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Which mail provider is the best?
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I would advise against Outlook if you are intending to use contacts/calendars. I recently helped someone to migrate to iCloud and it was infuriatingly difficult to get the address book off Outlook, because Microsoft supports Exchange only on iOS whereas on macOS/Windows it supports just IMAP, without CalDav/CardDav to sync and export contacts. I had to download a spreadsheet from the web client and import everything manually, which was painstaking.
Yahoo and iCloud have been the most flexible options, in my mind at least. iCloud is a very decent option and works well with Apple's own apps. It is the only "big" provider that has no ads. Apple also supports standard IMAP and the CalDav/CardDav standards, which gives you much more flexibility. I do not support Gmail for the obvious reason that they are known to data-mine extensively.
Yahoo and iCloud have been the most flexible options, in my mind at least. iCloud is a very decent option and works well with Apple's own apps. It is the only "big" provider that has no ads. Apple also supports standard IMAP and the CalDav/CardDav standards, which gives you much more flexibility. I do not support Gmail for the obvious reason that they are known to data-mine extensively.
I would try icould for personal email, but unfortunately the free 5gb goes fast as it combines with icloud backups and photos, and every OS version backups keep getting bigger. My iphone backup is now 3.8gb and then plus under 100 photos and a few other small things it syncs, using 4.2 of 5gb.
No room there for email really, not even 1gb to use.
Apple really needs to increase that 5 to 10 or 15gb
No room there for email really, not even 1gb to use.
Apple really needs to increase that 5 to 10 or 15gb
Seriously, spring for the 50GB–it’s less than $1/month. That amounts to around .03 cents a day.
That's the kind of attitude that keeps apple from raising the free cloud storage. I'm getting 30 gig free with Microsoft. Not giving apple a dime for something that should be free for what we pay for their products
As Volgin and I stated, you can create an extra iCloud account so you can keep your mail seperat and have 5GB just for mail.
You can do it directly from your phone. Just start to setup an e-mail account in the usual way:
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201320
Choose iCloud and when asked for logon information, click at the bottom to create a new Apple-id.
Why? I dont need more backup storage space for 1 device and dont take photos. Outlook and Gmail both give you PLENTY of space.
There is absolutely nothing compelling/notable that icould email offers over Outlook for personal mail with push.
Bingo. Complacency forcing people to a paid plan will only mean not giving the customer more.
Just like Dropbox lost their huge lead in cloud storage because they became complacent/greedy and refused to up their free account size; still only 2gb. Why bother when Onedrive gives 5, Box 10, and Google Drive give 15gb for free?
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Outlook and Gmail both give you PLENTY of ads in exchange for data-mining your and your recipients’ data.
Microsoft doesn’t give that amount of storage to new users anymore. Last time I checked, it was reduced to 5 GB. Unlike Apple, Microsoft has targeted advertising whereas Apple offers this service truly for free.
Gmail has stopped data mining mails and not sure outlook has ever done it (would be hypocritical with their scroogled campaign).
I use my gmail account and a exchange account with the Outlook app for iOS. Everything syncs smoothly and it pushes everything smoothly.
I would like to chime in here...So I have multiple emails, about 5 that I use on a regular basis, between 2 personal, 2 business and one for junk and online accounts. All of my email accounts are gmail, two are icloud and I barely use those..What do you all recommend? I keep one for forums, one of shopping, one for regular, one for CL.
I used Spark, Outlook, myMail, Gmail, Email App by Easily Do, CloudMagic (now Newton)
I loved CloudMagic the best when it was free but I would not pay $50 a year, thats insane.
I think its good to have all the accounts to be able to view in one place where it can be handy, I like being able to snooze emails. I do want to have push, I love the email app for all that it offers but recently it started having an issue where whenever I deleted tons of emails, it would keep coming back, they haven't fixed it yet.
I do have different folders made in Gmail which I feel like work half ass and I have forgot how to make my life easier in making folders in terms of my work life. For example if I have Important emails coming from certain places, or leads coming in, what do you all recommend? Should I have them going in to a certain folder?
What do you all recommend for push and multiple accounts? In terms of gmail push, which of these apps do not offer push? Because i feel like they all come instantly..details appreciated.
I used Spark, Outlook, myMail, Gmail, Email App by Easily Do, CloudMagic (now Newton)
I loved CloudMagic the best when it was free but I would not pay $50 a year, thats insane.
I think its good to have all the accounts to be able to view in one place where it can be handy, I like being able to snooze emails. I do want to have push, I love the email app for all that it offers but recently it started having an issue where whenever I deleted tons of emails, it would keep coming back, they haven't fixed it yet.
I do have different folders made in Gmail which I feel like work half ass and I have forgot how to make my life easier in making folders in terms of my work life. For example if I have Important emails coming from certain places, or leads coming in, what do you all recommend? Should I have them going in to a certain folder?
What do you all recommend for push and multiple accounts? In terms of gmail push, which of these apps do not offer push? Because i feel like they all come instantly..details appreciated.
Google has just stopped showing you ads that directly pertain to the content of your emails. They haven’t said anything about data mining. Microsoft has been creeping into this area too in recent years since they started offering Windows 10 itself as a free product and focussing more on their online platforms.
In general, Gmail and Outlook are paid for by advertising and the analytical data for this comes from its users. Apple is not providing a service like this, hence these simple comparisons (‘x offers more storage for free!’) are a little dishonest. The iCloud prices are not unreasonable, in fact, they are competitive.
That would be 9. Whole. Dimes. Then 9 more whole pennies.
.99 month to backup several devices and use email without adds or fear of snooping is quite reasonable.
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lol. Please don’t tell me that you’re so naive as to believe that Google isn’t still selling the crap out of every bit of your data that they can.
That’s not what Google said.
“Google has decided to follow suit later this year in our free consumer Gmail service. Consumer Gmail content will not be used or scanned for any ads personalization after this change. ”
https://www.blog.google/products/gm...ail-and-consumer-gmail-to-more-closely-align/
All they’ve said is that they will not scan the email content “for ads personalization” – there is no statement about not scanning your email for machine learning or to gather other data about you. Given that Gmail is one of the largest (and growing) corpora of natural language conversation data in the world, it would be pure lunacy for Google to stop mining this data to make their services better and to learn more about you.
I’m not particularly bothered by this, but let’s not read more into what Google said than they actually did.
I've been tempted by Fastmail, but I really don't want to go through the hassle of changing email accounts.
Mind I ask what is tempting you about it and what you’re currently using?
At first I was avoiding making the change (migrating about a dozen accounts/mailboxes and updating everyone on the process isn’t always fun), but I was so happy with the result afterwards.
I haven't seen any advertising using onedrive , whether it be in windows 10 or the onedrive app on my iOS devices.
I'm using iCloud. What I don't like about it is that it doesn't implement IMAP IDLE—badges and read status don't sync across devices via push. It does work with other email providers, including (as I understand it) Fastmail. Even Gmail gets it in iOS 11!
Unfortunately, I have a different frustration with Mail.app, which is that it doesn't filter out message history, so you have to do a ton of scrolling on a long email chain. (Unless this is another failing of iCloud, but Spark filters it just fine.)
Ahh, I hear you. For years I had been using Exchange Activesync with a work account pushing to multiple devices. When I tried using iCloud (on multiple occasions), it drove me nuts how read status would push. I was so used to say, being at my Mac, dealing with email all morning, and then picking up my iPhone and seeing the lock screen filled with those mail items still. That was a big part of why I was looking for different solutions.
I’m curious about your second comment there - filtering out message history within an email thread. What exactly do you mean by this?
I'm talking about when you reply to an email, the email client automatically quotes the original message. In a long email thread, that message history can get really, really long. Mail.app sometimes filters it, but not always.
Yahoo had that huge security breach. So they are probably out of the question.
I just learned that if you have an iCloud email I did not know that includes your back ups as well.
I also prefer and email address that is easy to delete; however that poses another issue where some companies reuse your email address. I've heard yahoo and outlook both recycle email address names. Gmail doesn't i believe.
Right now Proton mail sounds good but I don't like the fact it doesn't work in the stock mail apps on lets say the Mac or the iPhone. Not a deal breaker but it is a let down. Plus no one have ever even really heard of protonmail which I think may cause a bit of confusion since it isn't very common.
Outside of those listed what other big options out there really.
Gmail is ok but I feel it has more features and stuff that I do not need plus I do not use any of their services.
I also think with Mail.com that doesn't work in native phone apps which require a seperate browser....
I just learned that if you have an iCloud email I did not know that includes your back ups as well.
I also prefer and email address that is easy to delete; however that poses another issue where some companies reuse your email address. I've heard yahoo and outlook both recycle email address names. Gmail doesn't i believe.
Right now Proton mail sounds good but I don't like the fact it doesn't work in the stock mail apps on lets say the Mac or the iPhone. Not a deal breaker but it is a let down. Plus no one have ever even really heard of protonmail which I think may cause a bit of confusion since it isn't very common.
Outside of those listed what other big options out there really.
Gmail is ok but I feel it has more features and stuff that I do not need plus I do not use any of their services.
I also think with Mail.com that doesn't work in native phone apps which require a seperate browser....
