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Then all the moaning about jobs going to China can now stop.
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Super!
Then all the moaning about jobs going to China can now stop.
*Puts feet up on table and breathes a sigh of relief.*
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Steve Jobs began working on the AppleLisa in 1978 but 1982 he was pushed from the Lisa Team due to infighting, and took over Jef Raskin's low-cost computer project, the Macintosh. A turf war broke out between Lisa's corporate and Jobs over which product would ship first and save Apple. Lisa won the race in 1983 and became the first personal computer sold to the public, but was a commercial failure due to its high price tag and limited software titles.
Actually the Macintosh was launched in January 1984. My recollection was 1983 but I guess I was wrong
Steve Jobs began working on the AppleLisa in 1978 but 1982 he was pushed from the Lisa Team due to infighting, and took over Jef Raskin's low-cost computer project, the Macintosh. A turf war broke out between Lisa's corporate and Jobs over which product would ship first and save Apple. Lisa won the race in 1983 and became the first personal computer sold to the public, but was a commercial failure due to its high price tag and limited software titles.
Actually the Macintosh was launched in January 1984. My recollection was 1983 but I guess I was wrong
Hey I like American products just as much as the next person. But people are dumb for complaining about 1 company pit of thousands that also produce overseas. & their complaints are probably typed up on a non-American made keyboard. It's just silly. Get over it. I don't want a $1500 iPad made in America. I want a $499 iPad made in china. Until it can be made for the same cost here then it can stay in china, production that is.
Everyone that complains about non-American products is a hypocrite to me.
Everyone that complains about non-American products is a hypocrite to me.
I certainly wish it would.
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And iPads aren't even really made in China, which speaks to the amount of ignorance that gets brought into the debate by people like the OP. iPads are assembled in China but primarily made outside of China. For the iPhone, only something like $7 of the total manufacturing cost occurs in China, despite the fact that they're put together and shipped from there.
We live in a global economy, and that's not a bad thing.
Answer from somebody who was called hypocrite
You provably are in a Galaxy far, far away, please come down to Earth and visit USA, is that chunk of land in the west having a rate of unemployment that pretty soon very few people will be able to afford even the $ 499 Ipad, on the other hand if the american companies (not only one in particular) create domestic employment the $ 1500 ??? Ipad is not going to be a problem or any other item for that matter, also production brings down prices. If this corporations decide to produce abroad, no problem since in that way they can continue with the so call free trade (by the way is a disadvantage for USA). Provably with the technology that we invented you heard in the Galaxy far,far away that in America everything was very prosperous economically years ago.
Calling hypocrite to people who do not have a choice is unfair, I guess many try to get domestic products, but were do you find them?.
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You provably are in a Galaxy far, far away, please come down to Earth and visit USA, is that chunk of land in the west having a rate of unemployment that pretty soon very few people will be able to afford even the $ 499 Ipad, on the other hand if the american companies (not only one in particular) create domestic employment the $ 1500 ??? Ipad is not going to be a problem or any other item for that matter, also production brings down prices. If this corporations decide to produce abroad, no problem since in that way they can continue with the so call free trade (by the way is a disadvantage for USA). Provably with the technology that we invented you heard in the Galaxy far,far away that in America everything was very prosperous economically years ago.
Calling hypocrite to people who do not have a choice is unfair, I guess many try to get domestic products, but were do you find them?.
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Companies making a profit, oh noes!
Seriously, why the hell does it matter if it's made in the US or not? Take a moment to have a break from the flag worshipping and think for a minute. Yes, it would be better for your economy if your country exported more, but first of all, it's not just Apple who manufacture in China, and second, the laws of supply and demand are absolute and will certainly rule over the emotional response to how a private company conducts its business from a random forum guy.
Did anyone ever buy Macs just because they were American anyway? I certainly never did. I don't care where they're made as long as they're good computers.
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Apple has over half a million enployees in America. That benefits the economy. No?
Apple has over half a million enployees in America. That benefits the economy. No?
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The random guy in the forum as well as the musician has to eat too and if he is not a chair wormer doing office work can not subsist.
Ido not know Joss Stone
The random guy in the forum as well as the musician has to eat too and if he is not a chair wormer doing office work can not subsist.
Ido not know Joss Stone
That's not the way economics works, though. Consumers make purchasing decisions based on price. It appears that American consumers are obsessed with price over all other considerations. They may bemoan the loss of jobs around a beer (still domestically made, if not owned) - but they will head out to the Walmart to buy the cheapest product, regardless of where it is made.
Free-trade itself does not put the USA at a disadvantage... only the way that it taken advantage of. One of the lazy comparisons that people make is to look solely the trade surplus/deficit. The USA is still a manufacturing nation, and still exports a huge amount of goods. What you don't have as much of any more are the raw resources and oil. And car factories. The raw materials you import from Canada get turned into manufactured goods... you get the jobs, we get the holes in the ground. The oil you just burn up moving big hunks of chrome around the countryside (hint: Add a 25 cent/gallon tax to gasoline and watch your trade deficit decline). The auto pact is an interesting case. Automobiles are made on both sides of the border (and by that I mean any single domestic automobile has probably travelled across the border a couple of times - and has parts made on both sides of the line). However the bulk of the assembly happens in Canada - so it looks like a trade deficit. However, the profits stay on the US side for the most part. One of the reasons, btw, for the Canadian car making advantage is our "socialized" health care. The car companies save a lot of money not having to take out basic health insurance in Canada, for either current employees or retirees. Plus we tend to be healthier - again saves on health care costs. Though that is balanced out by the longer pension payouts since we also tend to live longer. So I guess it's a wash, eh?
I think that number also includes employees of companies that Apple does business with... like FedEx and parts suppliers.... but correct me if I'm wrong.
To my knowledge System76 assembles their computers in the United States but of course components are still made in China
Companies making a profit, oh noes!
Seriously, why the hell does it matter if it's made in the US or not? Take a moment to have a break from the flag worshipping and think for a minute. Yes, it would be better for your economy if your country exported more, but first of all, it's not just Apple who manufacture in China, and second, the laws of supply and demand are absolute and will certainly rule over the emotional response to how a private company conducts its business from a random forum guy.
Odev, I forgot to tell you before that I am not wearing the American Flag made in China is the garments made there, my other choice will be walking naked
That is my point... the reason why there are so few choices is because American consumers chose to buy the cheap products. The consumers made that choice.
Even in market as large as the US, those car makers don't offer all models. Too hard to sell. You'd be gob-smacked at the models those car makers offer in other markets.
Just a technicality, but the Canadian figure is now down to about 60% of our exports, and we are working to bring it down further.
But that's my point. You can't just look at the dollar figures, it's too simplistic.
This is a hypothetical example to illustrate my point.
Lets just say that the USA had no domestic maple syrup production (sorry Vermont), and therefore bought $10M worth of bulk syrup a year from Canadian suppliers. Canada obviously doesn't need to buy Maple Syrup (in this scenario) from American suppliers. Trade deficit is $10M for the US. However, American companies take that $10M of raw syrup, and turn it into $40million of confections and other goodies. None of that money goes to Canada... it all stays in US. That's $30 million worth of jobs and equipment purchases. Which, spin off to create even more jobs. Even if all of that imported maple syrup is consumed by Americans, even though the trade deficit number looks bad, the value added by American labour more than makes up for it. If some of the American produced maple syrup products are then exported, then the apparent trade deficit gap is narrowed.
In reality - the US is importing a whack of raw materials from Canada, and using American labour and equipment to turn those raw materials into manufactured goods. All of that value-added work is benefiting Americans. Any profits that American companies make selling manufactured products (with Canadian raw materials) abroad also benefit Americans. (And that's fine... that's what free-trade is about). The fact is that Canada's small population makes it almost impossible to sell American goods into this country to match the value of raw materials we sell to American companies. That's why I say that you can't just look at the trade deficit $. One of the things that is skewing the trade balance is that so much oil is being imported into the US, and then just wasted. There is little value being added...it's just being used to move big cars around.
For about 10 or 20 years. And then only at great cost. Many of those recovery scenarios require vast amounts of water. Which is already in short supply. So in order to recover the shale gas, irrigated farming must be curtailed - or Los Angeles loses access to a major water supply (as examples, not specifically). Just because the energy is in the ground doesn't mean it's easy to get at.
So, other countries don't love their families as much? It's also a false safety. There are more indirect harms done, than direct harm reductions on those very rare occasions when having a ton of metal might actually help.
Me too. Had to use it two weeks ago - on Sunday afternoon - when I poked myself in the eye. Popped in the ER. Saw a doctor, got my tetanus shot updated as a precaution. Was referred to a specialist who was on call in the city (we live in small rural community). He opened his office and he did about half a dozen tests on my eyes (drops, pressure, examined the cornea, and the retina, and I don't know what else - both eyes just in case.) Wrote it all up, gave me two weeks worth of antibiotic drops. We had a very nice (and late!) Vietnamese dinner and caught the last ferry home. Didn't cost me thing - besides dinner. Even the ferry fare was covered since it was a medical trip. No paperwork either... I just waved my Care-Card at the hospital ER nurse.... no, I'm mistaken.... it took us 5 minutes to fill in the travel request form. You call an automated line, tap in some numbers from the form the hospital gave us. Write in the authorization number that the automated line provides. Then we just hand over the form at the ferry terminal.
Lots actually, though the media only pick up on the exceptional cases. Of course there also - never reported - Americans who come to Canada for specialist care. Of course, they have to pay. For example, Vancouver is known for it's sports medicine specialists. You never know which basketball or football star you are going to bump into there. Governor Palin's family used to use Canadian health care as well.
It's not surprising.... America has nearly 10 times the population. There are a few speciality areas where economies of scale make a big difference. What the media don't report is that of those Canadians who are being treated in the US, 90% are there on their provincial health insurance plans. It makes more sense to pay for some speciality care from an American facility on an as needed basis rather than maintain an expensive facility that is only used rarely. You may see it as superior care... we see it as a good use of money.
I read that other article. We've had, over the past few years, had more than our fair share of time spent using our healthcare system. That article bears no relationship to our experiences. Or to any of your friends across the country. Of course all we have are our experiences... and you have an internet article. So the article must be right.
And - lots of Americans are going to India, Poland, Mexico for medical treatment. Are you saying, just because they are going there, that the Mexican medical system is better than the US one?
Very very few. And there are some areas where Canadian hospitals are world leaders, so we get our fair share of Americans coming here too. It's one of the benefits of the open border. American and Canadian hospitals can send people to the facility with the best care, regardless of the border.
Actually - we are supposed to be writing about Apple products here.... So...
I have only a few minor problems with the idea of free-trade that allows Apple products to be assembled in China, Korea, or Brazil. Wish we had some of those plants here in North America, but we don't do that kind of work anymore. We do other work. Do you think iOS will ever multi-task?
multi tasking
check this link http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/iphone/how-to-use-multitasking-on-ios-4-0-iphone-43gs3g.xhtml
check this link http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/iphone/how-to-use-multitasking-on-ios-4-0-iphone-43gs3g.xhtml
Think it'll work on an original iPad? I'll have to try it. We don't have an iPhone so can't try it on that.
Thanks.
Why would you want to make them in the USA? The way things are going more Apple products will be sold in China than the US anyway
Something to think about
I came across Yesterday, very scary http://www.georgiainjurylawyerblog.com/2009/04/car_accidents_in_small_vehicle.html
I came across Yesterday, very scary http://www.georgiainjurylawyerblog.com/2009/04/car_accidents_in_small_vehicle.html
Yikes! Lucky for me those types of accidents are very rare. I'm much more likely to get thumped by a tree falling onto the bedroom ... and I'm not buying a new house just for that.
From the article "... the manufacturers of the small cars said the tests simulated a high-speed crash that rarely happens on the road."
The chances of a person being in a high-speed crash is really low. Being in a head-on crash even much less likely still. Thanks for pointing out that article, nonetheless.