iPhone 17 Pro Max Where are my dented or scuffed 17 pro/pro Max peeps at?

[Allen_Wentz]

They are ugly phones to begin with.

The pros aren’t beautiful phones. It cheap looking. Ugly glass square in the back with an oversized camera bump. The are horrible. A case so the best thing for it. Cover it up.

I strongly disagree and consider the iPhone 17 PM silver to be very good visual design. And after using it for a while now I find it substantially more pleasant to hold and use than the [excellent] 16 PM was.

Let me guess. You say "Cover it up" because you do not own an iPhone Pro. I have owned all of them and the 17 Pros are the best yet, even though the 16 Pros have a more elegant design to look at.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Unfortunately my new phone slipped out of my pocket getting out of my car and dented. This new aluminum is extremely soft. All good just a battle scar.

A minor ding easily ignored does not mean that these phones are not hella durable, because they are. Everyone whining about durability should look up the word ductile.

 

[whattodo11]

A minor ding easily ignored does not mean that these phones are not hella durable, because they are. Everyone whining about durability should look up the word ductile.

Who's whining?

 

[whattodo11]

Plastic can still scuff and accrue damage. They’re probably wanting Apple to release a phone with an outer shell made of rubber/silicone.

You have ananswer for everything. You should work for Apple

 

[Parowdy]

Ya um its definitely a dent lol. But good try

Well. After asking ChatGPT how far you can „stretch“ the dictionary definition of a dent, I give you that it’s an indentation of the material with a light chip.
For a dent by the book the material would have to be flat, but it’s pointless arguing about these simple details.
It’s a dent, the aluminium is compressed, only a small part is missing.

The rest of my comment still holds true though. There was absolutely no need to react the way you did.

 

[Andeddu]

You have ananswer for everything. You should work for Apple

Honestly, it’s just common sense. Whether you go for a Samsung, Apple, Huawei, Google; whatever the brand, drop it hard enough and it’ll take damage. No one’s invented an indestructible metal yet, so expecting a phone to be invincible is wishful thinking.

That's why I use a case and screen protector.

 

[Parowdy]

It wouldn't make sense if it were made out of durable material, like what the cases we put on them are made out of. Why can't we just make the thing like it's meant to be held and used by a human being?

Yes. Let’s replace the structurally important frame with soft plastic.
That will improve durability. Definitely.

 

[iTom501]

I don't really use cases, the phone just feels much better to hold without one and I've got apple care, so when it falls enough times it eventually cracks and I get a new one... The first ding is always the worst but after a day you forger about it and freedom of not caring after the first ding is just so much more worth it compared to holding the phone in plastic (to me)

 

[whattodo11]

Well. After asking ChatGPT how far you can „stretch“ the dictionary definition of a dent, I give you that it’s an indentation of the material with a light chip.
For a dent by the book the material would have to be flat, but it’s pointless arguing about these simple details.
It’s a dent, the aluminium is compressed, only a small part is missing.

The rest of my comment still holds true though. There was absolutely no need to react the way you did.

Sir, yes sir!

 

[wgaller]

A lot.

Why don’t you get one of those silly lanyards Apple sells?

 

[GioGiusi]

Cases are made of plastic. So a plastic phone?

*shrug* you tell? Why does a phone fare better with a $15 case from Amazon then with the "premium materials" that its built with?

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Who's whining?

My post was not meant to refer to any specific whiner. Just a generic response to those that do whine about it.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Honestly, it’s just common sense. Whether you go for a Samsung, Apple, Huawei, Google; whatever the brand, drop it hard enough and it’ll take damage. No one’s invented an indestructible metal yet, so expecting a phone to be invincible is wishful thinking.

That's why I use a case and screen protector.

iPhone Pros are not invincible, but IMO and experience they tolerate rough daily usage without needing "a case and screen protector." Using "a case and screen protector" is like putting plastic covers on your furniture, or not. It is just a choice we all make.

 

[whattodo11]

Why don’t you get one of those silly lanyards Apple sells?

I thought about it but that seems silly.

 

[Andeddu]

iPhone Pros are not invincible, but IMO and experience they tolerate rough daily usage without needing "a case and screen protector." Using "a case and screen protector" is like putting plastic covers on your furniture, or not. It is just a choice we all make.

It ultimately comes down to personal preference. I like to keep my phones in pristine condition rather than having them look like crap after only a short time, as in the OP’s example. I don’t sell my devices; instead, I keep them as secondary units (WiFi only media devices) once they’re replaced as my primary phone.

 

[MrGimper]

I would love to see an Air-style bumper for the Pro

Always wanted a bumper since the iPhone 4 one.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

*shrug* you tell? Why does a phone fare better with a $15 case from Amazon then with the "premium materials" that its built with?

In the old iPhone days cases got destructed and replaced every few months. Since the iPhone Pros have been available I find that cases are not needed and simply uglify an iPhone Pro.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

It ultimately comes down to personal preference. I like to keep my phones in pristine condition rather than having them look like crap after only a short time, as in the OP’s example. I don’t sell my devices; instead, I keep them as secondary units (WiFi only media devices) once they’re replaced as my primary phone.

We agree "It ultimately comes down to personal preference." But my caseless iPhone Pros worked hard do not "look like crap after only a short time." The OP's ding is just a ding. I might not even notice it on my silver iPPM. Choosing an anodized color does mean that a substantial ding will show the underlying plain aluminum color.

Like you said, "It ultimately comes down to personal preference" but for the life of me I cannot understand what thrills people about keeping their "phones in pristine condition" hidden behind bulky ugly cases and performance-degrading screen protectors.

 

[Parowdy]

Why don’t you get one of those silly lanyards Apple sells?

You answered your own question.
But a case, at least a thin one to prevent dents like these, would be appropriate.

 

[teh_hunterer]

Ultimately, this comes down to user error. Aluminium itself isn’t the issue, it’s a perfectly sound material.

Or you could just admit the aluminium phones are significantly more susceptible to visible wear and tear than the stainless steel and titanium phones.

It’s not like aluminium phones are automatically bad, but we don’t have to deny reality either.

 

[NotApplicable]

You answered your own question.
But a case, at least a thin one to prevent dents like these, would be appropriate.

As exhibited multiple times, a thin case won’t help prevent deformation of the aluminum very well. You’ll need a thicker, more padded case to accomplish that.

 

[the future]

And now we're redefining the term "damage"?

It‘s you who‘s trying (and failing) to do that.

A lot of people have tried to explain to you that the aluminum unibody will very, very probably be more durable than the glass sandwich we had before in the real sense of durable, meaning the phone will still work. You‘re just super hung up on how the phone looks.

 

[Boeingfan]

Exactly!
I remember I dropped my Xr just a week into buying it, also had it without a case. This phone was so slippery and aluminium like the 17 pro. Of course it dented on the first drop.
Once I had the battle scar though, no more pressure to keep it pretty.

Then I dropped it again a few days later and bought a case 😆

I can relate to what you're talking about, that sense of relief trying desperately to keep it pristine; I did the same with a new car in 2012, and it stressed me out, then one day I saw it had a shopping trolley dent (dint?) and I was so relieved because the pressure was off hahaha.

 

[wgaller]

You answered your own question.
But a case, at least a thin one to prevent dents like these, would be appropriate.

I was being sarcastic trying to point out the ridiculousness of this entire thread. It’s like I bought a new BMW and drove into a brick wall, now it’s dented.

 

[teh_hunterer]

It‘s you who‘s trying (and failing) to do that.

A lot of people have tried to explain to you that the aluminum unibody will very, very probably be more durable than the glass sandwich we had before in the real sense of durable, meaning the phone will still work. You‘re just super hung up on how the phone looks.

Italicise as many words as you like, the fact remains that aluminium as a material is less durable than titanium and stainless steel, and will result in these new phones showing wear and tear much more easily and much sooner than the previous Pro phones.

Now that Apple released aluminium phones, you're clearly just moving the goalposts from being reasonably resistant to wear and tear, to purely just whether the phone works or not.

If you want to make the point that an outer shell that breaks apart more easily might result in less impact going into the glass, at least that's an honest argument. I don't think it's a good design anyway because the previous stainless steel and titanium phones were still fine in that aspect, and the glass is stronger this year anyway, but I get why you would make that point.

But when you start moving goalposts and redefining words that just makes me laugh.