Eh, it's a micro ATX board. I don't think it's really what's being talked about here, especially with only 3 PCI Express 1x slots.
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Eh, it's a micro ATX board. I don't think it's really what's being talked about here, especially with only 3 PCI Express 1x slots.
There are ATX LGA1150 boards also on that list...
Look, I get that you were trying to make a point, but there is no use for you to deny that list...
Here is one with 3x Pcie16x slot:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dz87klt-75k.html
But they were familiar with it - they'd been building Apple OSX for Intel since the NeXT days. The developer's preview Intel machine was basically an off-the-shelf Pentium 4 system. Apple was also shipping laptops with Intel chips during some of the time that the Mac Pro was being developed.
Of course Intel engineering talent helped Apple with the transition - that was publicly announced. You make it sound like Intel did all the work, while Apple engineers played video games.
I suspect that it was more of a team effort.
Clearly a subjective opinion. Other workstations were smaller, and larger. Some had more PCIe slots, some fewer. Some held more disks, some fewer. Some supported multiple high end GPUs,....
"Best" depends on one's needs.
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The Pentium 4 boxes were an entirely different beast. They were retail boards, strapped in to an empty G5 case. They had no video cards, they had no audio, and absolutely nothing in them was custom designed. I don't think anything that went in to the developer boxes went in to the Mac Pro, besides the evolution of the case.
Which Intel likely helped with too.
Of course Intel engineering talent helped Apple with the transition - that was publicly announced. You make it sound like Intel did all the work, while Apple engineers played video games.
I suspect that it was more of a team effort.
No, what I'm saying is I don't think a lot of the PowerPC team's jobs survived the transition.
Did they play video games after that? I have no idea.
Not many people on the PowerPC team had skill sets that would translate to x86. A lot of them were employed to do all the custom design a PowerPC machine would entail. That's work Intel already did for many of their OEMs.
Sure, but as far as trouble free, reliable operation...
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And now trying buying one retail...
Intel already announced themselves they were discontinuing boards for consumers. I linked to the press release earlier in the thread.
No, what I'm saying is I don't think a lot of the PowerPC team's jobs survived the transition.
Agree for those who were making custom silicon glue logic for the PPC - since Intel and others have glue logic available off-the-shelf (like the PLX PCIe switch feeding the T-Bolt controllers).
But the mechanical engineering, thermal engineering, power engineering, circuit board engineering would be about the same. The ISA doesn't affect that stuff. Heat is heat, amps are amps, ...
And now trying buying one retail...
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