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i would say never i think they wanna stick witht he widescreens for now and idk i just don't see that big a difference between 13.3 and 12 and it would not sell well as a macbook pro because of the cost and ppl. wont justify it if there is no 12 inch macbook
back in the day of ibooks there was a 12' ibook and a 12 inch powerbook
this way ppl. had a choice ppl. are going to look at the 12"macbook pro and say why not get a 13.3" macbook so i think never
 
Never, since it can't handle a high end gpu anyway why would they need it when they already have the macbook?

what's the point of having a high end GPU with a 10-12 inch monitor that's at most 1280x800 (WXGA) or 1152x864 (XGA+)? You don't need much power to have a high framerate at that res, it's too small for gaming or graphics-intensive work. Heck, any X3100-based integrated graphics would be more than ample for that, and even the current graphics could easily handle it.

And I think you miss the size point. Macbooks are small, but we're talking ultra-small, optimized to take up as little weight and bag space as possible. We're talking ultra-low-voltage processors, with a battery life of 8 hours or more. Macbooks are nice but can't compete in that arena. 13-inch widescreen is not really all that small.
 
does intel have any, or have any plans for an "ultra-low-voltage" processor?

No.

what's the point of having a high end GPU with a 10-12 inch monitor that's at most 1280x800 (WXGA) or 1152x864 (XGA+)? You don't need much power to have a high framerate at that res,

no, you dont need that much video MEMORY you still need a high end card/chip if you're going to do any kind of gaming or graphic intensive work...see macbook

the macbook has a small 13" screen, go try and play games on it then tell us how a small screen dosent need a high-end chip
 
Among other considerations, Apple wants to differentiate its products from one another. A small MBP has to have ways to do that. I think the magic ticket that makes this possible is screen resolution.

The high-res option on the 17" MBP is a sign of things to come. Apple could offer a high res 12" laptop, making it suitable for photo and film pros, that could justify the cost premium relative to the macbook.

IF, that is, a high res 12" screen could be usable. (not tiny tiny fonts) For that, I think we need the resolution independence that is supposedly coming with Leopard.

So with that, I think that if a small MBP is coming, it will launch with Leopard, or shortly thereafter, at MWSF '08.

Of course, I have no idea if high res 12" screens exist, or if res-independence will happen for real with Leopard.
 
so where have any of you seen anything having to do with this so called resolution independence in leopard?

ive never heard anything about it, and i sure havent seen a way to use in the the current leopard beta...
 
I just don't think the 12 inch PowerBook will be re-incarnated in the form of a MacBook Pro.

I think the MacBook replaced it.

I'd bank on an ultra-portable Mac, later this year, maybe next year.

The ultraportable Mac is already out. It's called iPhone;)
 
Nobody wants a 12" or 13.3" version of the Macbook Pro more than I, but I suspect it won't happen. Apple is selling unprecidented numbers of their laptops and I think they're figuring out the value of limiting the number of portables they offer.

13.3" MBP is not going to happen I don't think. If you compare the 15" to the 13.3" MB, it's not much bigger, making the extra effort to squeeze it into a 13.3" shell seem hardly worth it. And as for the 12" ultraportable, I think that could happen, but I don't think it will be a MBP. My guess is that Apple's "ultraportable" will have integrated graphics like the Macbook, if it shows up at all.

(my 2¢)
 
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