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ColdShadow

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But why? They are good as they are. Battery can't get much better, no space for buttons. They could have somewhat better gestures but Apple likes to keep it simple. They could have the ability to measure heart beat and possibly blood oxygenation. But that will add another 100 dollars and cut the battery in half.
The shape and design is what put MANY people off.and is in need of urgent improvement.
right now they look weird and frankly ridiculous,many people don't want to wear them for that reason alone.

Also sound quality is as basic as it gets.exactly same as cheap old free earbuds,so it's natural to expect better sound quality too.
 

bambooshots

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They seem popular enough where demand is still outpacing supply.

So it's not likely the design that puts people off.
 

Billburns

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hope its not anytime soon, id love to grab the current pair and use those for quite some time..
 

RadioGaGa1984

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The shape and design is what put MANY people off.and is in need of urgent improvement.
right now they look weird and frankly ridiculous,many people don't want to wear them for that reason alone.

Also sound quality is as basic as it gets.exactly same as cheap old free earbuds,so it's natural to expect better sound quality too.

In your opinion
 

Eddie3345

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Nov 20, 2016
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In MY Opinion.......

1. No clue on when new ones will come out. Buy it if you want it.You are your own person.
2. I personally love them. Great sound.
3. Yes the normal ear buds fit MY ears well.
4. I never intended on buying them when i did, i walked into the store for something random (apple tv issue) and made a joke about them NEVER being in stock and she tapped a few buttons on her iPod and not 3 minutes later i had them in my hand and i made the choice to buy them weather anyone on a forum said to or not.
 

ColdShadow

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And look at the many opinions, if not more, of people who like them and enjoy them and who don't GAF what others think.
I didn't claim people don't like them and don't enjoy them,I just mentioned at the same time most people are a little uncomfortable with the design and not fully satisfied with audio quality.
which is %100 true and rightfully so.
There is so much room for improvement.
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Exactly. A 98% satisfaction rating and the fact they can’t keep them in stock speaks volumes.
You are missing the point.
Read what I said above.
 

RyanTheGeneral

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Sep 10, 2009
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AirPods are apple mouse type devices. I don't think they'll update them just for the sake of it. More chances are that they'll probably update once the technology gets enhanced somehow. Like integration of wireless charging or something.

My thinking is late 2018 is when we might see version two of the AirPods. I think if we do see the second version of the AirPods, they likely be reduced in size and maybe have some form of touch capacitive controls on the AirPods themselves, to make them more independent from using Siri.

I doubt wireless charging, mainly because the battery pack really serves it's purpose for portability and I don't forsee a purpose for wireless charging of the Airpods, unless the iPhone were to introduce this first.
 

Two Stacks

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I want to see:

8 hour battery up from 5
water/sweat resistant
improved audio
decreased drain when airpods are out of case/not being used for audio
noise cancellation

if I could get what i just typed, i'd pay $200 for them.
 

Perene

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Jun 29, 2015
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I want to see:

8 hour battery up from 5
water/sweat resistant
improved audio
decreased drain when airpods are out of case/not being used for audio
noise cancellation

if I could get what i just typed, i'd pay $200 for them.
My comments (this is from a bug report, which clarified this point "decreased drain when airpods are out of case/not being used for audio"):

I discovered the following (please follow my line of reasoning):

1) If the Airpods are paired to a single device (example: iPAD Pro 9.7, using last iOS version), or my PC (Windows 10-64 bit, using a dongle 4.0 Bluetooth),or the Apple TV 4;

2) This after a few full discharges;

3) The charger case from the Airpods without any defects. Meaning that if I let the Airpods INSIDE THE CASE (paired to a single device) and don't open it for 24 hours, there's no drain, the battery continues at 100%. This after both the case/Airpods were fully charged. So my unit is not one of the defective ones that had this issue.

If I reset the Airpods to factory settings, and pair them to the iPAD or PC;

And if I turn Bluetooth off in ALL MY DEVICES (and don't pair to Apple-TV 4, for this test);

The battery (this is where I am describing the issue for the bug reporter) is wasted COMPLETELY after less than 12 hours. Meaning it keeps trying to connect to previous devices, no matter what. I believe it wastes 4% each hour, or more.

This is a bug that needs to be fixed in a future firmware. I use the last one, 3.5.1. I noticed the Airpods keep trying to connect to the previous device used, even if I hit DISCONNECT in the device settings. They keep broadcasting the battery levels, even if inside my drawer, from a short distance.

Bottom line: since there's no ON/OFF switch, this must be a bug from these Airpods. The reason I need to let the Airpods outside the case is to be able to grab them quickly and put them back in my ears, at random moments of the day. This unnecessary waste (despite the fact the charger case is really useful/fast for a few minutes, if we need to recharge them) thwarts those plans.

To compare products, I also have the Apple Pencil.

The Pencil is paired to one iPAD. This iPAD Pro 9.7 never has Bluetooth disabled.

In 24 hours, even I don't use the Pencil for anything, the battery wastes a few %. Not 100 to 0% in a few hours. In other words, "constant monitoring" is "constant use" for the Airpods. This must be a bug, it can't be normal.

Steps to Reproduce:
Just fully charge the Airpods and case (or just the Airpods). Then pair them to a single device. And let the Airpods OUTSIDE the case. Monitor them for at least 12 hours. In 12 hours they are going to be fully depleted. Don't put them in your ears and don't use them AT ALL during this period. Use your own iPAD/device speakers, don't use the Airpods.
Their reply:

"This is an engineering tradeoff. If we were to stop all paging and advertising while the buds are sitting idle on your desk, any time you picked them up and placed them in your ear, we’d take a few seconds to connect. We prioritize the more often seen user situation in which the user leaves the buds out only when they intend to use them relatively soon after."

In other words: if the Airpods didn't waste battery even when not in your ears/being really used, you would have issues trying to connect them quickly, they would not pair with your device in a split second as it happens today.

This is what I understood from this explanation...
 

DeepIn2U

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I just want the 2nd hen AirPods to come in ... Black!

Like this in a unknown designers prototype just after the official announcement years ago.

Many of us have a bit of war hair that no manner of plucking will hide for more than 2 days and white just is too much of a contrast even for very thin hairs - it’s just embarrassing since others would not normally see it.
 

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