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Boil

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My guess for iMac Pro will be April and Mac Pro November. Apple seems to be rolling out from the least to more capable machine for AS.

I would think Mac Pro (as well as possible Mac Pro Cube & 32" iMac Pro) previewed at WWDC 2022, with availability in December 2022...
 

LonestarOne

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If the rumors of dual & quad M1 Max SiPs hold true, that would double & quadruple the number of Thunderbolt controllers...?

I see no evidence that those are anything more than rumors. Apple hasn’t used multiple AS chips up to now. It seems more likely that they’ll just keep developing bigger and bigger chips. Whether that will happen in time for a spring 2022 release is unknown, however.
 

ader42

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I think the new iMacs will have M1 Pro and M1 Max inside.
I think you will need to look to Mac Pro for multiple M1 Max in a single Mac.
I am however puzzled about the Mini… I think the M1 Pro and M1 Max SOCs will be too large for a Mini… so we might just get an M2 Mini when the M2 MBA releases…

So I’m getting an M1 Max MBP - and if I need/want to upgrade from that I will.
 

Boil

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I see no evidence that those are anything more than rumors. Apple hasn’t used multiple AS chips up to now. It seems more likely that they’ll just keep developing bigger and bigger chips. Whether that will happen in time for a spring 2022 release is unknown, however.

Wow, how dare I mention a rumor about the ASi Mac Pro lineup, while I am here on a rumors forum...! ;^p

Highly doubtful Apple is going to develop "bigger and bigger" chips... The larger the die, the lower the yield per wafer... The larger the die, the lower the yield due to failed chips... The larger the die, the higher the cost of the finished product...

But by taking multiple SoCs & integrating them on a SiP (System in Package), one gets a "larger die" that does not have the issues associated with actually trying to produce massive dies...

And why would Apple use multiple SoCs so far...? None of the current Apple silicon products need it, nor have they ever had multiple CPUs...

The Mac Pro is the only Mac product (ignoring the XServe) that has used more than one CPU, so it only makes sense the Mac Pro lineup would be the ones any multi-SoC designs were reserved for...

I think the new iMacs will have M1 Pro and M1 Max inside.
I think you will need to look to Mac Pro for multiple M1 Max in a single Mac.
I am however puzzled about the Mini… I think the M1 Pro and M1 Max SOCs will be too large for a Mini… so we might just get an M2 Mini when the M2 MBA releases…

So I’m getting an M1 Max MBP - and if I need/want to upgrade from that I will.

Not too large, just look at the teardown videos for the 2018 Mac mini, the 2020 M1-powered Mac mini, & the 2021 16" MacBook Pro...

Looks like plenty of room for a M1 Pro / Max mobo in there...!

Both the 2018 Intel Mac mini & the 2020 M1 Mac mini have the same 150W PSU, so no need to change that...
 
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Boil

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If the rumors of dual & quad M1 Max SiPs hold true, that would double & quadruple the number of Thunderbolt controllers...?

I see no evidence that those are anything more than rumors. Apple hasn’t used multiple AS chips up to now. It seems more likely that they’ll just keep developing bigger and bigger chips. Whether that will happen in time for a spring 2022 release is unknown, however.

Wow, how dare I mention a rumor about the ASi Mac Pro lineup, while I am here on a rumors forum...! ;^p

Highly doubtful Apple is going to develop "bigger and bigger" chips... The larger the die, the lower the yield per wafer... The larger the die, the lower the yield due to failed chips... The larger the die, the higher the cost of the finished product...

But by taking multiple SoCs & integrating them on a SiP (System in Package), one gets a "larger die" that does not have the issues associated with actually trying to produce massive dies...

And why would Apple use multiple SoCs so far...? None of the current Apple silicon products need it, nor have they ever had multiple CPUs...


The Mac Pro is the only Mac product (ignoring the XServe) that has used more than one CPU, so it only makes sense the Mac Pro lineup would be the ones any multi-SoC designs were reserved for...

Passive aggression is not actually a rational argument.

And your only replying to that first line in the way you have could also be seen as being passive aggressive, especially with your ignoring my comments as to die size & the such...
 

ADGrant

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I think the new iMacs will have M1 Pro and M1 Max inside.
I think you will need to look to Mac Pro for multiple M1 Max in a single Mac.
I am however puzzled about the Mini… I think the M1 Pro and M1 Max SOCs will be too large for a Mini… so we might just get an M2 Mini when the M2 MBA releases…

So I’m getting an M1 Max MBP - and if I need/want to upgrade from that I will.
The M1 Pro and M1 Max SOCs are not too large for the current mini chassis and power supply (which is ludicrously large for an M1). The Intel Mini can be ordered with a six core i7 desktop chip (65W TDP I think).
 
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Boil

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The M1 Pro and M1 Max SOCs are not too large for the current mini chassis and power supply (which is ludicrously large for an M1). The Intel Mini can be ordered with a six core i7 desktop chip (65W TDP I think).

150W PSU, so totally overkill for the M1 SoC, but perfect for a M1 Max SoC...

Before some say a M1 Max SoC does not need 150W, there are other things within the chassis that use power as well, and some things that provide power OUT, so that power has to come from somewhere...

And the 8th Gen Intel CPU (from 2018, as we approach 2022 & Intel is set to release their 12th Gen CPU) at 65W, we all know Intel CPUs are stated to be a certain TDP, but real world usage has that TDP a bit higher...?

WHAT DO WE WANT...?!?

A MAC MINI M1 MAX...!!!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT...?!?

WWDC 2022 AT THE LATEST...!?!

;^p
 

ader42

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It was the physical size I was worried about as the M1 Max looks massive in videos I’ve seen compared to the M1 mini on my desk, so good to know it would physically fit.

erm, we wants it now actually ? my precious…
 
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