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matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
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As can most every complaint with Android be solved with rooting/flashing, etc. My understanding is that rooting actually opens up more than jailbreaking.

Not sure I'd agree with that!

Have you ever seen anything like Quasar on iOS for Android? (brings window-based multitasking):

Quasar-1.0.jpg
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Not sure I'd agree with that!

Have you ever seen anything like Quasar on iOS for Android? (brings window-based multitasking):

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Nope. That's very cool. I said "most". ;) Definitely do not think all problems can be solved by rooting (and definitely not by jailbreaking).

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Ha, I love how ChazUK and F123D and I all essentially just called out michaeljohn over the same thing at almost the same time. Just kind of funny.
 

matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
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Nope. That's very cool. I said "most". ;) Definitely do not think all problems can be solved by rooting (and definitely not by jailbreaking).

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Ha, I love how ChazUK and F123D and I all essentially just called out michaeljohn over the same thing at almost the same time. Just kind of funny.

I was responding more to the "My understanding is that rooting actually opens up more than jailbreaking." bit :p
 

b166er

macrumors 68020
Apr 17, 2010
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Philly
Right now, I am using both iOS and Android. I was in the google ecosystem back when Gmail was an invite only beta, so I have a lot of documents and calendar stuff going on there. I always purchase my music through iTunes, and in the past few years several TV shows as well. I've been using iPhones since the iPhone 3G. But recently I've been using a nexus 7 and I love it- enough to the point where I am considering switching my main phone over to a GS4 when they drop next year.

I think that for entertainment, Apple has it nailed down, especially for the home. I love how my music and movies sync and I love the Apple TV, etc. But I think that when it comes time to buy my next phone I am going Galaxy. The nexus 7 has shown me so much, and I'd really like to have that kind of productivity in my pocket VS on a tablet.

Only problem is there is no getting out of either ecosystem at this point, I think I will always have a foot in both camps which kind of drives me nuts but it also has some benefits.
 

dalbir4444

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Oct 30, 2012
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That said, the one thing that lets down Android for me isn't the OS itself but the hardware. Android phones just don't tend to have the same level of build quality as iPhones and the customer service from Android phone makers is terrible compared to Apple's.

Do you mean the build quality or the internal hardware?

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Not sure I'd agree with that!

Have you ever seen anything like Quasar on iOS for Android? (brings window-based multitasking):

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That looks pretty cool if it works well. Isn't this similar to what Samsung has in their Galaxy Notes.
 

0dev

macrumors 68040
Dec 22, 2009
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127.0.0.1
Do you mean the build quality or the internal hardware?

How likely the phone is to break basically.

As well as my broken HTC, my friend has an HTC with a broken digitiser (he didn't do anything to it at all) and my other friend has a Samsung which randomly stops taking calls. These things don't tend to be built well.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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Galaxy Note is two windows side-by-side AFAIK, whereas this is draggable, rotatable windows.

I believe quasar is only for the iPad. There are plenty of root and OEM options on Android (I used cornerstone) that are available on phones and tablets. As cool as it looks I don't see a reason to rotate the windows.
 

dalbir4444

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Oct 30, 2012
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How likely the phone is to break basically.

As well as my broken HTC, my friend has an HTC with a broken digitiser (he didn't do anything to it at all) and my other friend has a Samsung which randomly stops taking calls. These things don't tend to be built well.

I can't speak for HTC but Samsung's Galaxy S and S2 were pretty solidly built.
 

0dev

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Dec 22, 2009
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I can't speak for HTC but Samsung's Galaxy S and S2 were pretty solidly built.

The S2 is what my friend has, keeps refusing to receive calls. I had the original Galaxy S and the headphone socket broke and it shipped with a faulty bootloader.
 

dalbir4444

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Oct 30, 2012
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The S2 is what my friend has, keeps refusing to receive calls. I had the original Galaxy S and the headphone socket broke and it shipped with a faulty bootloader.

Hmm. I don't know what to say. There are always bound to be faults with any device. But my S2 has been running very well. I've heard lot of praises for the S2 so I think your friend was pretty unlucky. Was it a new unit and was it running the stock Samsung ROM?

But I can agree with the customer service. If you have an Apple store nearby your house, it's a big advantage.
 

0dev

macrumors 68040
Dec 22, 2009
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Hmm. I don't know what to say. There are always bound to be faults with any device. But my S2 has been running very well. I've heard lot of praises for the S2 so I think your friend was pretty unlucky. Was it a new unit and was it running the stock Samsung ROM?

But I can agree with the customer service. If you have an Apple store nearby your house, it's a big advantage.

Yes, it was new and running a stock ROM, not even rooted. My HTC has running CyanogenMod but there's no reason that should cause any problems, I didn't overclock it or anything.

Absolutely, Apple wins on customer service.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
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Lincoln, England
I believe quasar is only for the iPad. There are plenty of root and OEM options on Android (I used cornerstone) that are available on phones and tablets. As cool as it looks I don't see a reason to rotate the windows.

I too don't see a reason for rotating windows, but I know there are some 3D desktop implementations on Windows that are quite popular so there's obviously a market for that type of thing.

Personally I'm happy with the task switching on both iOS and Android, was just demonstrating one of the advanced hacks available on jail broken devices!
 

Jibbajabba

macrumors 65816
Aug 13, 2011
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5
I love the ability to add widgets. They make a huge difference in productivity. Also, I find notifications to be far better than on iOS. There are many others, but these are some of the main ones.

^^ that. I didn't even know about widgets when I swapped my 4S for an S3 but once you used them, you don't want to miss them. Our local train time app in UK comes with a widget where you set home and work station. The widget updates the train times based on your location so you know instantly when the next train home / to work goes. Then there is cozi - that calendar app. With widget - awesome. Also most apps I owned on iPhone / iPad are on Android with widgets. My RDP client - creates a 'shortcut' to certain connections and the list goes on and on.

The reason I switched was the ability of customising the phone and damn, it is better than I initially thought.

As for productivity - swype keyboard (stock with Jelly Bean) must be the best invention since sliced bread.
 

Wrathwitch

macrumors 65816
Dec 4, 2009
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FWIW,

So far I will be sticking with Android for a few reasons:

1) Yes I am loving hiding the apps in an app drawer and allowing a clean look on my device without having to create other pages to do so.

2) While I find 4.8" a bit large for my preferences now, 4" is WAY too small. I will hope one day that with a new iOS team and perhaps a larger display in the future.

3) painless ringtone and notification set up.

4) So far the phone has been very reliable and hasn't locked up on me once since I have had it and since I use this as an alarm clock, that is important to me.

5) I am not a huge widget user, but I do love the beautiful widgets set up with my wallpaper it looks very clean and aesthetically pleasing to my eye.

6) Where I do appreciate the larger screen is pretty much doing everything but having to tuck it easily into a pocket!!!

7) I really wanted to be tempted by the iPhon5, but other than its relative indestructibility, there was no appeal whatsoever, just the same damn icons in the same position.....oh and a bit taller of a phone.

8) I can't justify buying another phone anyways, and since this one works, why switch?

To answer the initial question though, the DECIDING factor for me was just that iphone5 was lackluster. If it had been a 4.3" screen even, I might have held out and went for it. 4.5" is kinda my sweet spot for a phone.
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
961
5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
When I first entered the smartphone market, I did not choose iOS. I chose a Nokia Symbian phone, the N97. The deciding factors at the time was that the N97 had a built-in offline mapping app (Ovi Maps) and a landscape slider keyboard. I did not choose a BlackBerry because I wanted a larger screen. The N97 had a 3.5" screen and the keyboard slides out. Also, what motivated me to get a smartphone was that I was going on vacation that summer and wanted a mapping app. I thought about getting a dedicated GPS device, but felt that a smartphone could do all that and more.

The N97 had a great mapping app and I loved the keyboard. Unfortunately, everything else about the phone sucked. After my vacation, I had enough of it and decided to get a new phone. The lack of a keyboard was the main reason I did not consider an iPhone. At the time, the HTC Desire Z was just released. I tried it out and decided to get it.

A few months ago, my DZ's battery was failing. After being unable to find a replacement battery, I decided to get the SGS3. Even though the SGS3 did not have a physical keyboard, I decided to get it since it was new. The only keyboard phone available at the time was the Motorola XT860 released last year and was only 9 months newer than my DZ.

I decided to stick with Android because I loved my DZ so much. I loved having widgets and wanted a similar experience to my DZ. I had considered getting the HTC One S, but the deal breaker for me was that the One S only had 16GB of storage and was not expandable. If it only had more storage, I would have gotten the One S. I did not consider an iPhone because I would simply lose too much switching to iOS.

In August 2011, I got a tablet. I tried a few and actually felt the iPad 2 at the time was the best one. Then I found out about the Asus Eee Pad Transformer. The one killer feature for me about the Transformer was the keyboard dock accessory. I felt that the Transformer had the best keyboard dock of any tablet at the time. I do a lot of typing and really prefer physical keyboards. In spite of the fact that I thought the iPad 2 was the better tablet, I felt that the Transformer with keyboard dock was just overall better for my needs than the iPad 2 with a keyboard dock.
 
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