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where apple really messed up with the intel switch
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Honestly I feel like even if MS got 4 year head start on the intel switch, they'd still be working on it. Not because of the whole Vista thing, but just because MS seems lazy and less willing to help... (just a vibe I get though).LoveMacMini said:
Like when I was watching the Keynote this year and the MS lady came out and said Office will be coming soon or whatever... She seemed to have a look on her face, or a hidden message in her words like, Dream on Mac guys... its gonna be a while.
At least with windows there is K++ codecs which pretty much add all format support you need and gives you a great alternative to the crappy bug ridden real player(too bad there isn't mac alternative to real player).
poppe said:
ummm duh lol
think about it as if you owned microsoft. would you spend your company resources making office for a platform that owns 95+% of the market share, which means you'll make a boat load of cash the day it's released. Or spend your time rushing to get the Mac version out to sell to that market share which falls into the catagory of statistical error.
dpaanlka said:
because MS got their ass handed to them in the 90's for thowing IE onto the OS.
When you get Win XP it comes with nothing because that's how much people are scared of a monopoly.
Mac's can throw in whatever they want, hell iLife and Mail come in with every single new Mac. do you see developers even trying to build their own mail or iphoto app? no, because even if they had the resources to do it, apple has a monopoly on that software.
and as for the "everything working out of the box" on a mac, without VLC the mac platform would be retarded for multimedia playback.
Another poster said it best, there are codec packs, as in a simple file you double click, and it installs these things called codecs, similar to quicktime components, that let you play every file in exsistance.
So now the entire system knows what a divx file is, an xvid, a real, an m2v files, MOV file, anything.
With a Mac forget about it.
Look how many word processors are out now for the Mac! I guarentee you that if Apple wanted to bundle in iWork with every new Mac then those people would stop writing their own version since people want to use what's built in.
It isn't like Microsoft is stupid, they can make everything work out of the box, so can linux, there are legal problems however that stop this from happening.
Erm, DivX is not MPEG 4, it's DivX. It can be paired with any audio codec (Vorbis, AC-3, etc.) in a container (AVI, MKV, OGM).Yvan256 said:
[edit] this thread makes my brain hurt. I got off on a huge thread jack on the divx/h264 comment and when I went to clean it up.... I just erased my point so I will summarise:
What does this have to do with the switch to intel? (and following your codec suggestion would be a mess - not everyone has a fast pipe and a high end computer)
What does this have to do with the switch to intel? (and following your codec suggestion would be a mess - not everyone has a fast pipe and a high end computer)
LoveMacMini said:
what do you think they did. WWDC 2005... APPLE SAID June 2006 for the first Intels. It's just Apple surprised them at Macworld
[edit] Also, Microsoft and Adobe have made NEW versions of their software, so you ?have to wait longer for it. They said they wouldnt release a Universal update for current apps. Only NEW software would be Universal.
Think about that
But this is why it is called a Transition. They don't happen immediately and a number of people who have bought Intel Macs have had to understand at one point or another that Apple is going through a Transition.rxl125 said:
It will all get sorted soon enough, and everything will be great a majority of it already does. But until the Transition is complete you will have the occasional incompatibility.
And I fail to see the reasoning that Apple has really messed up because 3rd party Internet plug-ins aren't Universal yet. Apple can only help developers get Universal they can't do it for them.
poppe said:
Make Quicktime your default program. WM isn't supported on all platforms. It also handicaps itself with it's buffering waiting all the time. I have seen Quicktime allow you to jump to any part of the movie on a web page without any delays or downloading.
That is not really the point !
Maybe a little off topic, but a Dual Core Mac Mini or iMac beats the pants off all but the fastest G5 based machines, I am a professional and use these machines, I agree that the "i" based machines, iBook, iMac etc were designed primarily as consumer based devices, but they are more than usable as pro level machines for most purposes !!!!
My 10 pence worth !
rxl125 said:
Maybe a little off topic, but a Dual Core Mac Mini or iMac beats the pants off all but the fastest G5 based machines, I am a professional and use these machines, I agree that the "i" based machines, iBook, iMac etc were designed primarily as consumer based devices, but they are more than usable as pro level machines for most purposes !!!!
My 10 pence worth !
rxl125 said:
poppe said:
QuickTime Player is not intended to be a media management application. That's what iTunes is. I don't understand what the confusion is? When you open Windows Media Player on a PC, it's the same thing!
If you don't want it to open iTunes, set your movies to open in the QuickTime player. You don't even have such an option with Windows Media Player.
The QuickTime format itself is used more by video production studios than Windows Media. The only reason you see more Windows Media Player videos on the internet is because more people have PCs.