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dacreativeguy

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Right buy "hiding" behind clothing is the mark of a scared person. If one suggested a guy was hiding behind clothes it would be emasculating. I don't recall anyone saying Browett as "hiding," but rather he wasn't the right person for the job. The OP is frustrated about availability but I don't see any comments suggesting other execs are in hiding. Why single out AA?

Again, OP's post wasn't about anything that has to do with AA's actual responsibilities.

If you are going to lecture on political correctness, sexism, or anything else, please remove your offensive, demeaning avatar.
 

Chupa Chupa

macrumors G5
Jul 16, 2002
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If you are going to lecture on political correctness, sexism, or anything else, please remove your offensive, demeaning avatar.

Chief Nokahoma is not demeaning except to the ultra senstive PC crowd. He's a hero to me and plenty other Braves fans, and love his laugh. I hold him in the highest esteem which is why I'm proud to have him as my avatar. Very different from those talking about AA, demeaning her for things she isn't responsible for, not saluting her.

Even the real life Chief Nokahoma, a member of the Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians likes the Chief. (http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/6743/chief-noc-a-homa-still-dancing).
 

shandyman

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Apr 24, 2010
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Where is Angela?

But how is this sexism though? Nobody said "it's Angela's fault because she's a woman" .... Even if it was a guy in charge people would be blaming HIM, people want their watches (including myself) and since we don't have a clear answer to why is everything delayed we're just looking to blame someone but again, nobody is blaming Angela because she's a woman


Where did I say it was sexism? My post was pointing out that she was the wrong person to blame as she is in charge of retail, not the supply chain.

Don't get why you quoted me and then posted about something I wasn't discussing...
 

BeyondtheTech

macrumors 68020
Jun 20, 2007
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...and since we don't have a clear answer to why is everything delayed...

No clear answer? I thought it was pretty straightforward:
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Smileyboy

macrumors 65816
Aug 6, 2008
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No one brought up sexism until you did. Her updates were geared towards Apple employees. She is not to blame for the failure of this launch, as she doesn't control the supply chain. If you want to blame someone, blame Jeff Williams or TC.


Yep!
 

ZebraDude

macrumors 65816
Sep 7, 2014
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We haven't heard from the new retail expert since a while?
Didn't she say she is going to give employees a weekly update on the status of the watch?

Is she hiding behind her Burberry bags and coats?
Or did she get shipped to China to assemble the watches?

Questions questions!

Has Angela earned her record compensation package what are your feelings?

It has been reported that Angela has a larger compensation package for 2014 than CEO Tim Cook.

:apple:
 

Mac 128

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Apr 16, 2015
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We haven't heard from the new retail expert since a while?
Didn't she say she is going to give employees a weekly update on the status of the watch?

Is she hiding behind her Burberry bags and coats?
Or did she get shipped to China to assemble the watches?

Questions questions!

She's touring all the boutique merchant partners Apple got into bed with on this launch, personally delivering the pallets of watches that continue to be sold to walk-in customers fortunate enough to live near one of these few elite boutiques around the world.

LA, Paris, London, Milan, Tokyo, China ...

She's really changed how Apple does business, for the better. Watches are selling for more than double their retail prices on eBay purchased from these stores. We're really fortunate to have her to guide us into these new shark infested fashion business waters.
 

shandyman

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Watches are selling for more than double their retail prices on eBay purchased from these stores.


That's nothing new to Angela, every launch there's new devices going for double on eBay. Actually, there's less this time round, thanks to online orders and max order of 2 per household.
 

aguyinokc

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Apr 23, 2015
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But how is this sexism though? Nobody said "it's Angela's fault because she's a woman" .... Even if it was a guy in charge people would be blaming HIM, people want their watches (including myself) and since we don't have a clear answer to why is everything delayed we're just looking to blame someone but again, nobody is blaming Angela because she's a woman

LOL, Angela A is being blamed for exactly this reason. Otherwise you morons would be blaming the supply chain guys, or the software group for not getting their stuff done. It is easy to just blame women for stuff, while you give men the benefit of the doubt.
 

powerslave65

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Mar 21, 2011
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She's touring all the boutique merchant partners Apple got into bed with on this launch, personally delivering the pallets of watches that continue to be sold to walk-in customers fortunate enough to live near one of these few elite boutiques around the world.

LA, Paris, London, Milan, Tokyo, China ...

She's really changed how Apple does business, for the better. Watches are selling for more than double their retail prices on eBay purchased from these stores. We're really fortunate to have her to guide us into these new shark infested fashion business waters.

Fashion? Sharks? More like addicts, narcissists and desperation.
 

bradl

macrumors 603
Jun 16, 2008
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She's touring all the boutique merchant partners Apple got into bed with on this launch, personally delivering the pallets of watches that continue to be sold to walk-in customers fortunate enough to live near one of these few elite boutiques around the world.

LA, Paris, London, Milan, Tokyo, China ...

New York, London, Paris, Munich...
Everyone talk about pop muzik

Sorry.. digressed back to the 80s. Carry on! :p

BL.
 

5105973

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Sep 11, 2014
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She's touring all the boutique merchant partners Apple got into bed with on this launch, personally delivering the pallets of watches that continue to be sold to walk-in customers fortunate enough to live near one of these few elite boutiques around the world.

LA, Paris, London, Milan, Tokyo, China ...

She's really changed how Apple does business, for the better. Watches are selling for more than double their retail prices on eBay purchased from these stores. We're really fortunate to have her to guide us into these new shark infested fashion business waters.
I do sense the sarcasm, don't worry.

But...here's an alternate take on it:

If she is doing all of that, as much as it causes me to feel flares of anti-establishment hate, I think it may be necessary to help Apple Watches gain some traction where they could be shut out. And in turn this could trickle down to making acceptance of this rather polarizing product easier for the rest of us.

For example, there is a thread on this forum where a member questions whether or not it's okay to wear the Apple Watch in a very formal somewhat snooty business setting where all the players accept only the biggest of the big name classic watches. Most of the answers have not been encouraging. The old guard is entrenched in their prejudices, apparently.

There's another thread asking if it's okay to wear this watch to a formal event such as a wedding.

If Angela succeeds in creating a strong image and presence for Apple Watch in the most exclusive upscale venues, that could go a long way to breaking down the barriers to acceptance of the Apple Watch in board rooms and at weddings and other places and situations that previously only welcomed Rolex and such.

If you leave the barely friendly atmosphere of this pro-Apple environment (where Apple fans still register strong resistance to this product concept) you will see comments and attitudes that make you realize this woman and her peers in marketing have a real battle on their hands to gain traction for the Apple Watch in the world at large.

If she is making inroads into creating a strong retail presence in China at the same time, that's pretty impressive.

It's not easy for me to acknowledge this argument because I really have a visceral antipathy for anything that smacks of exclusivity and elitism. I've got money to afford to splurge on some nice things now, but I come from really humble origins. Starving war refugees, starving survivors of the Great Depression-- all of that family history is in my heart and mind...as is my own upbringing in a dilapidated crime infested neighborhood outside of D.C. --all of that shapes my viewpoint. Burberry is not my world. Not my thing at all. Too rich for my blood to pour $1000 into a sweater when I could be using it for the regional food bank. I splurge only when there's real utility for me in it.

I'm willing to try and see a different side to this new direction Apple seems to be going in not to be an apologist, but to be a pragmatist.
 

Michael Goff

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LOL, Angela A is being blamed for exactly this reason. Otherwise you morons would be blaming the supply chain guys, or the software group for not getting their stuff done. It is easy to just blame women for stuff, while you give men the benefit of the doubt.

So, basically, you have no proof but you clearly want it to be sexism so you can validate your SJW "offended quota".
 

bluecow

macrumors regular
Apr 23, 2015
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Supply issue absolutely 100% not her fault.

But was there an issue with proper communication and updates on a timely basis to the retail store staff? Seemed that with the several videos that she sent to staff in the days before release that there was some pretty broad confusion on how and when sales of the watch were happening even among Apple Store employees. Is that a leadership problem, or maybe just a necessary and obvious result of the supply problems?

I honestly couldn't care less and have absolutely no idea how good at her job she is or will be. Just food for thought.
 
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