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Totally silly idea that Apple would drop iMessage.

On the contrary, Apple will want to keep it as it's one of the unique aspects of iPhones. One of Apple's challenges (which it faces in China) is having iOS offer something special. If all iOS does is act as a platform for other apps then there's no reason to buy an iPhone vs an android device (which can also run WhatsApp, FB messenger, etc.). In China everyone uses WeChat and the like, which is more or less platform agnostic, meaning everyone can buy cheap phones instead. Apple won't let that happen (or will try to avoid having it happen).
 
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Totally silly idea that Apple would drop iMessage.

On the contrary, Apple will want to keep it as it's one of the unique aspects of iPhones. One of Apple's challenges (which it faces in China) is having iOS offer something special. If all iOS does is act as a platform for other apps then there's no reason to buy an iPhone vs an android device (which can also run WhatsApp, FB messenger, etc.). In China everyone uses WeChat and the like, which is more or less platform agnostic, meaning everyone can buy cheap phones instead. Apple won't let that happen (or will try to avoid having it happen).

Also this. I've tried quite a few Android phones over the years and before I got my Apple Watch, iMessage was the sole reason I couldn't keep them as daily drivers. These days, it's the main focal point in my argument as to why someone should switch to iOS.
 
History tells us that Apple doesn’t shy away from pulling the plug on old technology. First with the removal of disc drives from its computers, to the loss of the headphone jack and home button on recent iPhones


These are not comparable. You’re comparing hardware against software.

The world hit “peak text” in 2012, and the number of text messages sent since then has declined sharply. In its place, 3rd party messaging apps such as Facebook messenger and WhatsApp have prevailed as the dominant method of communication, for anybody under the age of 90 that is

Yes, iMessage is not the same as SMS. However it uses the same app, had the same layout, and reverts to text in areas of poor network coverage, or of course in the recipient is not using an iPhone. Whether or not the bubbles are blue or green, then, is immaterial. It is essentially a dying form of communication, much like writing letters by hand and sending them via pigeon

On this basis, when will Apple stop supporting iMessage? I personally believe it will make it to iOS 13, but then no longer be included in iOS 14 as no doubt the market share will have declined even further by this point

Apple has built iMessage as a platform rather than just a messaging service. Your whole argument goes around it being a messaging service but that’s far from the truth. iMessage is also a payment mechanism right now along with a gaming platform aside from being a messaging platform that integrates traditional text messaging with IP based messaging seamlessly. This is not a minor thing, just so you know.

iMessage is not as popular in Europe and Asian countries because of other factors, not due to an issue with the platform as such.
 
iMessage is not as popular in Europe and Asian countries because of other factors, not due to an issue with the platforms as such.
As far as I observed, romance speaking countries (Italy, Spain, etc) are all over Whatsapp, while germanic not so much, and slavs are still using SMS. :D
 
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History tells us that Apple doesn’t shy away from pulling the plug on old technology. First with the removal of disc drives from its computers, to the loss of the headphone jack and home button on recent iPhones

The world hit “peak text” in 2012, and the number of text messages sent since then has declined sharply. In its place, 3rd party messaging apps such as Facebook messenger and WhatsApp have prevailed as the dominant method of communication, for anybody under the age of 90 that is

Yes, iMessage is not the same as SMS. However it uses the same app, had the same layout, and reverts to text in areas of poor network coverage, or of course in the recipient is not using an iPhone. Whether or not the bubbles are blue or green, then, is immaterial. It is essentially a dying form of communication, much like writing letters by hand and sending them via pigeon

On this basis, when will Apple stop supporting iMessage? I personally believe it will make it to iOS 13, but then no longer be included in iOS 14 as no doubt the market share will have declined even further by this point
What are you even talking about? Just because you don't use iMessage doesn't mean that "anybody under the age of 90" does the same. This is a pointless thread.
 
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The only people I know that use whatsapp are my foreign friends and family. Everyone in the US with an iPhone uses imessage which is about 90% of the people I know. Also under your scenerio what happens if someone with an Android or none iOS device sends you a text message? would it just get lost in space?
 
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Here's a better question. Which would Apple do first: Get rid of iMessage or release iMessage on Android? :D

now that’s a tough one. On one hand releasing iMessage on Android will increase the user base for the platform but then the exclusivity won’t be there anymore which is one of the major selling point of iOS devices.
 
Never. iMessage is a huge revenue generator for them ever since they included your entire archive in your iCloud backup.

I know tons of people that didn't pay for iCloud and never would have.... but then all of a sudden they were "out of space" and ended up paying because they didn't want to ever lose their message history.... literally subscribed for ONLY that reason.
 
I've got the email (yes, I know, another dying for last 10 years technology that only old geezers use) saying tomorrow at 5:59 as well. From Tim Cook himself (never knew he was a Nigerian prince).
Well, I guess that’s makes it official.
 
Knowing Apple they might revert to this if sales drop too low.
I was referring to Facebook messenger.

I'll tell you this: If they sell a 999$ phone with ads on their messaging service they will shoot themselves in the knee.
Nobody will buy a thousand dollar ad device. (who am i kidding)
 
I was referring to Facebook messenger.

I'll tell you this: If they sell a 999$ phone with ads on their messaging service they will shoot themselves in the knee.
Nobody will buy a thousand dollar ad device. (who am i kidding)
Ah, I thought you were talking about iMessage.
 
Why are we even discussing this?

There's literally zero ground for discussion

We need to kill some time before tomorrow 5:59 to see if iMessage will really stop working.
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now that’s a tough one. On one hand releasing iMessage on Android will increase the user base for the platform but then the exclusivity won’t be there anymore which is one of the major selling point of iOS devices.

Am I the only one who thinks that Apple good give Fcebook a serious blow by releasing iMessage for Android? It has the potential to kill off both WhatsApp and Messenger... or at least seriously harm.
 
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If anything Apple needs to integrate FaceTime Voice with the regular phone app. If FaceTime is available, prioritise it over a carrier call. Makes international travel a breeze.
 
Wish this forum had thumbs down like reddit for posts like this.

Provide some sources for these claims.
 
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Am I the only one who thinks that Apple good give Fcebook a serious blow by releasing iMessage for Android? It has the potential to kill off both WhatsApp and Messenger... or at least seriously harm.

I don’t think releasing iMessage will have that much of an impact. The existing solution is working really well for people. Average consumers are always reluctant to change if the existing solution is good enough.

This is the same reason why a new mobile platform will not make a dent in iOS and Android market.

I’ve experienced this first hand when I dumped everything Facebook including WhatsApp. Only a very handful of people cared to download signal to stay in touch with me.

The rest just disappeared from my life. (it’s not that I’m complaining... )
 
History tells us that Apple doesn’t shy away from pulling the plug on old technology. First with the removal of disc drives from its computers, to the loss of the headphone jack and home button on recent iPhones

The world hit “peak text” in 2012, and the number of text messages sent since then has declined sharply. In its place, 3rd party messaging apps such as Facebook messenger and WhatsApp have prevailed as the dominant method of communication, for anybody under the age of 90 that is

Yes, iMessage is not the same as SMS. However it uses the same app, had the same layout, and reverts to text in areas of poor network coverage, or of course in the recipient is not using an iPhone. Whether or not the bubbles are blue or green, then, is immaterial. It is essentially a dying form of communication, much like writing letters by hand and sending them via pigeon

On this basis, when will Apple stop supporting iMessage? I personally believe it will make it to iOS 13, but then no longer be included in iOS 14 as no doubt the market share will have declined even further by this point


Eh?! Personally I don't like using FB messenger or all the other built in messanging options that so many apps pointlessly seem to add these days. Also, though I have whatsapp I rarely use it. It's effectively doing the same thing but simply takes up an additional app so I think 'whats the point'. The only time I use FB to message if if I don't have a phone number. As long as we have phones, the primary form of communication will also be calls and texts on said phones. iMessage is not in the least redundant in that respect. Text messaging in whatever form will like be around long after facebook has gone.
 
I can’t even fathom the idea of no iMessage. I doubt iMessage will be pulled out, if anything else, they will just keep on upgrading and improving it.
 
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