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chabig

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With regards a close all option - it might not be useful to do it regularly, but over time a whole load of apps can get opened. So every once it a while I will clear them out, just so I can more easily use it to switch to an app I tend to use a lot, without the regular ones having loads of irregular ones interspersed.
Since the list is ordered by recency of use. the apps you "tend to use a lot" are always going to be close to the front of the list.
 

japtor

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Jun 29, 2010
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The new switcher makes more sense spatially - in western societies, we usually imagine and/or depict progress from left to right (so, older things go left). Everything works that way, even in browsers, to go back you click a thing pointing left.

It was the other (wrong) way round in 7 and 8.
It particularly makes sense in the context of slide over and multitasking for iPads. Older apps are to the left and underneath in the stack, opening new apps with slide over come from the right and overlap.
 

GreyOS

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Apr 12, 2012
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Yeah, I guess more support for the usefulness of the Reachability feature.
kind of off topic but on that note, reachability has been VERY temperamental for me and often doesn't work (isn't now). also, Safari swipe-to-go-forward doesn't work for me as of the last 6 hours. it faintly dims the right edge of the screen as if to say this is not possible, even though I have forward history and can use the forward button. sorry, totally off topic and expected in a beta, I'll raise these bugs but just had to get it off my chest.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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kind of off topic but on that note, reachability has been VERY temperamental for me and often doesn't work (isn't now). also, Safari swipe-to-go-forward doesn't work for me as of the last 6 hours. it faintly dims the right edge of the screen as if to say this is not possible, even though I have forward history and can use the forward button. sorry, totally off topic and expected in a beta, I'll raise these bugs but just had to get it off my chest.
Yeah, sounds like some beta inconsistencies most likely.
 

devinthomas

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Mar 16, 2013
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There's nothing to grab Handoff apps once your phone is unlocked. That's my only gripe. It's absolutely beautiful and so fluid. I literally just open apps to play with it.
 
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Prof.

macrumors 603
Aug 17, 2007
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why would you want to do that? it will kill your battery quicker. Keep your apps suspended in the background. If you are constantly killing all your apps your phone will use more battery to relaunch apps from scratch every time.
I didn't know that until someone told me on the first page of this post. Lesson learned.:(
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Should try to use your GPU more. Ever played a highly intensive graphical game? It drains battery all day useless you remove it.
If you are out of the game it should get suspended within 10 minutes and not affect anything.
 

stooovie

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Nov 21, 2010
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kind of off topic but on that note, reachability has been VERY temperamental for me and often doesn't work (isn't now). also, Safari swipe-to-go-forward doesn't work for me as of the last 6 hours. it faintly dims the right edge of the screen as if to say this is not possible, even though I have forward history and can use the forward button. sorry, totally off topic and expected in a beta, I'll raise these bugs but just had to get it off my chest.

Swipe to go forward is gone, at least on iPad. It would conflict with Slide over and iPad multitasking and isn't all that necessary anyway (slide to go back is super cool, OTOH).
 

GreyOS

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Apr 12, 2012
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Swipe to go forward is gone, at least on iPad. It would conflict with Slide over and iPad multitasking and isn't all that necessary anyway (slide to go back is super cool, OTOH).
ah, I'm on an iPhone, and thought it was working earlier but may have imagined it. I've rebooted and still not available. a shame if they have removed it on iPhone because it obviously doesn't have slide over, but maybe they have removed it for consistency :(
 

stooovie

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Nov 21, 2010
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I can't confirm this being the fact on iPhone as I restored to 8.3 for time being (9 beta 1 is very good for a first beta but phone ran hot for two days, destroying the battery).
 

mazz0

macrumors 68040
Mar 23, 2011
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The only apps you really need to close are ones that are intentionally made to run in the background the entire time ... like maps or music streaming apps ... etc.

You'd be better off denying such apps background running permissions wouldn't you? I think that's an option in Settings, but I may be wrong.
 

GreyOS

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Apr 12, 2012
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You'd be better off denying such apps background running permissions wouldn't you? I think that's an option in Settings, but I may be wrong.
hmm but remember there are a bunch of background things that can happen, like audio and voip, which are not covered by background app refresh. BAF is a specific form of background processing. you don't need BAF on spotify to listen in the background, for example.
 

lchlch

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Mar 12, 2015
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You are correct not all background activities are governed by background app refresh. This things includes location services, music, telephony and services with special permission.
 

GreyOS

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You are correct not all background activities are governed by background app refresh. This things includes location services, music, telephony and services with special permission.
this has always bothered me, but i suppose apple don't want users to have too much control and then wonder why things aren't working. but i would really appreciate these categories as things you can switch on/off (a bit like the privacy options, but i suppose these don't really pertain to privacy).

now that FB messenger and whatsapp offer VoIP, i suppose they must also take advantage of the background VoIP privilege. now i don't know how much battery this really uses when idle, but it must use some (plus they could exploit it for other tasks) so i'd be much happier if i could deny them this privilege in Settings as i don't need that feature of the apps, only the text messaging.
 

lchlch

macrumors 6502a
Mar 12, 2015
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this has always bothered me, but i suppose apple don't want users to have too much control and then wonder why things aren't working. but i would really appreciate these categories as things you can switch on/off (a bit like the privacy options, but i suppose these don't really pertain to privacy).

now that FB messenger and whatsapp offer VoIP, i suppose they must also take advantage of the background VoIP privilege. now i don't know how much battery this really uses when idle, but it must use some (plus they could exploit it for other tasks) so i'd be much happier if i could deny them this privilege in Settings as i don't need that feature of the apps, only the text messaging.
Listening for incoming VoIP calls shouldn't be that power hungry. Even if they are, in the battery usage tab you are able to see what kind of background activities are taking up the power.
 
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mazz0

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Mar 23, 2011
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You are correct not all background activities are governed by background app refresh. This things includes location services, music, telephony and services with special permission.

Don't you have permissions toggles for those things too?
 

AleXXXa

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Feb 22, 2015
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You're not supposed to do that. Seriously, it's been 5 years since iOS 4 (that brought multitasking) and people still don't know you shouldn't close the damn apps because that way you'll waste more battery.
LOL. Not closing apps waste more battery. Try it.
Charge an ipad to 100% and don't touch it for a few days. If you close all apps, you will still have 95+% battery left, if you have apps in the background after a few days you'll get 60-75% battery left.

Seriously, it's been 5 years since iOS4. Is it that hard to do a simple test and see for yourself that closing all apps saves battery? Jesus!
 
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lchlch

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Mar 12, 2015
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LOL. Not closing apps waste more battery. Try it.
Charge an ipad to 100% and don't touch it for a few days. If you close all apps, you will still have 95+% battery left, if you have apps in the background after a few days you'll get 60-75% battery left.

Seriously, it's been 5 years since iOS4. Is it that hard to do a simple test and see for yourself that closing all apps saves battery? Jesus!
Can you try that test again with background app refresh turned off?

Btw you are not actually "closing" apps in the app switcher.
 

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May 3, 2012
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You'd be better off denying such apps background running permissions wouldn't you? I think that's an option in Settings, but I may be wrong.
Yes, that's an option, but that would be a bad idea for some apps.
 

mazz0

macrumors 68040
Mar 23, 2011
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Um... Maps? Google Maps? Music streaming services? Things that you need to have running in the background to function properly?

They can't function properly if you close them either. Aren't we talking about things that do background processing that shouldn't be doing background processing?

Are you talking about apps that sometimes you want to do background stuff, but which also continue to do it even when you don't want them to, in which case clearly it's easy to kill them than to go turn their permissions off (and then back on again next time you want to use them). If so that makes sense, although I don't know of any such apps (open to being informed though, I might be able to get myself some longer battery life on iOS9).
 
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