That's what I originally heard, but Wikipedia changed it to 2.0 GHz for some reason.
I'm inclined to believe it's 2.13 GHz, since 2.13 - 1.87 = 1.87 - 1.6.
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I'm inclined to believe it's 2.13 GHz, since 2.13 - 1.87 = 1.87 - 1.6.
OH GOD NO, IT DOES NOT NEED TO MATCH TIS BROTHERS WITH THE BLACK BEZEL LOOK
.One thing imho it doesn't need is that, that will be a disaster if it were to happen. Fortunately weight and thinnes make heavy demands but god forbid they manage to find away and make it like the rest. Actually the reverse is what should happen with the rest reverting back to the air look. Unibody looks to great if it weren't for tha horrid reflective glass....and what about the whole line looking exactly the same with the black and aluminum, sure minimal is ok, and simple uniform design cues, but this is just too damn boring...COME ON APPLE, COME OUT WITH THE NANOCROMATIC COLOURS FOR THE IMACS AND MACBOOKS, TRUST ME, YOU LL SEE YOUR SALES DOUBLING, ANYONE AGREE HERE?
They will have to keep bumping the hard drives and ssd on an at least per six month cycle to compete though and they know that because due to the thinness factor they got the smallest ssd and hd they could find in form factor and that translates to small storage, I just fitted my 12 inch thin and light 4 or so year old lappie with a 250 ata drive, and in the likes of sata drives you can get for the lenovo at al. thin and lite notebooks have made it to the 500 gb mark. At 120 gb and with our current huge collections of documents, podcasts, music, video etc. the hard drive is joke as is the ssd and it's way way way down low in terms of the compettion. Trust me as soon as hd at this from factor or ssds come out apple is going to be the first one to upgrade to them. It doesn't make sense otherwise. You can't have the f. acer mini one sporting an 150 gb hd or so, and your fabulous air a 120 one, you can't have thin and light lenovos and hps goign with the likes of 500 gb hds almost 1/5 of what you have.
Remember apple had to wait almost four weeks and an extra 3 or so after the announcement just to get these guys who make their hdds for the air (toshi is it?) come up with a product ready to deliver, that's how desperate they were about size, do you think as soon as a larger one comes out they ll hold back and wait?
I think apple updated it after just 8 months to get the new graphics on board and because of the overheating issues. The RevB seems much better so they might leave it longer.
That 10 months elapsed between the release of Rev. A and Rev. B without even a speedbump is unusual for a Macbook. And given what we know so far, a MBA update is likely happening in April or May.
relatively certain:
2.13 Ghz and 1.83 Ghz
likely:
4GB RAM
glass trackpad
SSD price drop and 256GB SSD option
improved battery technology similar to 17" MBP
possible, but rather unlikely:
higher screen-resolution (1440x900)
black bezel and glass screen
FW800 port (let's keep on dreaming)
general price drop
carbon fiber bottom (see recent rumors)
relatively certain:
2.13 Ghz and 1.83 Ghz
likely:
4GB RAM
glass trackpad
SSD price drop and 256GB SSD option
improved battery technology similar to 17" MBP
possible, but rather unlikely:
higher screen-resolution (1440x900)
black bezel and glass screen
FW800 port (let's keep on dreaming
)general price drop
carbon fiber bottom (see recent rumors)
The main constraint seems to be heat. Rev A is too hot and I wouldn't want my Rev B to get any hotter. This means that the processor speed won't be going anywhere fast.
I'd certainly like to see more RAM and it's unfortunate that computers are marketed on processor speed. I'd buy a 1.6 GHz MacBook Air with 8 GB RAM and SSD anyday though that's not going to happen anytime soon. I'd care very little about a 2.0 GHz processor.
I'd certainly like to see more RAM and it's unfortunate that computers are marketed on processor speed. I'd buy a 1.6 GHz MacBook Air with 8 GB RAM and SSD anyday though that's not going to happen anytime soon. I'd care very little about a 2.0 GHz processor.
My guess is that they will update near August/September just in time for the "Back-To-School Specicals!"
It would go up slowly though.
Hopefully the upcoming MacBook Air will have a version with 4 GB RAM and a more affordable SSD option. 8 GB is pretty far away I think.
Lower power DDR3
The release of DDR3 means lower power usage which equals lower heat.
See http://www.micron.com/products/dram/ddr3/
Not sure if Apple uses the 1.5v or the 1.35v modules in the Air
The release of DDR3 means lower power usage which equals lower heat.
See http://www.micron.com/products/dram/ddr3/
Not sure if Apple uses the 1.5v or the 1.35v modules in the Air
This is really not true. The new rev B MBA's CPU isn't faster than the original 1.6/1.8 and 1.6/1.86. The reason is the rev B MBA has a 45 NM Penryn CPU while the original had a 65 NM chip. Sure the graphics help heat issues too.
Actually, the scheduled Intel Penryn 45 NM SSF chip is 2.13 GHz and due out in March/April. So CPU speed will go up and it will use virtually the same power.
I don't think 4 GB of DDR3 RAM will overheat it either. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am the rev C MBA will sport 4 GB RAM, a faster CPU, and a 256 GB SSD option. Apple will make us rev B owners want to switch and make the premium price point a better value for the technology.
Hey scottsdale, great news about the 2.1 penryn, I wasn't aware that something like that was in the pipeline, but then with intels numbering scheme it makes it really hard to keep track of these, thanks for the heads up.
Actually google just spat out this here:
http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h125408750
Apparently (Anybody speaking japanese here???) this is an engineering sample of the upcoming 2.13 Ghz LV Core 2 Duo chip - this could indicate that a release is probably not too far away.
The roadmap also shows an updated of the LV and ULV C2D line in Q1 before the general Montevina refresh in Q2 2009:
http://www.zimbio.com/Intel+Core+2/articles/92/Intel+Mobile+Processor+Roadmap+2009+Leaked
It wouldn't be the first time Apple released products with CPUs before they were officially announced by Intel. This was not, however the case with the Rev. B MBA and also not with the Rev. A MBA which had an Apple-only CPU.
Of course everything is pure speculation and although May is still more likely for MBA updates, there is a slight possibility that we could see an updated MBA already in late March. Much I guess depends on how Apple is doing selling the current MBA. Crossing the 2Ghz threshold is something that from a psychological point of view could get people to buy one.
http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h125408750
Apparently (Anybody speaking japanese here???) this is an engineering sample of the upcoming 2.13 Ghz LV Core 2 Duo chip - this could indicate that a release is probably not too far away.
The roadmap also shows an updated of the LV and ULV C2D line in Q1 before the general Montevina refresh in Q2 2009:
http://www.zimbio.com/Intel+Core+2/articles/92/Intel+Mobile+Processor+Roadmap+2009+Leaked
It wouldn't be the first time Apple released products with CPUs before they were officially announced by Intel. This was not, however the case with the Rev. B MBA and also not with the Rev. A MBA which had an Apple-only CPU.
Of course everything is pure speculation and although May is still more likely for MBA updates, there is a slight possibility that we could see an updated MBA already in late March. Much I guess depends on how Apple is doing selling the current MBA. Crossing the 2Ghz threshold is something that from a psychological point of view could get people to buy one.
I think April would be pushing it and that's six months from last release announcement... May would be six months from actual release of the revised MBA.
I can wait until April or May for a revision C machine. However, I fear that it will be like September. For some reason a lot of people are convinced that Apple will update the MBA once a year like the iPhone. I am hopeful it's every six months like the MB and MBP. However, if you really think about it, the revision B MBA is plenty amazing as is, and could easily be around and viable for another six months.
I will be buying the new MBA whenever released. Hopefully with 2.13 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Penryn 45 NM SSF LV chip, 4 GB RAM (as BTO option anyways), and a 256 GB SSD... anything else and I think I would be dreaming... my other ideas are pretty far from likely. I actually think that I may be kidding myself on the 4 GB RAM, but I really think Apple needs to make the rev C enticing so the rev B owners like me will want to upgrade. I guess, even if a new BTO 256 GB SSD is released, I will be upgrading my MBA. I really NEED the extra disk space, as I would LOVE to have everything on my MBA at all times. The 128 GB drive is about 40 GBs too small for me to fit everything on it, and I hate feeling like I am missing files all of the time.
I can wait until April or May for a revision C machine. However, I fear that it will be like September. For some reason a lot of people are convinced that Apple will update the MBA once a year like the iPhone. I am hopeful it's every six months like the MB and MBP. However, if you really think about it, the revision B MBA is plenty amazing as is, and could easily be around and viable for another six months.
I will be buying the new MBA whenever released. Hopefully with 2.13 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Penryn 45 NM SSF LV chip, 4 GB RAM (as BTO option anyways), and a 256 GB SSD... anything else and I think I would be dreaming... my other ideas are pretty far from likely. I actually think that I may be kidding myself on the 4 GB RAM, but I really think Apple needs to make the rev C enticing so the rev B owners like me will want to upgrade. I guess, even if a new BTO 256 GB SSD is released, I will be upgrading my MBA. I really NEED the extra disk space, as I would LOVE to have everything on my MBA at all times. The 128 GB drive is about 40 GBs too small for me to fit everything on it, and I hate feeling like I am missing files all of the time.
I felt the same, but then thought you never know with , so I bought the Rev.B and when Rev.C is released I can sell the Rev.B on eBay for not much of a loss if it is a considerable upgrade.
Love your wished for specs, but must admit even the 1.6 HDD I am using at the moment is surprisingly fast (I went for the 1.6 HDD as will have the least amount of depreciation).
You know, as much as I absolutely hated my original MBA, I did sell it a week before the new one was announced at only $150 loss plus taxes and shipping. So, I agree, with the rev B MBA, you are not going to lose too much.
I have used the new MBA 1.6 with HDD. I agree it is still a very worthy computer. It is much faster than an original MBA at 1.8 with SSD. I would use any rev B MBA as a primary computer. If I didn't have to reboot four to five times daily, on work days, I would have just bought the lower end model.
I am having a problem with drive space. I think if the new MBA whenever released, has 4 GB of RAM and a 256 GB SSD option, I will buy it. However, if it doesn't have 4 GB RAM, I may just try to upgrade the SSD myself. There is a thread that was just opened today by a poster who determined how to make a SATA drive work with an LIF connection. If the poster is successful with their own, I am going to look for a larger SSD for my MBA and NOT upgrade the MBA itself.
There is money to be made so someone will work out how to upgrade the SSD. There is no point at the moment as most are still within warranty. Another six months or so lots of people will be happy to tear apart!
As for HDD, does anyone know if there is a 160GB out yet? Presumably the next iPod classic update (September?) will confirm this. But if the next step for SSD is 256MB then that makes a big difference between HDD and SSD, so I could see the price of the SSD maintaining it's larger margin.
Was that here on Macrumors? Do you have a link? I am interested as I wanted SSD but couldn't justify the cost. If you can pick any SATA SSD, that is a different story.
EDIT - nevermind....found it.