for a voice assistant then? Samsung's option, what was it S voice or something like that, was incredibly horrid, and I have no idea what other manufacturers had if anything.

I'm not saying it's all bad, I just never found much functionality in it, either in the voice assistant or the cards themselves. But my needs were less related to internet searches and the information in my searches and emails, and more to functions on the phone itself and I just found Siri to be better suited to that.
 

The Robot Cow

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Sep 12, 2012
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Well Android is owned by Google so it is a bit obvious that they would want to tie in their service with it and use it as something to market it as an advantage over apple
 

Todd B.

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May 1, 2013
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For hardware I would like to see more manufactures used more premium materials to build their phones. Yes this is pointed toward Samsung, especially their flagships. If you have had the chance to use a Moto X, it's a plastic phone but the way its built gives it a great premium feel to it.

Another is battery life. When i had an iPhone 5(with its 1440 mAh battery) was easily to last me all day vs my Galaxy Nexus(with the extended battery at 2100 mAh) struggles to stay alive for 6-8 hours. Yes hardware and software play a role in this but this is something that needs to improve.

I'm interested into what you guys would like to see improve in android.

If Google was not involved at all.

Until then, I have no use for a phone whose sole purpose is to track every bit of my personal information for advertisers as possible.
 

appleisking

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May 24, 2013
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If Google was not involved at all.

Until then, I have no use for a phone whose sole purpose is to track every bit of my personal information for advertisers as possible.

If you're this paranoid you shouldn't be using anything social networking, or smart phones or computers or anything that sends out any kind of data really.
 

Todd B.

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May 1, 2013
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If you're this paranoid you shouldn't be using anything social networking, or smart phones or computers or anything that sends out any kind of data really.

It's not paranoia to not what personal information used in searches, advertisements, and location tracking. It's common sense.
 

JackieInCo

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It's not paranoia to not what personal information used in searches, advertisements, and location tracking. It's common sense.

Yes it is. You best cancel your phone service as well. Did you know that that all the major cellular service providers sell your location data? Search Google for it. It was big news just a few months ago.
 

appleisking

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It's not paranoia to not what personal information used in searches, advertisements, and location tracking. It's common sense.

And once again if you're blaming Google for it, you can blame everyone else and yes including Apple for it simply thanks to prism.
 

JackieInCo

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And once again if you're blaming Google for it, you can blame everyone else and yes including Apple for it simply thanks to prism.

Nothing is private anymore. It's the price we pay for being connected. No one is innocent, Apple, Google, Yahoo, AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, you name it. They sell you for profit. We agree to it by using their products.
 

Todd B.

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May 1, 2013
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And once again if you're blaming Google for it, you can blame everyone else and yes including Apple for it simply thanks to prism.

Um, I don't care about that stupid political thing. I'm talking about forcing everyone into a real name policy with a wide open "social network" and a search engine that remembers your location and scans your email to display search results. I don't see what Apple has to do with any of that.
 

appleisking

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May 24, 2013
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Um, I don't care about that stupid political thing. I'm talking about forcing everyone into a real name policy with a wide open "social network" and a search engine that remembers your location and scans your email to display search results. I don't see what Apple has to do with any of that.

I'm simply not gonna continue the conversation because I don't want to be modded for off-topic comments. But if you don't care about the "stupid political thing" why do you care about what Google does with your information? It's the exact same thing.
 

Todd B.

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May 1, 2013
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I'm simply not gonna continue the conversation because I don't want to be modded for off-topic comments. But if you don't care about the "stupid political thing" why do you care about what Google does with your information? It's the exact same thing.

Do you like being added to junk mail lists? I personally don't like having adverts targeted at me based on my personal life. If they want to show ads, whatever; I don't mind but don't use my browsing, email, search, and location history to do so. Personal preference, I know... I just would rather not have a corporation make money off of me by knowing that much about me when there's no reason for it. Honestly, you're silly if you put all your eggs in one "cloud basket" these days, IMO.

I don't follow politics at all so I can't say if it's the same thing or not, but I doubt it.
 

aneftp

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Jul 28, 2007
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Like to see more software support from carriers and manufacturers.

Make at least 18 month software support. By software suport I mean major updates and not security patches. T-mobile USA essentially abandoning flagship Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant after Jan 2011 and leaving the phone stuck with 2.2 froyo was absolutely ridiculous. For flagship phone 6 months old And end of life. That's abandonment.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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Well Android is owned by Google so it is a bit obvious that they would want to tie in their service with it and use it as something to market it as an advantage over apple

Yeah I hear ya, and I don't blame Google at all. I just found Siri's way of putting phone functions first instead of an internet search fit the way I used my phone better.
 

ReanimationN

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Sep 7, 2011
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Australia
- As few framerate drops as possible. This is a big deal to me, I can't handle paying for a device that is supposed to be powerful, then seeing it stutter and drop frames through basic actions.

- More accurate touch response. This is probably dependant on the device, but the first gen N7 was really poor here.

- Easy to use, built-in backup.

- All the apps I use, a few have made their way over in the past year, but there's a still a lot of Australia-specific apps that are iOS only.
 

The Robot Cow

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Sep 12, 2012
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Yeah I hear ya, and I don't blame Google at all. I just found Siri's way of putting phone functions first instead of an internet search fit the way I used my phone better.

I never realized how true this is until now. I know Google Now does do some basic things like alarms and reminders but that's all that i know.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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What would make Android more appealing to you iOS users?

Apple sharing their software on Android like Google does on iOS.

Imagine Android phone like the S4 that sync'd with iTunes (assuming you don't hate iTunes as many do), AirPlay, iMessage, photostream, find my friends, etc etc.

Basically freedom from the ecosystem. I don't have a problem with Apples ecosystem but if they don't sell a device you practically like or if the competition does. Well you are SOL.

Edit : I think this would literally destroy Apple so I don't ever expect it. Just be nice if there was a way to make it work.
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
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Aridzona
Do you like being added to junk mail lists? I personally don't like having adverts targeted at me based on my personal life. If they want to show ads, whatever; I don't mind but don't use my browsing, email, search, and location history to do so. Personal preference, I know...
So you "prefer" seeing ads for feminine hygiene products, the latest drug lawsuit, reverse mortgages, and a ton of other crap you have no use for rather than ads for stuff you might actually be interested in? Ok then. :rolleyes:



Michael
 
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