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Cost reduced meaning flat out price cut and no new CPU to improve on A14? Surely A15 as a minimum? After all, that's driving the cheapest iPhone.

As for the Mini, an A16 and call it a day sounds very much like a treading water update. Another priced cut would make sense if the basic iPad is getting an update.

Both would be welcome though.
At this point if they are waiting for fall I doubt it will come with an A16, probably will get a form of the A18 so they can sell it as is for another 3 years.
 
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If the next iPad mini will get little more than a processor upgrade, I wonder what the holdup is.

When the iPad Mini 6 came out in 2021, it was essentially a smaller version of the 4th gen iPad Air (the last model before the iPad Air got the M1 chip). In fact, it's chip was a little faster than the iPad Air 4. It had many of the same features as the Air, including Apple Pencil 2 support and a very similar form factor (just smaller). It seemed like Apple was positioning the iPad Mini as a smaller version of the iPad Air, but equally capable (for the most part).

That changed in 2022 when the iPad Air got the M1 chip and the Mini did not. Then, Apple let both models whither for a few years.

Now, it seems the Air will get the M2 chip. Will the Mini even get an M-series chip when it comes out in late 2024/early 2025? Or does Apple no longer want to position it as a smaller version of the iPad Air, instead relegating it to a similar status as the budget iPad?
I suspect they plan to wait for the A18 as they likely don’t want to keep building the A17 once the iPhone 15 Pro is discontinued in the fall.
 
Tim “I’ll keep the existing assets from last year to save money” Cook strikes again.

Hah, well he's like me then. Fortunately we both cave in and go for something newer in the way of Apple gear on a fairly regular basis. I'd love a new iPad Mini and am willing to wait for it, although my XR is getting long enough in the tooth that I should upgrade my phone first. Looks like Tim Cook may agree with me there. 😉
 
I'm confused:

Gurman says:
The new downscale iPad will probably end up being a cost-reduced version of the 10th generation model from 2022

... and Macrumors then says:
An eleventh-generation iPad could start at a lower price than the 10th-generation iPad, which could pave the way for Apple to discontinue the ninth-generation iPad with the Lightning connector.

which is nothing like what Gurman said.

Though really, Gurman's rumour is sad and makes less sense:
  • 10th gen iPad remains unchanged, no 11th gen iPad this year?
  • 9th gen iPad is replaced an upgraded model, but doesn't catch up to the to the 10th gen iPad
  • but beyond how sad that sounds: What would it even be called??!!? 9.5th gen? Apple might as well just rebrand the cheaper iPad the iPad SE.
Macrumors rumour seems far more appealing:
  • 11th gen iPad comes out, replacing both the 9th gen and 10th gen iPad in the lineup, priced between the two.
Neither rumour are what I would expect as "normal":
  • eventually the 11th gen iPad comes out, and the 10th gen replaces and takes the 9th gen's price point.
 
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I really hope for the education market they keep the headphone jack if they drop the 9th gen. There is no way we can ask parents to spend more than $10-15 on headphones. Also, Bluetooth need charging, and students are already really bad at charging the device, no need to add another. We also can't really go with the adapters as those will just get lost in droves. The iPad is really a great K-1, maybe even second grade device. Above that, they get Chromebooks.
 
I'm not going to be surprised if Apple sooner or later abandons the mini.
It was their best selling iPad for a while. Then they made some comments that made it clear they only think of it as their budget iPad model, and flooded the market with more budget iPad options. At no point has anyone from Apple made any comment that gives the impression they've actually use one and understand that it is unique in its attributes as a mobile device rather than a portable one like a full sized iPad. ...which makes sense considering the half-baked OS they keep simply porting over from other iPads. If they had any idea of the usefulness of a cellular-equipped Mini 5, just small enough to pocketable and go with you almost everywhere as your alternate main device to your phone, with pencil on a large enough screen to write and draw and collaborate, they'd make a serious go of tailoring the OS to that use case not treat it as an afterthought.
 
So it sounds like that processor roadmap from about a month ago might have some legitimacy to it…
  • A14 Bionic: iPad (11th-generation) in Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi + Cellular configurations. The model number does not correlate to what the ‌iPad‌ (11th-generation) is expected to have, so it may be a modified ‌iPad‌ (10th-generation) in Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi + Cellular configurations instead, or potentially a HomePod with a display.
  • A17: iPad mini (seventh-generation) in Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi + Cellular configurations. This may be the A17 Pro chip or an A17 variant.
  • M2: iPad Air (sixth-generation) in 10.9- and 12.9-inch display sizes and in Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi + Cellular configurations.
  • There were also eight more identifiers for two unreleased chips that likely relate to the four models in the iPhone 16 lineup and the next-generation iPad Pro in 11- and 13-inch display sizes. The next-generation ‌iPad Pro‌ is widely rumored to launch later this month and feature the M3 chip that Apple first introduced in October 2023. However, the sequence of identifiers raises the unexpected possibility of the ‌iPad Pro‌ containing the M4 chip.

 
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Both really need an M class chip to unify the OS. iPadOS for A chips is one experience, M chips is another. Apple has to develop both streams that are growing farther apart. Surely the M1 chip is cheap enough to add to the iPad and iPad mini.
Agreed. Please put the M1 in the Mini. It’s been out for a good few years now. Heck, stick the M2 in it!
 
I really hope for the education market they keep the headphone jack if they drop the 9th gen.

There is zero -- and I mean zero -- good reason to drop the headphone jack off iPads.

If they do that, it's pure greed at the expense of useful and functional consumer experience.

With Tim Cook still in charge, I expect they will axe it
He doesn't care at all about anything besides more optimization and stock prices

This is what we get for having "the Ops Guy" in charge.
It'd be fascinating to see what Steve would say of his choice, a decade plus on.

As someone who has watched a few cancer battles first hand (all losing affairs) and seeing how it impacts the people and their priorities and judgements in the moment .... I forgive Steve 100% for the Tim choice. Larger things loomed and if one hasn't experienced that, it's hard to understand how unimportant anything not related to day to day health and situation can become.

We no longer have a product driven company, which I have to think Steve would loathe.
 
iPad 11 with price cut and minor upgrades to replace iPad 10 this September-October, although it would be better in July-August during back-to-school promotions.

iPad 9 could be discontinued at anytime, but I suspect it will coincide with introduction of iPad 11.
 
iPad 11 with price cut and minor upgrades to replace iPad 10 this September-October, although it would be better in July-August during back-to-school promotions.

iPad 9 could be discontinued at anytime, but I suspect it will coincide with introduction of iPad 11.
Sounds good, but it doesn't sound remotely like what Gurman dropped. :/
 
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Agreed. Please put the M1 in the Mini. It’s been out for a good few years now. Heck, stick the M2 in it!
The reality is that the M* class chips are different power and thermal devices than the A* class chips.

Given the smaller screen with fewer pixels to push, I see nothing wrong with the iPad minis continuing with the A* class chips, which are also pretty great.
 
The only mini iPad I would buy is a mini Pro. 👌
What I would pay a lot of money for:
  • 8.3” 120 Hz OLED screen
  • 500 Nits SDR/ 600 Nits HDR
  • Apple Pencil support with integrated charging
  • Landscape Face ID camera
  • 8 GB RAM
  • 512 GB SSD
  • 4 Speaker ATMOS speakers
  • Rear camera can be the same as iPad mini 6 or better
  • WiFi 6E or 7
  • Latest 5G cell radio
  • A18 Pro SoC
What we are going to get is an iPad mini 6 with an upgraded Ax chip.
 
If the mini doesn‘t come around soon, i‘ll look for something small to install linux on. Heck…
 
Cost reduced meaning flat out price cut and no new CPU to improve on A14? Surely A15 as a minimum? After all, that's driving the cheapest iPhone.

As for the Mini, an A16 and call it a day sounds very much like a treading water update. Another priced cut would make sense if the basic iPad is getting an update.

Both would be welcome though.
I think a A18 or at least rebranded A17 (using the new N3E process) is more likely. The last iPad mini CPU jump was from the A12 in the iPad mini 5 to the A15 in the iPad mini 6. I expect a similar jump given the price of the mini.
 
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