Whats next 11.1 or 12?

[andeify]

To me, it makes no difference what it is called. And as it is, I certainly will not be upgrading right away. Due to waiting for Tech Tool Pro to have a Big Sur update available, I suspect I will not be "upgrading" (actually a clean installation) until the 3rd update for Big Sur. But as Arnie says, No Problemo, as 1) a lot of the bugs with initial releases of Big Sur will be worked out by then, 2) I see nothing earth shattering in OS 11.x for me to have right away, and 3) Catalina runs fine.

Im going to do a clean install too, but I will probably do it as soon as its available. Im one of those who cant wait to update but then run into bugs and eagerly await them to be fixed.

Ive got a feeling Apple will stick with macOS 11 for some time and continue like 10 did. Although I don't think I would be surprised either way.

 

[iMac-iPad]

i like iOS version process, maybe applicable in macOS after the 2 years Transition to arm macs, i guess

 

[andeify]

i like iOS version process, maybe applicable in macOS after the 2 years Transition to arm macs, i guess

Yeah I would prefer Apple to follow the iOS convention for macOS

 

[honestone33]

Im going to do a clean install too, but I will probably do it as soon as its available. Im one of those who cant wait to update but then run into bugs and eagerly await them to be fixed.

Ive got a feeling Apple will stick with macOS 11 for some time and continue like 10 did. Although I don't think I would be surprised either way.

Myself, it's the third party software I use that is the deciding factor. In fact, except for the Finder, I do not use any Apple software. Additionally, given that maintenance and cleaning are very important, I require dependable maintenance and cleaning programs. That means both Onyx and Tech Tool Pro must be compatible.

As for the numbering, I suspect we'll see OS 11.0, 11.1, 11.2, 11.3, 11.4, 11.5, and 11.6. THat's typical with the number of releases Apple comes out with during the life of an OS.

 

[JohnDoe12]

Next year we'll get 12. Screw this OS X legacy numbering system. I was hoping they'd switch away a long time ago.

 

[honestone33]

Next year we'll get 12. Screw this OS X legacy numbering system. I was hoping they'd switch away a long time ago.

Yes, in 2021, we'll get OS 12.0, 12.1, 12.2, 12.3, 12.4, 12.5, and 12.6.

 

[Falhófnir]

They didn't specifically reference that this was going to be a new epoch with an 'all new MacOS 11' in the keynote, which makes me think it's going to be a mere version number, not a whole era of MacOS.

Having said that, with the references to 10.16, that might be because it was a last minute decision and they had already filmed the pieces?

 

[honestone33]

They didn't specifically reference that this was going to be a new epoch with an 'all new MacOS 11' in the keynote, which makes me think it's going to be a mere version number, not a whole era of MacOS.

Having said that, with the references to 10.16, that might be because it was a last minute decision and they had already filmed the pieces?

Actually, it's already been decided that the first version of Big Sur, expected out in the fall, will be OS 11.0:

Big Sur is officially macOS 11.0 as Apple finally leaves OS X behind

macOS 11.0 Big Sur is coming this fall

www.theverge.com

Beyond that, we are all just guessing about the subsequent version numbering within Big Sur. After it is "retired", don't know what will the number for the next OS that will most likely come out in the Fall of 2021.

 

[KPOM]

Another vote for “macOS 12” here. This is a symbolic move. Structurally, Big Sur is still “OS X” but Apple has been de-emphasizing the “OS X” branding for years, and calling in version 11 is a nod to Mac entering a new era with Apple Silicon.
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Actually, it's already been decided that the first version of Big Sur, expected out in the fall, will be OS 11.0:

Big Sur is officially macOS 11.0 as Apple finally leaves OS X behind

macOS 11.0 Big Sur is coming this fall

www.theverge.com

Beyond that, we are all just guessing about the subsequent version numbering within Big Sur. After it is "retired", don't know what will the number for the next OS that will most likely come out in the Fall of 2021.

The dialog box to download the first beta from within Catalina referred to it as “10.16.” However, once installed, it displays 11.0.

 

[Falhófnir]

Actually, it's already been decided that the first version of Big Sur, expected out in the fall, will be OS 11.0:

Big Sur is officially macOS 11.0 as Apple finally leaves OS X behind

macOS 11.0 Big Sur is coming this fall

www.theverge.com

Beyond that, we are all just guessing about the subsequent version numbering within Big Sur. After it is "retired", don't know what will the number for the next OS that will most likely come out in the Fall of 2021.

Yes, but there are references to 10.16 buried in the OS, suggesting it was a last minute decision (or some huge secret even internally, though I don't know why that would be?). Maybe that is why it wasn't introduced as 'MacOS 11' in the same way OS X was, or maybe it's because this is MacOS 11, next year will be MacOS 12, the year after MacOS 13 etc, so it's not a particularly remarkable change because it's not going to be with us for over a decade like X has been.

 

[honestone33]

The dialog box to download the first beta from within Catalina referred to it as “10.16.” However, once installed, it displays 11.0.

That is definitely strange! As it is, I will not do any testing of OS 11 until at least the first update comes out, OS 11.1. And if there is any indication that Tech Tool Pro will not have an update available "soon" (most likely), then I will not start testing it until at least V 11.2 arrives. Then of course there are all my other third party apps I use that must be ready too.

Catalina is fine for now, and even 6 months from now. There is nothing earth shattering in Big Sur, at least not for me.

 

[KALLT]

They didn't specifically reference that this was going to be a new epoch with an 'all new MacOS 11' in the keynote, which makes me think it's going to be a mere version number, not a whole era of MacOS.

They justified the version increment at the Platforms State of the Union by saying that Big Sur “improves … so much of the general architecture” and because “it is a new operating system all around”.

This indicates that version 11 is epochal. I also think that the continued emphasis of the California naming scheme over the version number makes it more likely that Apple does not intend to change the naming scheme to match their other software products, otherwise they probably would have done so on this occasion. Of course, Apple is not consistent; their marketing team could change its mind next year.

 

[Falhófnir]

They justified the version increment at the Platforms State of the Union by saying that Big Sur “improves … so much of the general architecture” and because “it is a new operating system all around”.

This indicates that version 11 is epochal. I also think that the continued emphasis of the California naming scheme over the version number makes it more likely that Apple does not intend to change the naming scheme to match their other software products, otherwise they probably would have done so on this occasion. Of course, Apple is not consistent; their marketing team could change its mind next year.

I guess the final decision might have been taken after the pieces to camera were recorded and in editing then? Otherwise I would have expected this to be emphasised... unless they purposely wanted to downplay the change element and focus on continuity throughout the transition... I'm going to stop second guessing their reasoning now 😂

 

[KALLT]

I guess the final decision might have been taken after the pieces to camera were recorded and in editing then? Otherwise I would have expected this to be emphasised... unless they purposely wanted to downplay the change element and focus on continuity throughout the transition... I'm going to stop second guessing their reasoning now 😂

On a purely technical level, calling it version 11 or 10.16 makes no difference. In my opinion, there is no technological leap in macOS Big Sur that warrants the new major version (not even the transition to ARM, if you consider the previous transition from PowerPC to Intel at around OS X 10.4), so it is in the end just a marketing decision.

 

[honestone33]

On a purely technical level, calling it version 11 or 10.16 makes no difference. In my opinion, there is no technological leap in macOS Big Sur that warrants the new major version (not even the transition to ARM, if you consider the previous transition from PowerPC to Intel at around OS X 10.4), so it is in the end just a marketing decision.

Exactly! And even if there was, I'd still wait until all my third party apps were compatible.

 

[Ansath]

MacOS 11.1 beta is out, that means that next years release coming to WWDC 2021 must be MacOS 12